Hurricane Sandy - Major Storm from VA to ME

[TheYoungOne]

Don't know if there are any more NOBO Thru hikers on the trial, but it looks like a weird hybrid "Snowicane" may be coming to the North East US next week. Just a heads up. Be Careful.

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2012/10/24/weather-journal-storm-could-make-next-week-a-mess/

[WingedMonkey]

Consider it a gift from those of us in Florida tired of hearing about fall hiking and snow camping while it's still Hurricane Season here.
Stock up folks, you can always use the stuff later for hiking.

:p

[Train Wreck]

They called it a "snor-easter-cane", never heard that term before!

[pheldozer]

joe furey from Fox news in CT: "it's now more of a mega-monster hybrid nor'easter."

[gizzy bear]

i just read about this storm....it sounds pretty scary...like even the meterologists are freaked out by it and the possible strength and devastation it could cause....if there are hikers in the HMW unaware of this storm....will there be efforts made to alert these people since they don't have access to weather alerts?? i don't like freak storms...or mean bears...or alligators...or spiders...or Jak.....nevermind...

[Train Wreck]

i just read about this storm....it sounds pretty scary...like even the meterologists are freaked out by it and the possible strength and devastation it could cause....if there are hikers in the HMW unaware of this storm....will there be efforts made to alert these people since they don't have access to weather alerts?? i don't like freak storms...or mean bears...or alligators...or spiders...or Jak.....nevermind...

Alligators help maintain ecological balance in certain forums, I mean environments :D

[squirrel bait]

We got our eyes on Sandy here on the Outer Banks.

[Pedaling Fool]

Don't forget sharks, especially falling-out-of-the-sky-sharks! http://www.livescience.com/24256-shark-falls-from-sky-onto-golf-course.html




"At the San Juan Hills Golf Club in southern California, course hazards include sand traps and falling sharks.

Or they did on Monday (Oct. 22) afternoon, when a 2-foot-long, live leopard shark apparently plummeted from the sky and landed very close to the 12th tee box at the San Juan Capistrano, Calif., course.

The writhing fish out of water was discovered by an on-duty course marshal, who acted fast to save the shark, according to the Capistrano Dispatch (http://thecapistranodispatch.com/view/full_story/20585074/article-Fish-Out-of-the-Water--Live-Shark-Found-at-San-Juan-Hills-Golf-Course?instance=eye_on_sjc)

He loaded it onto his golf cart and drove it back to the clubhouse, where other employees joined the cause to save the wayward animal. After briefly placing the shark in a bucket of homemade salt water, cart attendant Bryan Stizer used his break to drive the shark to the Pacific Ocean, about 4 miles (6.5 kilometers) away.

"I thought he was dead," Stizer told the Dispatch. "When I dropped him into the water, he just lied there for a few seconds, but then he did a twist and shot off into the water."

The shark, which reportedly had two bleeding wounds near its dorsal fin (http://www.livescience.com/18636-shark-fin-soup-neurotoxin.html), is thought to have been dropped over the golf course by a predatory bird, though no one is known to have actually seen the shark fall.

Julianne Steers, chief aquarist at the Ocean Institute near the golf course, told the Dispatch that there are ospreys and peregrine falcons in the area that could have snatched the shark from shallow waters before losing hold of it.

Fish falling from the sky (http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/75-can-it-really-rain-fish.html) is not an unheard-of phenomenon. The downpours of fish and frogs reported throughout history and around the world have been attributed to strong winds that pick up aquatic animals and deposit them many miles inland."

[gizzy bear]

Alligators help maintain ecological balance in certain forums, I mean environments :D

i liek NICE alligators....cuz i am a NICE bear... :D

[gizzy bear]

Don't forget sharks, especially falling-out-of-the-sky-sharks! http://www.livescience.com/24256-shark-falls-from-sky-onto-golf-course.html


i just read that story!!! i like to play golf....island courses always have gators 'round sunbathin...thats bad enough.... jeesh now it's raining sharks ?!?! ;) PS i don't like sharks either....




"At the San Juan Hills Golf Club in southern California, course hazards include sand traps and falling sharks.

Or they did on Monday (Oct. 22) afternoon, when a 2-foot-long, live leopard shark apparently plummeted from the sky and landed very close to the 12th tee box at the San Juan Capistrano, Calif., course.

The writhing fish out of water was discovered by an on-duty course marshal, who acted fast to save the shark, according to the Capistrano Dispatch (http://thecapistranodispatch.com/view/full_story/20585074/article-Fish-Out-of-the-Water--Live-Shark-Found-at-San-Juan-Hills-Golf-Course?instance=eye_on_sjc)

He loaded it onto his golf cart and drove it back to the clubhouse, where other employees joined the cause to save the wayward animal. After briefly placing the shark in a bucket of homemade salt water, cart attendant Bryan Stizer used his break to drive the shark to the Pacific Ocean, about 4 miles (6.5 kilometers) away.

"I thought he was dead," Stizer told the Dispatch. "When I dropped him into the water, he just lied there for a few seconds, but then he did a twist and shot off into the water."

The shark, which reportedly had two bleeding wounds near its dorsal fin (http://www.livescience.com/18636-shark-fin-soup-neurotoxin.html), is thought to have been dropped over the golf course by a predatory bird, though no one is known to have actually seen the shark fall.

Julianne Steers, chief aquarist at the Ocean Institute near the golf course, told the Dispatch that there are ospreys and peregrine falcons in the area that could have snatched the shark from shallow waters before losing hold of it.

Fish falling from the sky (http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/75-can-it-really-rain-fish.html) is not an unheard-of phenomenon. The downpours of fish and frogs reported throughout history and around the world have been attributed to strong winds that pick up aquatic animals and deposit them many miles inland."



i just read that story!!! i like to play golf....island courses always have gators 'round sunbathin...thats bad enough.... jeesh now it's raining sharks ?!?! ;) PS i don't like sharks either.... :p

[Slo-go'en]

We'll see. Often BIG HYPE = little storm.
It does look like it could be a little soggy out there for a few days.

[88BlueGT]

This storm is supposed to be pretty crazy! I'm not looking forward to work possibly shutting down the last few days of the month. I'm in mortgage banking, and this, is VERY bad :/ my life will be a living hell.

Please pass New Jersey... fingers crossed XX

[pheldozer]

http://www.trbimg.com/img-508957e9/turbine/hc-hurricane-sandy-20121024-002/600
On Thursday, Sandy is a Category 2 storm with 105 mph winds and is moving north at 18mph, said Fox Connecticut MeteorologistJoe Furey (http://www.courant.com/topic/weather/joe-furey-PECLB00000061002.topic).
Sandy will head into central and then the northern Bahamas. Then it will continue into the open waters of the Atlantic, east of North Carolina by early Saturday, Furey said.

