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The Old Chief
07-25-2012, 10:15
Does anyone have any more info on this death? http://rutlandherald.com/article/20120725/THISJUSTIN/707259939

Slo-go'en
07-25-2012, 11:08
62 and "Collapsed while hiking" - could be a heart attack. Sure been a lot of people dying on the trail this year.

Pumba
07-25-2012, 11:20
His Obituary:
http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=Steven-Reed&lc=4234&pid=158732375&mid=5181544&Affiliate=newsobserver&PersonID=158732375&FHID=10726

He was from the area I live in.

Creek Dancer
07-25-2012, 11:58
How very sad.

4shot
07-25-2012, 12:03
How very sad.

very true but otoh what a great way to depart from this world. condolences to his friends and family.

DogPaw
07-25-2012, 12:29
I'm not sure a heart attack qualifies as a great way to die, though the location and present activities certainly were. Good luck to his family, may your mourning be short.

Rain Man
07-25-2012, 16:58
How very sad.


very true but otoh what a great way to depart from this world. condolences to his friends and family.

I gotta agree with 4shot. We ALL have to go. Give it to me hiking the AT rather than slowly, suffering, in some hospital bed, bankrupting my family in the process.

Rain Man

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coach lou
07-25-2012, 17:25
62 and "Collapsed while hiking" - could be a heart attack. Sure been a lot of people dying on the trail this year.

?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????/what he said

Many Moons
07-25-2012, 17:39
Does anyone have any more info on this death? http://rutlandherald.com/article/20120725/THISJUSTIN/707259939

Saw it in paper today also. Wish the family the best. He was a long way from Cary. Hope he had a great hike and hope I live long enough to make it to Vermont.

Miller

hikerboy57
07-25-2012, 17:47
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????/what he said
coach, we're gonna be fine.
really.

coach lou
07-25-2012, 17:51
coach, we're gonna be fine.
really.

I'm just goin' back to my thread of a few weeks ago;)

Hairbear
07-25-2012, 18:17
the man said it all. that was the nicest man ive ever known.could anyone ever say anthing better of you.My deepest regrets to the family and friends for your loss.

mhurley
07-25-2012, 18:25
It is sad, but I completely agree with those who say this is a good way to go. It was quick and he was doing something he loved. I deal with people on a daily basis who have deteriorated to the point where they cannot walk, bathe themselves or even feed themselves. I will tell you that they would have all preferred to exit in this manner. My thoughts go to his family and friends.

Pedaling Fool
07-25-2012, 18:33
His Obituary:
http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=Steven-Reed&lc=4234&pid=158732375&mid=5181544&Affiliate=newsobserver&PersonID=158732375&FHID=10726

He was from the area I live in.He loved the AT; from his obituary:

"In lieu of flowers memorials may be made to the Appalachian Trail Conservancy, PO Box 807, Harpers Ferry, WV, 25425."

atmilkman
07-25-2012, 18:59
My deepest sympathy to this mans family and friends. I envy him a way. I don't know if I'll be able to go out doing something I love.
I agree with the majority. Better to burn out than it is to rust, hey hey, my my.

The Old Chief
07-25-2012, 19:45
From a good old Jimmy Buffet song: "I'd rather die while I'm living, than live while I'm dead."

tdoczi
07-25-2012, 21:28
I'm just goin' back to my thread of a few weeks ago;)

yeah, we should make sure he was actually ON the AT, not down a blue blaze to a spring or shelter or at a road crossing 5 feet off the trail sitting on a log or perhaps a few feet off the trail digging a cat hole. cause if any of those are true then we all know we cant rightfully claim he died "on" the AT.

coach lou
07-25-2012, 21:52
yeah, we should make sure he was actually ON the AT, not down a blue blaze to a spring or shelter or at a road crossing 5 feet off the trail sitting on a log or perhaps a few feet off the trail digging a cat hole. cause if any of those are true then we all know we cant rightfully claim he died "on" the AT.

If we get like a week long rain, I'm going back and count...........that's all I'm sayin'

pafarmboy
07-25-2012, 22:02
I wondered how many posts it would take before someone issued the 'He was doing what he loved....good way to go" bulls**t. Yeah, there are tons worse ways to go, but noone gets on the trail thinking, "Boy, hope I die on my hike cause it'd be a great way to go." Maybe if you have a terminal disease or something, yeah. Otherwise, this guy probably had a wife, kids, loved ones that he'll never get to talk to again. No last "I love you". Nothing. How is that a good thing?

