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quilteresq
10-05-2012, 11:40
I'm pretty much going to have to do all my own prep before hand - just got diagnosed with type II diabetes. (I'm trying to imagine the trail without pizza, and it's hard at this point, even though I don't eat much at home. And forget the 1/2 gallon challenge. . . ) At any rate, I decided that I'm going to go with a wider variety of protein than I otherwise would have so I don't get bored. I can make my own jerky, but I get sick of it pretty easily. Looking for freeze dried chicken, ham, and maybe even some sausage for the powdered eggs in the morning. I know I saw a web site where I can get this stuff, but I can't find it.

For the record, I tried low carb spaghetti, and it was awful - I told my husband that I'd rather go with the zuchinni shaved as "pasta" than eat that stuff. I guess stews it will be.

It's challenging enough to learn low carb cooking all at once - figuring out how I'll be able to handle the trail next year is a whole different challenge. Oh well, off to make my birthday low carb cheesecake! Life is not all about deprivation!

grayfox
10-05-2012, 11:53
Go to BePrepared.com Emergency Essentials. Sign up for monthly newsletter. They have pretty good sales on different stuff each month. They have roast beef on this month. FD is expensive but if you need it, you need it. There should be sales on food many places now that summer is winding down. Harmony House foods is another place to get good ingredients for do-it-yourself meals but they only sell tvp for protien. There may be some protien powdered supplements that may work for you as well.

yellowsirocco
10-05-2012, 13:12
I have hiked with a few type 2 diabetics and they love hiking because it gives them the freedom to actually eat a snickers bar guilt free. You may have trouble with your blood sugar right now, but hiking all day every day will bring it down a lot. You might not need to worry so much about low carb trail food. Now once you get into town you might want to watch your carbs and gorge on meat. Even if your doctor says to eat low carb on the trail, most docs can't even comprehend long distance hiking so their opinion isn't really valid. This is a completely different world.

max patch
10-05-2012, 13:54
I plan on buying a lot of the tuna/salmon/whatever that comes in the foil pouches at supermarkets.

Drybones
10-05-2012, 14:59
I've thought about trying to dehydrate canned salmon and use it in paste dishes...anyone tried that?

jeffmeh
10-05-2012, 15:48
I bought a bunch of freeze-dried veggies and herbs from amazon, and the Alpine-Aire freeze-dried beef from Vitacost, and made a bunch of meals up for my son this season. That said, it is by no means inexpensive, and you will likely get tired of it eventually. On a thru-hike, you may be able to beat the type 2 by just avoiding the really high-carb stuff and making some good choices. From personal experience, cutting way back on the carbs, basically eliminating grains and sugar (but I will not give up beer ;), along with vigorous exercise, has made medication unnecessary, but I need to remain vigilant.

Stir Fry
10-05-2012, 15:55
Mountain House has freeze dryed, eggs, sausage, hamburger, chicken, and ham all in #10 cans.
Its the only thing I plan to use a mail drop for. I have been buying a can every couple months. By the time I do thru hike I should have enough for the trip. Most things you can get on the trail but not this. Eggs with a hand full of sausage or ham with cheese is a quick easy meal. Hamburger, and chicken are great additions to Romain,or mac-cheese. Ill even take a hand full of hamburger add some taco sause, and cheese and you have lunch. #10 can is about $44. It lasts me 16-20 meals or about 2 weeks. All the meats rehydrate in about 5 min in a ziplock bag. Tasts better hot but cold works, or just eat by the handfull.

Rasty
10-05-2012, 16:28
Packitgourmet.com
Incredible selection of freeze dried and dehydrated ingredient. Buy the vegetables and meats there. Get starches at the grocery store.

T-Rx
10-05-2012, 16:56
Quilteresq,
I have chosen a low carb diet for several years now for health reasons such as a family history of type 2 diabetes and the overall benefits of cutting processed flour from my diet. Life does not end without carbs. Do some on line research. My wife gets 99% of the credit for learning new recipes and adapting her cooking but I can give you a few suggestions. Try dreamfield brand pasta. It is low carb (5 grams per cup)and taste no different than regular pasta. We buy bread that is low carb (Healthy Life brand) only 5 grams per slice. Take Kraft deli sliced cheese, place it on parchment paper and nuke it in the microwave for about 1 - 1.5 minutes and it makes a great bread substitute (makes great BLTs). We even make low carb pizza using cheese as the crust. We use grated cauliflower as a substitute for potatoes and rice as well. Also, remember that every gram of fiber cancels out a gram of carbohydrate. Just educate yourself on reading labels and learn to do most of your grocery shopping on the perimeter of the store. Go down the interior aisles with caution because that is where the carb laden foods are. Hope this helps if you need more info. I will be glad to help. It is very important to manage your BS or there are many complications that can result. Good luck!

quilteresq
10-05-2012, 17:18
Go to BePrepared.com Emergency Essentials. Sign up for monthly newsletter. They have pretty good sales on different stuff each month.