The National Hurricane Center (http://www.courant.com/topic/disasters-accidents/meteorological-disasters/hurricanes/national-hurricane-center-ORGOV0000100.topic)'s newest path for Sandy, brings the hurricane to the Central New Jersey coast by early Tuesday, Furey said.
"This will have a significance effect on the entire east coast," he said.

The storm will have a significant impact in Connecticut on Monday and early Tuesday, he said.

[Train Wreck]

Don't forget sharks, especially falling-out-of-the-sky-sharks! http://www.livescience.com/24256-shark-falls-from-sky-onto-golf-course.html


"At the San Juan Hills Golf Club in southern California, course hazards include sand traps and falling sharks.

Or they did on Monday (Oct. 22) afternoon, when a 2-foot-long, live leopard shark apparently plummeted from the sky and landed very close to the 12th tee box at the San Juan Capistrano, Calif., course.

The writhing fish out of water was discovered by an on-duty course marshal, who acted fast to save the shark, according to the Capistrano Dispatch (http://thecapistranodispatch.com/view/full_story/20585074/article-Fish-Out-of-the-Water--Live-Shark-Found-at-San-Juan-Hills-Golf-Course?instance=eye_on_sjc)

He loaded it onto his golf cart and drove it back to the clubhouse, where other employees joined the cause to save the wayward animal. After briefly placing the shark in a bucket of homemade salt water, cart attendant Bryan Stizer used his break to drive the shark to the Pacific Ocean, about 4 miles (6.5 kilometers) away.

"I thought he was dead," Stizer told the Dispatch. "When I dropped him into the water, he just lied there for a few seconds, but then he did a twist and shot off into the water."

The shark, which reportedly had two bleeding wounds near its dorsal fin (http://www.livescience.com/18636-shark-fin-soup-neurotoxin.html), is thought to have been dropped over the golf course by a predatory bird, though no one is known to have actually seen the shark fall.

Julianne Steers, chief aquarist at the Ocean Institute near the golf course, told the Dispatch that there are ospreys and peregrine falcons in the area that could have snatched the shark from shallow waters before losing hold of it.

Fish falling from the sky (http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/75-can-it-really-rain-fish.html) is not an unheard-of phenomenon. The downpours of fish and frogs reported throughout history and around the world have been attributed to strong winds that pick up aquatic animals and deposit them many miles inland."

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[atraildreamer]

They called it a "snor-easter-cane", never heard that term before!

Think of a near hurricane with snow...that's a Nor'Easter. :-? The storm we had up here in 1991 was the basis of the movie "The Perfect Storm". Should be quite an event. I doubt we'll see snow in this one, because of the warmer conditions associated with hurricanes, but one of the projected paths is a bulls-eye on Providence, RI, where I live.:eek: Nothing to laugh at! :(

Check out this link to Wikipedia for more information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeaster

[atraildreamer]

i just read that story!!! i like to play golf....island courses always have gators 'round sunbathin...thats bad enough.... jeesh now it's raining sharks ?!?! ;) PS i don't like sharks either.... :p

How do you score it if the beast eats the ball? :confused: Is there a penalty? :confused::mad::D:banana

[Train Wreck]

How do you score it if the beast eats the ball? :confused: Is there a penalty? :confused::mad::D:banana

Mulligan?
.............

[Rocket Jones]

We're going to need a bigger golf cart!

[88BlueGT]

17877

not cool............

[Train Wreck]

Seriously, hope this one just blows over with minimal impact and everyone in the affected areas stays safe. Lived in NC all my life, seem to get at least one hurricane a year, sometimes more :(, you have my good wishes and prayers.

[hikerboy57]

We had a direct hit last year with irene,but little major damage.ill be wary but who knows.

[Odd Man Out]

The page calls it a "Frankenstorm". One model predicts this map for next week. Think it might be a little windy on Mt. Washington?

17879

http://weather.aol.com/2012/10/25/rare-hybrid-storm-predicted-to-slam-northeast/

[gizzy bear]

How do you score it if the beast eats the ball? :confused: Is there a penalty? :confused::mad::D:banana


that's when i activate my secret weapon the 44 and i score fried gator tail for dinner...:rolleyes:

[RCBear]

that's when i activate my secret weapon the 44 and i score fried gator tail for dinner...:rolleyes:

I find the 44 degree loft wedge a very effective club against golf gators

[gizzy bear]

I find the 44 degree loft wedge a very effective club against golf gators

i was talking about REAL golf silleh!! NOT whacky golf...jeesh

[kofritz]

i saw 5 SOBOS around Norwich VT this past weekend. 1 was a flipflop finishing in Waynesboro PA. i hope they get the word. they may be near or south of bennington and maybe able to stop in N. Adams or Greylock. i'm sure there are others including section hikers.

[HikerMom58]

This could be very interesting.... Oh BOY!!! :P

[gizzy bear]

All BS to the side... I hope everyone gets put safely before things get bad!!! If we are on the HMW & the perfect storm is brewing over our heads.... Can some one borrow a crop plane & write us a message?!? Like.. GET OUT!!! ( in my best Eddie Murphy voice)

[HikerMom58]

All BS to the side... I hope everyone gets put safely before things get bad!!! If we are on the HMW & the perfect storm is brewing over our heads.... Can some one borrow a crop plane & write us a message?!? Like.. GET OUT!!! ( in my best Eddie Murphy voice)

Sure enough :)...are u sure you can't find a way to get on WB in the HMW?... you know we'd keep you in the "know".

I pray for everyone's safety during the storm!

[dink]

I am just 30 miles from the ocean (maryland) and we have been warned that we are in for high winds, rain, flooding, etc. I filled up the gas cans and have the generator ready!

[Del Q]

Maybe, weather forecasters are wrong so, so often. We have spent more on bread & milk with threats of storms in Philly than I have on gear.

[Del Q]

OK, well maybe not quite as much $$ but............

they are way off a lot.

[Odd Man Out]

I am just 30 miles from the ocean (maryland) and we have been warned that we are in for high winds, rain, flooding, etc. I filled up the gas cans and have the generator ready!

Good luck dink. That is a great part of the country to live (except maybe this week). Love the eastern shore!

[jakedatc]

Maybe, weather forecasters are wrong so, so often. We have spent more on bread & milk with threats of storms in Philly than I have on gear.

that's what the gulf coast said about Isaac..... right before their houses got washed underneath them :P easier to be careful than be stupid

[peakbagger]

If someone shows up and keeps saying "just give me what I want and I will go away" better watch it:)

An old reference to a Stven King Book

[HikerMom58]

I guess all the news media is calling this storm a 'Freakin Frankinstorm' ....happy halloween & take cover. :eek:

[RCBear]

in this particular case, I don't think it's so much about just the hurricane. having lived in Florida most of my life, we are smart about them but don't get too wound up about it either. the issue here is all of the RARE converging weather systems that will come together around New England to potentially wreak major havoc. coming from someone who is very used to riding these things out, if I was the loved one of someone hiking in that area right now I would be very concerned.