Pumba
07-25-2012, 22:28
, "Boy, hope I die on my hike cause it'd be a great way to go."
Um, yeah...I've had a similar thought, actually. Morbid maybe, but it did come to mind on a recent hike. I certainly didn't wish I died on the trail, but I did think to myself there could be worse places to die.

4shot
07-26-2012, 07:09
I wondered how many posts it would take before someone issued the 'He was doing what he loved....good way to go" bulls**t. Yeah, there are tons worse ways to go, but noone gets on the trail thinking, "Boy, hope I die on my hike cause it'd be a great way to go." Maybe if you have a terminal disease or something, yeah. Otherwise, this guy probably had a wife, kids, loved ones that he'll never get to talk to again. No last "I love you". Nothing. How is that a good thing?


not to be morbid or off topic, it has been my experience that people generally depart in either one of two ways. The sudden, unexpected departure which is terrible for the survivors. if you note, most have offered their prayers and condolences to those in this situation. Then there is the long, slow downhill slide which can be painful and often involves ongoing loss of mental and/or physical abilities. Allows for closure, getting one's affairs in orders, goodbye's, etc. but still involves suffering for all. For many of us, door #1 seems the preferrable of the options if given a choice, which we aren't.

The Old Chief
07-26-2012, 10:12
I wondered how many posts it would take before someone issued the 'He was doing what he loved....good way to go" bulls**t. Yeah, there are tons worse ways to go, but noone gets on the trail thinking, "Boy, hope I die on my hike cause it'd be a great way to go." Maybe if you have a terminal disease or something, yeah. Otherwise, this guy probably had a wife, kids, loved ones that he'll never get to talk to again. No last "I love you". Nothing. How is that a good thing?

If you've read his obit you would see that this man loved hiking the AT. His family appreciated this fact enough to mention it in the obit and to ask for memorials to be sent to the AT. Since he and I are about the same age and from the same area, I can just about guarantee you that one of the last things he did before leaving for the hike was to express his love to his wife and family. I do everytime I leave for one of my little hikes. And if I have cell reception I call home every day to let my wife know I'm okay, to make sure she's okay, and to say "I love you". There are a ton of quick ways to die, might as well be doing something you like when it happens.

Ktaadn
07-26-2012, 11:16
I wondered how many posts it would take before someone issued the 'He was doing what he loved....good way to go" bulls**t. Yeah, there are tons worse ways to go, but noone gets on the trail thinking, "Boy, hope I die on my hike cause it'd be a great way to go." Maybe if you have a terminal disease or something, yeah. Otherwise, this guy probably had a wife, kids, loved ones that he'll never get to talk to again. No last "I love you". Nothing. How is that a good thing?

This is why you have to get in all of the hugs and "I love you's" in whenever you can because you never know when you will get another chance.

max patch
07-26-2012, 11:22
I wondered how many posts it would take before someone issued the 'He was doing what he loved....good way to go" bulls**t. Yeah, there are tons worse ways to go, but noone gets on the trail thinking, "Boy, hope I die on my hike cause it'd be a great way to go." Maybe if you have a terminal disease or something, yeah. Otherwise, this guy probably had a wife, kids, loved ones that he'll never get to talk to again. No last "I love you". Nothing. How is that a good thing?

I agree with you.

If you had a choice would you rather...

1. Die alone, have to have strangers carry your body off the trail, and then have your family go thru the process of having your body transported back home, or

2. Die at home surrounded by family and loved ones and have the opportunity to say your goodbyes.

To me the choice is obvious. I don't understand the romanticism of dying alone that most here profess to prefer.

Llama Legs
07-26-2012, 11:32
From a good old Jimmy Buffet song: "I'd rather die while I'm living, than live while I'm dead."

If I'd known I was gonna live this long, I would've taken better care of myself...JB

Tom Murphy
07-26-2012, 11:40
This is why you have to get in all of the hugs and "I love you's" in whenever you can because you never know when you will get another chance.

SO true.

One of the few postives from losing my mom early in my life is that my family learned to say this to each other whenever possible.

I still end all my phone calls with my Dad, sister, or brothers with an "I love you".

The Old Chief
07-26-2012, 14:34
I agree with you.

If you had a choice would you rather...

1. Die alone, have to have strangers carry your body off the trail, and then have your family go thru the process of having your body transported back home, or

2. Die at home surrounded by family and loved ones and have the opportunity to say your goodbyes.

To me the choice is obvious. I don't understand the romanticism of dying alone that most here profess to prefer.