That was perfect - they had a sale on a variety pack of freeze-dried meats, including sausage! I like my eggs in the morning - with cheese & sausage. I'm going to start dehydrating cheese and more veggies probably starting in December - doing some apples now because they're in season. I can only have about 1/2 an apple at a time, though. . . at the moment. It will be fun to increase my carbs on the trail, but the days of pizza and spaghetti are probably over.

avalonmorn
10-05-2012, 17:24
I have to watch my carbs, so my favorite lunch while hiking is a stick of pepperoni or Hillshire
farms beef stick, eaten with a half-moon chunk of chedder, sliced with my swiss army knife.....it lasts for days with no fridge.

Many Moons
10-05-2012, 18:24
I'm pretty much going to have to do all my own prep before hand - just got diagnosed with type II diabetes. (I'm trying to imagine the trail without pizza, and it's hard at this point, even though I don't eat much at home. And forget the 1/2 gallon challenge. . . ) At any rate, I decided that I'm going to go with a wider variety of protein than I otherwise would have so I don't get bored. I can make my own jerky, but I get sick of it pretty easily. Looking for freeze dried chicken, ham, and maybe even some sausage for the powdered eggs in the morning. I know I saw a web site where I can get this stuff, but I can't find it.

For the record, I tried low carb spaghetti, and it was awful - I told my husband that I'd rather go with the zuchinni shaved as "pasta" than eat that stuff. I guess stews it will be.

It's challenging enough to learn low carb cooking all at once - figuring out how I'll be able to handle the trail next year is a whole different challenge. Oh well, off to make my birthday low carb cheesecake! Life is not all about deprivation!

Yea, I took my own deer meat that I dehydrated, several flavors. This ended up being a great power snack during the day between meals. At large hunting shows they sell all kinds of wild game meat ready to hike with. Hike On!!!

Miller

RodentWhisperer
10-05-2012, 19:45
+1 (no, scratch that; +++1) for packitgourmet.com. Awesome selection, great service.

Rocket Jones
10-05-2012, 19:46
You could also check out Harmony House (http://www.harmonyhousefoods.com/) foods for TVP (textured vegetable protein). Not everyone can handle it, or have digestive issues in larger amounts, but it is a vegetable based protein source. Comes in beef, taco, chicken and ham flavors - maybe others too. I've tried their dehydrated veggies and it's first rate stuff.

Another protein source to consider is quinoa. It's not a grain, but acts like one when you cook it. Cooking can take a while, but you can cook it at home and it dehydrates well. Very versitile as far as flavorings or sauces too. I combine it with powdered milk, brown sugar and almonds and eat it for breakfast on the trail.

Another Kevin
10-06-2012, 22:17
Bring your test kit, and be prepared for frequent medication adjustments. Many Type II's find that the exercuse of long-distance hiking is enough to achieve tight control without any medications or further lifestyle modifications. The blood sugar plummets about the same time the "hiker hunger" sets in.

Driver8
10-07-2012, 02:12
I have hiked with a few type 2 diabetics and they love hiking because it gives them the freedom to actually eat a snickers bar guilt free. You may have trouble with your blood sugar right now, but hiking all day every day will bring it down a lot. You might not need to worry so much about low carb trail food. Now once you get into town you might want to watch your carbs and gorge on meat. Even if your doctor says to eat low carb on the trail, most docs can't even comprehend long distance hiking so their opinion isn't really valid. This is a completely different world.

+1 I am Type II and find that I need high carb stuff on a long day's hike. Especially on steep ups, I will bonk if I don't have the carbs. I have been dx'd diabetic for over a decade, so my condition likely is more advanced than the OP's, i.e. worse. I find that as long as I keep my carbs low on routine days and eat sugary stuff as needed, and drink Gatorade or the like while hiking, I'm OK. One problem that's a bit harder to deal with is the leftover cravings for sugar after that hike. That ain't easy to deal with, have to say.

quilteresq
10-07-2012, 08:16
+1 I am Type II and find that I need high carb stuff on a long day's hike. Especially on steep ups, I will bonk if I don't have the carbs. I have been dx'd diabetic for over a decade, so my condition likely is more advanced than the OP's, i.e. worse. I find that as long as I keep my carbs low on routine days and eat sugary stuff as needed, and drink Gatorade or the like while hiking, I'm OK. One problem that's a bit harder to deal with is the leftover cravings for sugar after that hike. That ain't easy to deal with, have to say.

THAT is what I'm worried about - if I pack too few carbs, I'll be bonking, too many, and I could also be in trouble. I think I'm going go pack mostly low carb, but keep options open so I can add them from trail towns. I will be dehydrating fruit, so it's not like I'm planning on no carbs.

Driver8
10-07-2012, 10:21
THAT is what I'm worried about - if I pack too few carbs, I'll be bonking, too many, and I could also be in trouble. I think I'm going go pack mostly low carb, but keep options open so I can add them from trail towns. I will be dehydrating fruit, so it's not like I'm planning on no carbs.