[HikerMom58]

in this particular case, I don't think it's so much about just the hurricane. having lived in Florida most of my life, we are smart about them but don't get too wound up about it either. the issue here is all of the RARE converging weather systems that will come together around New England to potentially wreak major havoc. coming from someone who is very used to riding these things out, if I was the loved one of someone hiking in that area right now I would be very concerned.

I think that's why we are concerned about this storm... our fellow hikers out there, unaware.

[WingedMonkey]

You would have to walk with headphones on and ignore every other hiker you passed or passed you, (even I can't ignore humans that much) to not know this thing might be coming with this much advance notice.

Anyone on the trail by the time it gets to the Northeast is there because they want to be.

Hope they enjoy it safely.

[Gray Blazer]

in this particular case, I don't think it's so much about just the hurricane. having lived in Florida most of my life, we are smart about them but don't get too wound up about it either. the issue here is all of the RARE converging weather systems that will come together around New England to potentially wreak major havoc. coming from someone who is very used to riding these things out, if I was the loved one of someone hiking in that area right now I would be very concerned.

What was the last hurricane to hit Orlando? Donna? Maybe Wilma?

[moytoy]

We're already getting the rain bands on the Space Coast. It's been raining since 4 this morning. If you look at NOAA sat. it's a big system. If it hits a cold front up north it could get nasty real quick. Hikers need to watch out.

[Dobie Swift]

Walking Front Royal to Harpers Ferry starting tomorrow. Looks like I'll get wet.

[88BlueGT]

I think everyone on the trail will be very aware of the storm... pretty hard not too be when its all EVERYONE is talking about on the east coast. Can't escape it.

It's definitely not stopping me from going out Saturday though!

[Don H]

The current National Weather Service show this thing going right over my house!

[Jelf]

Below are interactive map links that should always display the most recent data files that NOAA has posted for Hurricane Sandy. The maps are displayed by the browser app Gmap4. The data files are hosted by http://www.hurricane.com/.

Hurricane SANDY Advisory GIS Forecast Track
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?t=h&q=http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT18/AL1812_TRACK_latest.kmz

Hurricane SANDY Advisory GIS Forecast Cone of Uncertainty
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?t=h&q=http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT18/AL1812_CONE_latest.kmz

Hurricane SANDY Advisory GIS Watches/Warnings
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?t=h&q=http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT18/AL1812_WW_latest.kmz

Hurricane SANDY Best Track Information
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?t=h&q=http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gis/best_track/al182012_best_track.kmz

Hurricane SANDY Tropical Storm (34-kt) Wind Speed Probabilities - 0.1 Degree Multiple Basins
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?q=http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gis/forecast/archive/latest_wsp34knt120hr_tenthDeg.kmz&ll=35.925443,-72.742187&t=h&z=4

Hurricane SANDY Gale (50-kt) Wind Speed Probabilities - 0.1 Degree Multiple Basins
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?q=http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gis/forecast/archive/latest_wsp50knt120hr_tenthDeg.kmz&ll=34.275166,-73.939453&t=h&z=4

Hurricane SANDY Hurricane (64-kt) Wind Speed Probabilities - 0.1 Degree Multiple Basins
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?q=http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gis/forecast/archive/latest_wsp64knt120hr_tenthDeg.kmz&ll=32.543476,-74.480469&t=h&z=4

Gmap4 default map: http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php

Gmap4 homepage: http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.html

Joseph, the Gmap4 guy

[bamboo bob]

Huge Giant Storm !! Look out! Look Out! Run! Run! Run! It may go to western Virginia it may go to Maine! Run! Run! Run! Duck and Cover! Run! Run!................. or it may blow out to sea.

[johnnybgood]

This system has the potential of erasing our yearly rain deficit in a matter of a few hours. Of course with heavy wind the sideways rain may never actually soak the ground.

[Bottom Bunk]

Sandy, oh beautiful Sandy, won't you please slow down just a bit and allow me to sneak outta SNP Sunday morning/afternoon? Thanks in advance!

~Signed by all us hiker trash that don't mind walking in the rain, but really prefer not to drive in it.

[WingedMonkey]

Sandy, oh beautiful Sandy, won't you please slow down just a bit and allow me to sneak outta SNP Sunday morning/afternoon? Thanks in advance!

~Signed by all us hiker trash that don't mind walking in the rain, but really prefer not to drive in it.


Eastern Ohio, southwestern Pennsylvania, western Virginia and the Shenandoah Mountains could get snow.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hmt7rxsB2AX4hysUvFb0WkP7d4Dg?docId=9b2b5e61d aa143a7b0c5afc1598b50f3

Now even the Associated Press thinks there's a place called the Shenandoah Mountains. I guess it could be worse they could have called them "The Shenies"

:p

[Bottom Bunk]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hmt7rxsB2AX4hysUvFb0WkP7d4Dg?docId=9b2b5e61d aa143a7b0c5afc1598b50f3

Now even the Associated Press thinks there's a place called the Shenandoah Mountains. I guess it could be worse they could have called them "The Shenies"

:p

I'd love all my weather forecasts to be in Hikerese - "Almost no chance of seeing rain today, should be a large concentration of day hikers, bringing us up to a higher than average 85% chance of yogi in the greater Shenendoah walking area."

Thanks to all for the storm info btw! Was a bit concerned about going out this weekend, but looks like we'll be able to get home before any real nastiness arrives. Early next week, however, looks to be different - everyone please stay safe!

[traildust]

Cancelled Vermont section hike for next week. Not interested in getting that wet or walking up hill against the tide.

[Pedaling Fool]

Had a tough day on the bike today, thanks to headwinds from Sandy. Being close to the ocean it's normally windy here, averaging between 10-20mph everyday, but today it felt like at least 30 mph, thankfully Sandy isn't closer to the coast. On the plus side I had a 3-mile section with a tail wind and was able to do that section at 30mph, but then took another turn...I'm freakin' whipped...

[RCBear]

in this particular case, I don't think it's so much about just the hurricane. having lived in Florida most of my life, we are smart about them but don't get too wound up about it either. the issue here is all of the RARE converging weather systems that will come together around New England to potentially wreak major havoc. coming from someone who is very used to riding these things out, if I was the loved one of someone hiking in that area right now I would be very concerned.

What was the last hurricane to hit Orlando? Donna? Maybe Wilma?

In 04, we had three hit Otown. Charlie came across downtown as a cat 1 and was very tightly formed. Jean was a large system that hung over us for several days and dumped incredible rains which downed tons of trees because of the added water weight, and I do think Wilma was the third. Also a very large system.