And just what is your guarantee that your 2nd choice is going to happen if death happens unexpectedly?

jwalton
07-26-2012, 23:21
From a good old Jimmy Buffet song: "I'd rather die while I'm living, than live while I'm dead."

Yeah, but I'm not in any hurry. I love this planet.

jwalton
07-26-2012, 23:26
not to be morbid or off topic, it has been my experience that people generally depart in either one of two ways. The sudden, unexpected departure which is terrible for the survivors. if you note, most have offered their prayers and condolences to those in this situation. Then there is the long, slow downhill slide which can be painful and often involves ongoing loss of mental and/or physical abilities. Allows for closure, getting one's affairs in orders, goodbye's, etc. but still involves suffering for all. For many of us, door #1 seems the preferrable of the options if given a choice, which we aren't.

There's actually a third way: (Typically something like pancreatic cancer) Short, but vicious. You have time to speak to those important to you but you go soon without the years of a downhill slide. This one seems best to me.

ChinMusic
07-26-2012, 23:59
I wondered how many posts it would take before someone issued the 'He was doing what he loved....good way to go" bulls**t. Yeah, there are tons worse ways to go, but noone gets on the trail thinking, "Boy, hope I die on my hike cause it'd be a great way to go." Maybe if you have a terminal disease or something, yeah. Otherwise, this guy probably had a wife, kids, loved ones that he'll never get to talk to again. No last "I love you". Nothing. How is that a good thing?

While I find this harsh, I do agree with the concept.

You didn't hear anyone say, "He died doing what he loved best, watching a Bat Man movie", after the tragedy last week.

Lyle
07-27-2012, 08:01
I agree with you.

If you had a choice would you rather...

1. Die alone, have to have strangers carry your body off the trail, and then have your family go thru the process of having your body transported back home, or

2. Die at home surrounded by family and loved ones and have the opportunity to say your goodbyes.

To me the choice is obvious. I don't understand the romanticism of dying alone that most here profess to prefer.

As a Medic, I can assure you, if you die of a sudden heart attack, it will be very unlikely that you will be surrounded by family and loved ones and have the opportunity to say goodbye. More likely that you will be found lying on the floor, in a puddle of vomit and urine, or jammed between the toilet and tub with your pants down. That's why it's called sudden death, you do not have a chance to gather family and say goodbye.

I would prefer this happen while I was doing something I liked, and in a place I liked. It will be a very painful shock to family no matter where it happens.

mad4scrapping
07-27-2012, 12:43
I would much rather die on the trail, even if alone, rather than die in a nursing home wearing a diaper and surrounded by my family. And I do think about the possibility of dying on each hike. I make sure I say I love you to my family members whenever I leave, whether it is for a hike, to go to work, or to go to the store.

A good friend of mine died a couple of months ago while coaching his daughter's softball game. He was surrounded by his family. He never got the chance to say goodbye even though they were there. He collapsed, became unconscious, and then died. Was it better to have his daughter watch him die like this? The point is there is no good way to die. So, if given the option, I would rather die in the mountains, doing what I love, even if it means dying alone. In a sense, we all die alone anyway.

HikerMom58
07-27-2012, 18:13
We think we have so much control over our own lives but really we don't have much at all, in the end. I'm glad to hear he chose to put his faith in God, his Father. Really he's- "Our Father"... :) I pray for his family, they must miss him so much!! :(

Drybones
07-27-2012, 19:10
I gotta agree with 4shot. We ALL have to go. Give it to me hiking the AT rather than slowly, suffering, in some hospital bed, bankrupting my family in the process.

Rain Man

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Couldn't agree more...let me go with my boots on.

Drybones
07-27-2012, 19:21
I agree with you.

If you had a choice would you rather...

1. Die alone, have to have strangers carry your body off the trail, and then have your family go thru the process of having your body transported back home, or

2. Die at home surrounded by family and loved ones and have the opportunity to say your goodbyes.

To me the choice is obvious. I don't understand the romanticism of dying alone that most here profess to prefer.

To each his own preference, but in the end the Man upstairs makes the decision for you. Everyone believes death is bad... but is it? The baby in the womb probably thinks birth is bad, and, in fact, it is a tramatic experience it would rather forgo. So it is with death, I believe, a birth into a new life. Plan your hike accordingly.