If you're on a thru-hike, Quilter, I reckon you'll burn off all the carbs on hike days. Just go easy on them on zero and nero days and when in town. If you're already at or near your ideal weight, then you probably will stay diabetic, from what I gather about the condition. If, like me, you have weight to lose, most likely you will on the thru. As I have lost weight this past couple of years of increased exercise and especially a lot of weekend hiking, my diabetes has decreased in severity. If I can manage to get down to my ideal weight, it likely will recede further. I could stand to lose another 50 or 60 lbs.

Driver8
10-07-2012, 10:22
PS: To finish the thought, I gather that recession of diabetes with significant weight loss is very common.

Wise Old Owl
10-07-2012, 12:28
Yea I was just about to suggest dehydrating fruit.

17706

Wise Old Owl
10-07-2012, 12:39
PS: To finish the thought, I gather that recession of diabetes with significant weight loss is very common.

I don't disagree but I have older friends with severe diabetes that in my opinion were not fat or eating the wrong foods.

Driver8
10-07-2012, 13:40
I don't disagree but I have older friends with severe diabetes that in my opinion were not fat or eating the wrong foods.

Oh, it's genetic, and some have it worse than others - I was diabetic by age 30, yea for me! - but the condition's receding with weight loss is pretty common, and nothing better for that than a thru-hike. :)

Cozy
10-07-2012, 17:30
I'm pretty much going to have to do all my own prep before hand - just got diagnosed with type II diabetes. (I'm trying to imagine the trail without pizza, and it's hard at this point, even though I don't eat much at home. And forget the 1/2 gallon challenge. . . ) At any rate, I decided that I'm going to go with a wider variety of protein than I otherwise would have so I don't get bored. I can make my own jerky, but I get sick of it pretty easily. Looking for freeze dried chicken, ham, and maybe even some sausage for the powdered eggs in the morning. I know I saw a web site where I can get this stuff, but I can't find it.

For the record, I tried low carb spaghetti, and it was awful - I told my husband that I'd rather go with the zuchinni shaved as "pasta" than eat that stuff. I guess stews it will be.

It's challenging enough to learn low carb cooking all at once - figuring out how I'll be able to handle the trail next year is a whole different challenge. Oh well, off to make my birthday low carb cheesecake! Life is not all about deprivation!


Target has freezes dried fruit , no sugar added, bananas, peaches, mango, strawberries, berries, AND freezes dried veggies- peas and corn., etc. Look for "Archer Farms Simply Balanced bags. Very light and very good.

Sweetspot
10-07-2012, 19:25
Drybones, you can dehydrate canned Salmon. You dehydrate anything. I dehydrated Watermelon and it makes the best trail candy.

Starchild
10-14-2012, 17:50
I try to low carb wherever I go including backpacking. It is not always not always the lightest choice but is certainly very possible. It's helpful to learn what type of meats and other LC foods can last without refrigeration, such as peperoni, salami and other like types of meat that don't need refrigeration and also eggs as they stay good even under a chicken - as long as you don't break them. You may be packing a few cans in the pack also as that can give you some variety that you just won't be able to find otherwise. Planning is a big part, in town eat big and get a good dinner, as you progress though the days till next resupply food choices will be more and more 'preserved' so enjoy the opportunities for low carb variety when you can.

Wise Old Owl
10-14-2012, 17:58
Drybones, you can dehydrate canned Salmon. You dehydrate anything. I dehydrated Watermelon and it makes the best trail candy.

I explored this and I want to say it was nasty... an 8 ounce can from Alaska Salmon was full of bone like a Sardine can and crunchy... YES you can dehydrate stuff... But I will skip this stuff and stick to smoking my meats. It's not personal - I did give it a try.

atraildreamer
10-15-2012, 10:22
Drybones, you can dehydrate canned Salmon. You dehydrate anything...


Yes you can! I always take this when I hike. :D :banana

quilteresq
11-03-2012, 11:23
I don't disagree but I have older friends with severe diabetes that in my opinion were not fat or eating the wrong foods.

I gained 25 lbs last year when my thyroid meds were messed up - probably the reason I went into diabetes. But I've lost all but 2 lbs since spring, and the diabetes isn't going away. I hope to lose 15-20 more lbs on the trail, but I'm not particularly fat right now. BMI of right around 25.

Wise Old Owl
11-03-2012, 14:33
a lot of my weight problems happened almost immediately after I lost my thyroid. I have been on a low carb / low sodium for years.... I still get an occasional Cheeze Steak!

Back to the answer ... I thought I had answered and somehow it didn't stick....

http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/freezedriedchickencan.aspx#.UJVlgGdGDrw
http://www.packitgourmet.com/Freeze-Dried-Chicken-p256.html

Best prices

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_constraint=0&ic=48_0&Find.x=0&Find.y=0&Find=Find&_ta=1&search_query=freeze%20dried%20chicken&_tt=freeze%20dried%20chicken&rq=true