[Mrs Baggins]

Winds of 75 - 120 are forecast. You're going to get more than wet.

[Rocket Jones]

The latest has Sandy sitting over Pennsylvania and New York for a day. This is a huge storm and will dump massive amounts of rain during that time while it barely moves. Add in the full moon/high tides when it comes ashore, and the major problems are going to be flooding, downed trees and loss of electrical power. If it goes as predicted, there may be millions of people without power for days, even weeks.

[WingedMonkey]

If it goes as predicted, there may be millions of people without power for days, even weeks.

And 90% of them will be whining that they never thought it would happen, and that they are out of food and water and whu can't the government do something.

:p

[atraildreamer]

Think of a near hurricane with snow...that's a Nor'Easter. :-? The storm we had up here in 1991 was the basis of the movie "The Perfect Storm". Should be quite an event. I doubt we'll see snow in this one, because of the warmer conditions associated with hurricanes, but one of the projected paths is a bulls-eye on Providence, RI, where I live.:eek: Nothing to laugh at! :(

Check out this link to Wikipedia for more information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeaster

The brunt of the storm is expected to miss RI, but we are still expecting high winds and torrential rains. In the interest of public safety, (to reduce the possibility of flying debris :eek: ), a local congressional candidate has asked all his supporters to remove his campaign signs from their lawns and store them until the storm has passed by. Be interesting to see if other candidates follow suit on this advice. :-?

[wnderer]

Further west in the Appalachian Mountains (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Appalachian+Mountains), all the rain will turn to snow – a lot of snow for this early in the season.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/1026/Hurricane-Sandy-what-to-expect-from-North-Carolina-to-Massachusetts-to-Ohio

[88BlueGT]

I said I wasn't going to let it affect me and my hiking this weekend................................ I lied.

[jakedatc]

Had a tough day on the bike today, thanks to headwinds from Sandy. Being close to the ocean it's normally windy here, averaging between 10-20mph everyday, but today it felt like at least 30 mph, thankfully Sandy isn't closer to the coast. On the plus side I had a 3-mile section with a tail wind and was able to do that section at 30mph, but then took another turn...I'm freakin' whipped...

so you got to do a hill workout without finding a bridge.. good times :)

[Jeff]

Saw on weather.com on Sunday AM they are now predicting the center of the storm to cross the AT near Duncannon, PA on Tuesday. Hope the Doyle is ready!!!

[TheYoungOne]

The page calls it a "Frankenstorm". One model predicts this map for next week. Think it might be a little windy on Mt. Washington?

17879

http://weather.aol.com/2012/10/25/rare-hybrid-storm-predicted-to-slam-northeast/

I definately ain't gonna be a sunny summer day :)


17898

[hikerboy57]

were gonna get slammed here on long island, with flooding expected to be much worse than irene, and that was bad enough.im 1oo yards away from the water and a full moon high tide hits tomorrow at 8:13 am, with storm surge now upped to 6-12 feet. we're screwed.

[johnnybgood]

were gonna get slammed here on long island, with flooding expected to be much worse than irene, and that was bad enough.im 1oo yards away from the water and a full moon high tide hits tomorrow at 8:13 am, with storm surge now upped to 6-12 feet. we're screwed.

Take precautions and evacuate my friend. Remember your furry friends as well.

[Rocket Jones]

were gonna get slammed here on long island, with flooding expected to be much worse than irene, and that was bad enough.im 1oo yards away from the water and a full moon high tide hits tomorrow at 8:13 am, with storm surge now upped to 6-12 feet. we're screwed.

Good thoughts coming your way, and everyone else who's going to get slammed. We're projected to get 3"-6" of rain and wind gusting to 60mph. Bad enough, but not nearly as bad as folks farther north.

I'm tired, but I think we're as ready as we can be.

[Gipsy]

Not sure if there are any stranded hikers near Harpers Ferry. If so, I can harbor 1-2 hikers till Sandy passes. I live in Martinsburg (about 20 miles away). I can come pick you up since I'm off a few days. Please understand that I live in a small 2 bedroom corporate apartment with the wife and 2 dogs. It is nothing fancy but not a roach motel. You can text me at 334-655-1111. Kevin.

[HikerMom58]

were gonna get slammed here on long island, with flooding expected to be much worse than irene, and that was bad enough.im 1oo yards away from the water and a full moon high tide hits tomorrow at 8:13 am, with storm surge now upped to 6-12 feet. we're screwed.

Take care of yourself... we'll be thinking of you.

[HikerMom58]

Not sure if there are any stranded hikers near Harpers Ferry. If so, I can harbor 1-2 hikers till Sandy passes. I live in Martinsburg (about 20 miles away). I can come pick you up since I'm off a few days. Please understand that I live in a small 2 bedroom corporate apartment with the wife and 2 dogs. It is nothing fancy but not a roach motel. You can text me at 334-655-1111. Kevin.

That's really a nice offer, Kevin. I will put up my offer as well- any hikers in need of a place to stay in the Daleville VA area while the storm passes through, you can text me at 540-815-1289. I have plenty of extra space (finished basement room w/ bathroom)- I can come pick you up as well.
Karen

[atraildreamer]

Seriously, hope this one just blows over with minimal impact and everyone in the affected areas stays safe. Lived in NC all my life, seem to get at least one hurricane a year, sometimes more :(, you have my good wishes and prayers.

Up here in Providence, RI, they are preparing to activate the Fox Point Hurricane Barrier (which I can see from my apartment window).

Then they will start pumping the river water past the barrier and into the harbor. This is to prevent the same type of catastrophic flooding that devasted Providence during the 1938 hurricane. The barrier has worked flawlessly every time they have used it. Got to hand it to those US Army Engineers who designed and built it! :clap

Here are shots of the barrier and the pump house, and what happened in 1938 when the city flooded:

[evansprater]

Stuck in Gatlinburg until at last Thursday now. Could think of many many places Id rather be stuck. It's already snowing on top of Clingmans dome!

[dale1627]

I drove from Kingsport, TN to Salem, VA and back again yesterday. Semi's galore hauling generators and a constant stream of elect utility trucks heading north on I-81. I do believe that someone is taking this storm seriously.

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[jakedatc]

Yep, they said on the news that Arkansas was sending Utility crews already.

TrailDreamer.. my friends were loving the surf over in the naragansett area today..

[Papa D]

This is going to suck. I hate it for everybody in its path. We can only hope to get a little lucky and things will not be quite as bad as they say.

[dink]

I live 30 miles from Ocean City MD and the whole inlet parking lot and boardwallk have been under water for a couple of hours already...and the storm is still hours away!!

[Rocket Jones]

13'-15' waves on Maryland's Eastern Shore, and the storm center is still over 400 miles away.

Federal Government in DC is closed tomorrow.

[kayak karl]

Cape May and Wildwood are flooded tonight and hardly any rain YET. full moon is not helping.

[scudder]

I just returned last night from a week trying to do some building in Haiti. One of our teams was building a house on an exposed ridge, and had to hike out after 1/2 their tents collapsed as there was no road to the site. They reported that it was quite difficult staying on their feet in the gusts that they estimated at around 60-70mph. We were based on the coast around 300 miles away from the path of the storm. Our host estimated that we experienced 20-30 inches of rain in a 3 day period. Cosmic joke is that one of the last things we did before being washed off our mountain site was plumbing rain barrels. They are now full! Flying out yesterday, we leapfrogged the storm, and I'm having deja vu all over again as I prepare for the imminent storm stateside. Take this one seriously, especially if you are coastal or in an area prone to flooding. Good luck all.

[Wise Old Owl]

This is going to suck. I hate it for everybody in its path. We can only hope to get a little lucky and things will not be quite as bad as they say.

I hate it too - I am sure this is going to impact a lot of people I feel for others that are not doing the required work.... I am not a prepper but we have plans in place and I am sure we will be OK.

[hikerboy57]

Cape May and Wildwood are flooded tonight and hardly any rain YET. full moon is not helping.
i could use a kayak.tides coming up and the canals are already spilling over. not bad right now but the storms still 550 miles away.on the ocean were seeing 6-8ft waves, expected to double in size during the day tomorrow. they chased the last of the surfers out threatening them with summons if they attempted to go back out.

[WingedMonkey]

We sent this cane north almost three days ago. Winds only got to about 50 mph gusts and two inches of rain.

With the full moon and the long reach of this thing we are still experiencing coastal flooding and record tides and beach erosion today.

Just plain weird.

[hikerboy57]

maybe the mayans were right?earthquake on the west coast, hurricane on the east coast. im keeping a close watch for raining frogs.
i have noticed an unusual amount of red tail hawks out today during the day.didnt see too many other birds, even the seabirds seem to have holed up somewhere.
weird indeed

[Wise Old Owl]

oh stop with the Mayans... please...

[ATBuddy]

Supposed to get 2+ feet of snow in Dolly Sods. Who's going?

[hikerboy57]

oh stop with the Mayans... please...was it the incas?:confused:

[kayak karl]

cape may to barnegat are already reporting outages.

[Sarcasm the elf]

maybe the mayans were right?earthquake on the west coast, hurricane on the east coast. im keeping a close watch for raining frogs.
i have noticed an unusual amount of red tail hawks out today during the day.didnt see too many other birds, even the seabirds seem to have holed up somewhere.
weird indeed

Birds are always fun after a hurricane, my girlfriend's sister is an ornithologist and she loves to go out after a hurricane and see how many tropical species got pushed up to new England by the storm.

[HikerMom58]

17914


Just saw this posted on Facebook from Newfound Gap -GSMNP

[OutdoorsMan]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c101.0.403.403/p403x403/524914_444920238878092_106100867_n.jpg

[Sarcasm the elf]

I intend to ride out this hurricane Gangnam Style!

[Mags]

Consider it a gift from those of us in Florida tired of hearing about fall hiking and snow camping while it's still Hurricane Season here.
Stock up folks, you can always use the stuff later for hiking.

:p

Being serious, makes me realize how much weather is worse on the East Coast vs the West in general (high country can be bad..but that does no actually shut down a major metro area for days, or even weeks on end. :O).

Hurricanes, blizzards and flooding. Yowch...


The wild fires are bad here but are (somewhat) localized. Even the blizzards out here are not as bad as the ones back East IMO.

I worry about friends and family back East.


Hunker down, be safe and try to ride this out friends. I am checking the news out here in CO.....

[Iceaxe]

It was 77 degrees today here in Cali. Our weather is so seriously boring.
I am not kidding and not poking fun.. it is seriously boring having sunshine and blue skies all the time.

What is it they say: "those who know the storm, tire of the calm." something like that.

When I was on the AT it seemed like it rained every other day and more often than not there was lightning.

Here in the peoples republic of Cali the only time we see a flash of lightning is when someone rams his pickup truck into a power pole on the way home from the bar.

Still, we do get earthquakes and sometimes they can be big ones.

I think y'all out there in the East have it way worse with the hurricanes and tornados all the time than we do with the occasional large quake every other decade.

Actually i really miss the rain. Used to actually think we had a lot of rain out here.. until i hiked the AT.

It was quite strange to return on the plane and realize how brown and dry the west really is.

Stay safe out there everybody.

PS. both my sisters and their families live near Doylestown PA and I will be thinking of them and all of you out there during all this.

[Papa D]

I hate it too - I am sure this is going to impact a lot of people I feel for others that are not doing the required work.... I am not a prepper but we have plans in place and I am sure we will be OK.

I can't help being a "prepper" - what my wife refers to as "sports and rec" are the shelves in my basement with backpacking and climbing stuff. What is ALSO there are several military grade boxes with canned food, dehydrated food, about 10 gallons of camping fuel, batteries, headlamps and flashlights, my backpacking stoves, first aid kit, am/fm weather radio, a few bottles of booze, etc. I also have 3 @ 5-gallon carboys of water and about 15 gallons of gasoline in cans. I'm NOT a survivalist type (if the world comes to an end, the world comes to an end) but I am equipped to stay at home for a couple of months or travel a few hundred miles in the Subaru unsupported by others - - I think that's smart and I would guess that most backpackers are pretty much similarly equipped.

[jakedatc]

Yea Mags.. it just drives folks to do funny things.. like Winter NH48... Grid (48k in each month)... 100mph club (for Observatory folks)

enjoy your land of milk and honey :P

[Sarcasm the elf]

Yea Mags.. it just drives folks to do funny things.. like Winter NH48... Grid (48k in each month)... 100mph club (for Observatory folks)

enjoy your land of milk and honey :P

Coors light ain't no milk and honey ;)

[Mags]

Yea Mags.. it just drives folks to do funny things.. like Winter NH48... Grid (48k in each month)... 100mph club (for Observatory folks)

enjoy your land of milk and honey :P

I do! The outdoor oppurtunities are much better here for sure IMO. :)



Being serious...remember, I grew up in RI. Got stuck there in 2005 when Logan was closed down due to too much snow AFTER the blizzard. No where to put all that snow from the runways...

Mom was happy anyway! Also made me realize how bad the weather is where I grew up compared to here. Egads!

ps 48k? 48000' wow..the mtns got bigger since I moved. :-P

re: Coors

To heck with Coors!
http://www.beerdrinkersguidetocolorado.com/breweries.php

In ten minutes walking there is Avery's and in five minutes there is Wild Woods.Even more in 10 minutes biking distance. :)

[Rick500]

Was planning on hitting the AT around Grayson Highlands late in the week... I guess we'll see how it plays out.

[Sarcasm the elf]

Was planning on hitting the AT around Grayson Highlands late in the week... I guess we'll see how it plays out.

Bring raingear. :sun

[Rick500]

Won't have to worry about lack of water anyway. :)

If it's going to be miserable, I'll change destinations.

[kayak karl]

following the center: it hits shore at my ex-wife#1's house, down the road to my son's place, then to delaware shore my place and then to valley forge to see my dad. my sister in in petaluma having conniption fits :)

tied the kayak high to the tree.

they just closed all state parks and camp grounds.

[Mountain Mike]

At least you have an escape plan!

[wornoutboots]

Cancelled tomorrows trip to Roan Mountain > Elk Park, calling up to 12" of snow in the upper elevations & possibly 75 mile an hour winds on the balds starting tonight.

[rich5665]

following the center: it hits shore at my ex-wife#1's house, down the road to my son's place, then to delaware shore my place and then to valley forge to see my dad. my sister in in petaluma having conniption fits :)

tied the kayak high to the tree.

they just closed all state parks and camp grounds.

I'm wishing I didn't leave my canoe in Virginia. I have it chained to my shed down in Chincoteague. Jamesburg has started evacuations in town along Manalapan Lake and were way inland. Be safe KK

[Another Kevin]

In ten minutes walking there is Avery's and in five minutes there is Wild Woods.Even more in 10 minutes biking distance. :)

Has D-Low featured those as "Beer of the Month" yet?

[jakedatc]

I do! The outdoor oppurtunities are much better here for sure IMO. :)



Being serious...remember, I grew up in RI. Got stuck there in 2005 when Logan was closed down due to too much snow AFTER the blizzard. No where to put all that snow from the runways...

Mom was happy anyway! Also made me realize how bad the weather is where I grew up compared to here. Egads!

ps 48k? 48000' wow..the mtns got bigger since I moved. :-P
:)

sorry typo
NH48 x 12 months = grid takes a long time to do.. it's 576 peaks touched. but once you do NH 48, NHHH (hundred highest), NE76?... you gotta start thinking of things to do apparently

personally after i finish NH48 in the spring i'm after Hugh Herr's kids creation Terrifying 25 trails (none are that terrifying but bouldery and steep)

[HikerMom58]

I'm wishing I didn't leave my canoe in Virginia. I have it chained to my shed down in Chincoteague. Jamesburg has started evacuations in town along Manalapan Lake and were way inland. Be safe KK

I love Chincoteague... we were just there around Labor Day. I hope everything stays put...

[squirrel bait]

Just waiting for daylight, but so far no major flooding or damage here on the Outer Banks. Good luck farther north.

[joshuasdad]

6.5 inches of snow on Mount LeConte already at 7 AM (near AT in Smokies). Looks like I may have to reconsider my Thanksgiving hiking plans...

http://www.highonleconte.com/daily-posts.html

[Mags]

Has D-Low featured those as "Beer of the Month" yet?

Quite possibly next month!

[Lauriep]

Shenandoah National Park and Harpers Ferry National Historical Park announced closures yesterday. Below is text from their Facebook pages:

Shenandoah National Park
In anticipation of Hurricane Sandy, the North (mile 0-31.5) and South (mile 65-105) Districts will be closed beginning Sunday night, 10-28-12.
The Central District (mile 31.5-65) will be closing Monday at noon. All facilities will be closed and visitors must leave the park during the closure.
Be safe everyone!
(This same notice is posted on the home page of ups.gov/shen).

Harpers Ferry NHP
Due to the inclement weather, Harpers Ferry National Historical Park is closed until further notice. We will post updated information on the weather and re-opening of the park as we receive it. Stay safe everyone!

Although there are sections of the A.T. that may not yet officially have a closure notice, more closures will likely be announced today. Blowdowns, flying debris, or flooding of small creeks are expected to cause life-threatening hazards that could affect any part of the Trail in Hurricane Sandy's reach.

To be safe, any A.T. hikers still on the Trail should get off now and seek shelter if they haven't already.

Laurie P.
ATC

[Odd Man Out]

The western edge of the cloud cover was directly over my house when I left for work this AM (in west MI).

[peakbagger]

If there is one good thing that comes out of this in Western Maine and Northern NH is this may finally knock down the remaining dead white birches left over from the ice storm of 1998. Walking through the woods these days in the elevation bands most impacted by the ice storm is currently very hazardous with numerous large birches ready to shed large branches with any disturbance. Sometimes just walking by them is enough for them to let loose. As the sustained winds are expected to be from the east this might finally get them on the ground.

For those closer to the storm good luck.

[atraildreamer]

I think everyone on the trail will be very aware of the storm... pretty hard not too be when its all EVERYONE is talking about on the east coast. Can't escape it.

It's definitely not stopping me from going out Saturday though!

If I remember correctly, Dorothy Laker, who thru-hiked the AT 3 times, sat out 2 hurricanes in trail shelters.

[RoyalCannon]

Five of us hikers have a 40mi trip planned from dennis cove to roan mountain nov1-4. Looks like we get to hike in some snow! Cant wait. Can anyone estimate how much snow will be left?

[atraildreamer]

The brunt of the storm is expected to miss RI, but we are still expecting high winds and torrential rains. ...

They closed the Fox Point Hurricane Barrier and activated the pumps at 6:45 am. All schools, and many businesses are closed. All public transportation will be shut down by 12 noon. The winds are gusting up to 40 mph, and the rain is moving sideways! :eek: They expect the worst of the storm from 8 pm tonight through 10 pm Tuesday night.

We are about 300 miles from the center of the storm. I can't begin to imagine what you are going through in the hardest hit areas. :-?

On a lighter note, I was watching Al Roker, the meteorologist, give a report from a wind and rain-swept beach. He was almost blown down! If he hadn't lost all that weight...it might have anchored him a bit better! :D

[atraildreamer]

Yep, they said on the news that Arkansas was sending Utility crews already.

TrailDreamer.. my friends were loving the surf over in the Narragansett area today..

I always thought that some surfers have a death wish, or were they just down at the beach looking at the big waves? I hope they have sense enough to stay away from the water today and tomorrow! BTW, Narragansett, and all of the RI coastline is essentially closed. No one is allowed into those area, only outbound evacuees are allowed on the access roads.

[hikerboy57]

I always thought that some surfers have a death wish! :) I hope they have sense enough to stay out of the water today and tomorrow! BTW, Narragansett, and all of the RI coastline is essentially closed. No one is allowed into those area, only outbound evacuees are allowed on the access roads.

nobody surfing in long beach this morning. they risk a summons if they do

[atraildreamer]

Being serious...remember, I grew up in RI. Got stuck there in 2005 when Logan was closed down due to too much snow AFTER the blizzard. No where to put all that snow from the runways...

They push it off the end of the runways into the ocean. Logan is right next to the harbor. In Providence, that is what they did with the snow after the Blizzard of '78. They dumped it right into the rivers, or down at the shipyard docks, right into the sea.

[dink]

I am 30 miles from ocean city MD here...the pier is damaged, the southern part of town is under water and the storm hasn't even gotten here yet...chincoteague causeway was closed last night and probably won't be reopened until wednesday. thousands are without power too...sheesh, what is it going to be like when the storm gets here tonight!!!

[hikerboy57]

I am 30 miles from ocean city MD here...the pier is damaged, the southern part of town is under water and the storm hasn't even gotten here yet...chincoteague causeway was closed last night and probably won't be reopened until wednesday. thousands are without power too...sheesh, what is it going to be like when the storm gets here tonight!!!
you may have seen the worsts far as storm surge goes as the storm should make landfall north of you, and its east of the strom where the winds and waves are combining with full moon tides, causing "historic flooding"along both the north and south shores of long island, south shore of CT and up the hudson into westchester.
i hope im right and youve seen the worst of the iwnds and the wves, you will get a ridiculaous amount of rain, so i wish you all the best.
stay safe

[Pathfinder1]

Hi...


Here in the lower Catskill Mountains of NY, all schools in this and adjoining counties are closed. From this pee em through tomorrow (Tuesday) pee em rain fall from one to three inches is predicted, as of earlier this ayem.

It's starting to get blustery now. Winds from this pee em to tomorrow pee em are expected to be between 30 to 40, and sustained gusts from 50 to 70.

I put bottles of water in the freezer compartment to freeze and help keep it cold when the power goes out. Same for the fridge. I encourage others to do the same.

Also, if you will be in the storm's path, fill your bath tub with water (even if you're on city water). This can be used for flushing toilets, washing dishes, etc., and even for putting out a fire...!!

Such a rainfall will necessitate emergency evacuations of several local towns and/or individual residents, per personal experience. This would also follow through for residents living along many parts of the nearby Delaware River.

Good luck to all who will be in its path.

[Pathfinder1]

Hi...


Here in the lower Catskill Mountains of NY, all schools in this and adjoining counties are closed. From this pee em through tomorrow (Tuesday) pee em rain fall from one to three inches is predicted, as of earlier this ayem.

It's starting to get blustery now. Winds from this pee em to tomorrow pee em are expected to be between 30 to 40, and sustained gusts from 50 to 70.

I put bottles of water in the freezer compartment to freeze and help keep it cold when the power goes out. Same for the fridge. I encourage others to do the same.

Also, if you will be in the storm's path, fill your bath tub with water (even if you're on city water). This can be used for flushing toilets, washing dishes, etc., and even for putting out a fire...!!

Such a rainfall will necessitate emergency evacuations of several local towns and/or individual residents, per personal experience. This would also follow through for residents living along many parts of the nearby Delaware River.

Good luck to all who will be in its path.

[HikerMom58]

I am 30 miles from ocean city MD here...the pier is damaged, the southern part of town is under water and the storm hasn't even gotten here yet...chincoteague causeway was closed last night and probably won't be reopened until wednesday. thousands are without power too...sheesh, what is it going to be like when the storm gets here tonight!!!

I'm getting loads of flood pics from Chincoteague...it's really bad there... Hope the ponies are on higher ground.

[Pathfinder1]

I'm getting loads of flood pics from Chincoteague...it's really bad there... Hope the ponies are on higher ground.



Hi...


I've been there. I know what you mean.

[jakedatc]

I always thought that some surfers have a death wish, or were they just down at the beach looking at the big waves? I hope they have sense enough to stay away from the water today and tomorrow! BTW, Narragansett, and all of the RI coastline is essentially closed. No one is allowed into those area, only outbound evacuees are allowed on the access roads.

They were done by early afternoon yesterday.. which i dont' think is that bad.. build up to storms i think is better for the surf than the actual storm. i bet it is just choppy and nasty out there today

[Mags]

Interesting google map:

http://google.org/crisismap/sandy-2012

[Wise Old Owl]

nice find Mags - thanks

[Odd Man Out]

From Mt Washington

"Hurricane Sandy will move inland today around the Delmarva Peninsula, then slowly shift northeast over the remainder of the forecast period. As it moves in today and tonight, the pressure gradient will become very steep causing winds to ramp up to 60 mph at the base of the mountains and surrounding valleys, with summits likely seeing several gusts well over 100 mph; so, a very windy day from the top to the bottom of the mountains. A very moist flow around this system will keep summits in dense fog and bring drizzle followed by rain that will become heavy at times. There is even a chance for some instability with this system to generate a thunderstorm or two. Thunderstorms may bring hail, sudden bursts of rain, and strong, sudden downdrafts."

[Rolo]

Just got off the trail at Wind Gap. Gotta get my tequila and huddle down for a couple days!

[Dobie Swift]

Was out this weekend for a Front Royal to Harpers Ferry section hike. Made it into Bears Den hostel at around 10:30 this morning just in time to get in out of the worst of it. We made the decision to bag the rest of the hike until better weather. There were two southbound thrus who came in right after us. They were glad to be in out of it.

[DaSchwartz]

Could be a real mess for SOBO, hopefully most of them are south enough to avoid the brunt of this.

[Lauriep]

HURRICANE SANDY WARNING
Hurricane Sandy will have major impacts on the Appalachian National Scenic Trail particularly in the Mid-Atlantic and southern New England states. If you had planned to hike this week, postpone your plans. If you are hiking now, leave the Trail and seek shelter in a sound structure in town or at a hostel or (least preferred option) an A.T. shelter. Use extreme caution during and following the storm.

Impacts from flooding and tree damage from high winds are likely to be extensive. Small stream crossings will become extremely hazardous with rainfall exceeding 12-inches in some locations. Emergency response may be delayed or nonexistent due to heavily taxed resources and access issues. Cell and electronic communications may not be available for an extended period.

In some areas of the trail, users should be prepared for the potential of snow accumulation that could hinder foot travel and hasten the threat of hypothermia or frostbite.

Hikers should always remember their obligations to potential rescuers, and stay safe and out of trouble. This is your responsibility!

Several areas that the Appalachian Trail passes through have been closed or have issued alerts. Pay attention to local agency closures and weather alerts for more information. Known closures or alerts:

NH - White Mountain National Forest www.fs.usda.gov/whitemountain (http://www.fs.usda.gov/whitemountain)
VT - Green Mountain National Forest www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/greenmountain/alerts-notices/?aid=15249 (http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/greenmountain/alerts-notices/?aid=15249)
NY - New York State Parks www.governor.ny.gov (http://www.governor.ny.gov)
NY - NYDEC (state forests) http://nynjtc.org/content/catskill-trails-updatesNJ - New Jersey State Parks www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandforests/ (http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandforests/)
NJ/PA - Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area www.nps.gov/dewa (http://www.nps.gov/dewa)
MD -Maryland DNR http://news.maryland.gov/dnr/2012/10/28/maryland-state-parks-closing-for-hurricane-sandy/ (http://http://news.maryland.gov/dnr/2012/10/28/maryland-state-parks-closing-for-hurricane-sandy/)
MD - C&O NHP www.nps.gov/choh (http://www.nps.gov/choh)
WV/VA - Harpers Ferry National Historical Park (WV/VA): www.nps.gov/hafe (http://www.nps.gov/hafe)
VA - Shenandoah National Park (VA) www.nps.gov/shen (http://www.nps.gov/shen)

Please monitor National Weather Service for up-to-date forecasts and local conditions as well as agency websites for closures and advisories. Be prepared with extra food, water, batteries, clothing and find adequate shelter during the storm.

[Lauriep]

And this was just passed on by our southern office in Asheville:

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MORRISTOWN TN
316 AM EDT MON OCT 29 2012

...SIGNIFICANT WINTER STORM TO AFFECT THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIAN
REGION...

HEAVY SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE VERY ELEVATION
DEPENDENT...WITH MINOR OR NO ACCUMULATIONS EXPECTED IN MOST
VALLEY LOCATIONS.


...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 8 AM EDT
WEDNESDAY...

* EVENT...SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 4 TO 17 INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE BY
WEDNESDAY MORNING...MAINLY ACROSS ELEVATIONS ABOVE 2500 FEET.

* TIMING...SNOW SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT...WITH
THE HEAVIEST SNOW SHOWERS EXPECTED TONIGHT.

* IMPACTS...MOST OF THIS SNOW SHOULD BE A HEAVY WET SNOW. THE
WEIGHT FROM THIS WET SNOWFALL MAY DOWN SOME TREES AND POWER
LINES...CAUSING POWER OUTAGES. DRIVING MAY BECOME HAZARDOUS DUE
TO THE SNOW AND ICE COVERED ROADWAYS. STRONG WINDS WITH HEAVY
SNOW MAY CAUSE LOCALIZED BLIZZARD CONDITIONS OVER THE HIGHEST
ELEVATIONS AT TIMES.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF
SNOW ARE FORECAST THAT WILL MAKE TRAVEL DANGEROUS. IN ADDITION...
SNOWFALL INTENSITIES WILL BE HEAVY ENOUGH TO SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE
VISIBILITIES AT TIMES. TRAVEL IS DISCOURAGED. IF TRAVEL IS
UNAVOIDABLE...KEEP AN EXTRA FLASHLIGHT...FOOD...AND WATER IN YOUR
VEHICLE IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY.

********There is also a WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 8 PM TUESDAY FOR NORTHWEST WIND 25 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 45

Laurie P.
ATC

[JJJ]

And just a little further north....

Winter Storm Warning
NCZ001-018-VAZ015-292200-
/O.CON.KRNK.WS.W.0005.000000T0000Z-121031T1200Z/
ASHE-WATAUGA-GRAYSON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WEST JEFFERSON...BOONE...INDEPENDENCE...
WHITETOP...TROUTDALE...VOLNEY
958 AM EDT MON OCT 29 2012

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 8 AM EDT
WEDNESDAY ABOVE 2500 FEET...

* LOCATIONS...WESTERN SLOPES AND HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF SOUTHWEST
VIRGINIA AND NORTHWEST NORTH CAROLINA.

* HAZARD TYPES...HEAVY WET SNOW AND STRONG GUSTY WINDS.

* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 4 TO 8 INCHES...WITH
LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS...PARTICULARLY IN THE HIGHEST
ELEVATIONS.

* TIMING...RAIN WILL CHANGE TO SNOW THIS EVENING. PERIODS OF
MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW WILL ARE EXPECTED MONDAY THROUGH
TUESDAY NIGHT.

* IMPACTS...HEAVY WET SNOW COMBINED WITH GUSTY WINDS MAY TOPPLE
TREES AND POWER LINES.

* WINDS...NORTHWEST 25 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 60 MPH.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE UPPER 20S TO MID 30S.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW
ARE FORECAST THAT WILL MAKE TRAVEL DANGEROUS. ONLY TRAVEL IN AN
EMERGENCY. IF YOU MUST TRAVEL...KEEP AN EXTRA FLASHLIGHT...FOOD...
AND WATER IN YOUR VEHICLE IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY.

[neonshaw]

looks like snow tonight all over AT throughout TN and NC, y'all be safe out there

[Wise Old Owl]

The winds were not exajurated they were intense... better than 60 tonight. A lot of branches and trees are down

[hikerboy57]

we had gusts as high as 90mph

[jakedatc]

Not bad on my side of Bristol,RI lots of wind.. gusts to 50 maybe? few small limbs down.. neighbor had one big limb come down and miss everything in their yard. lucky shot. bit of rain but we weren't expected to get much. apparently the lower spots around the state were not as lucky and there could be some big damage

providence storm gates worked and are opened back up again.

[hikerboy57]

793000 without power on long island, massive flooding in NYC and long island,hundreds of people stranded in their homes.

[Rick500]

Still watching closely to determine if 4 days/3 nights SOBO starting at Grayson Highlands will be feasible starting Thursday...

Be safe, everyone.

[Driver8]

About 500K Connecticut Light and Power customers w/o power, fortunately not including me, so far. Coach's town is 34% out, Elf's town is 55% out now.

[Bucherm]

Picture from SNPs Facebook page. Big Meadows

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/36584_548005185224907_882315654_n.jpg

[Mrs Baggins]

Power out all night here in Frederick MD but restored (at least in our neighborhood) around 6:10 am. Winds were roaring all night - very scary. At one point I actually feared that the windows would give way. Our house sits up on a hillside and really gets the wind far worse than down in town. Waiting on sunrise to see if there is any damage in the area.

[hikerboy57]

here on long island we are devastated,. we've got close to a million out of power, people still trapped in their homes waiting to be evacuated. the roads are all closed until they can assess the extent of the damae and to allow emergency personnel access.
this was bad. really bad.
and i still havent heard from my kids who stayed with their mom in the canals of long beach, chose wrongly to stick it out.
this was our katrina

[Cookerhiker]

per the Weather Channel:

"Up to ten inches of snowfall was measured as far south as Newfound Gap, Tenn. at an elevation of 5,000 feet."

Also per TWC, the greatest amount of snow thus far was 18" recorded in Davis, WV high in the Monongahala NF near Dolly Sods. I was up there hiking the Allegheny Trail barely a week ago. Davis elevation is over 3,000'.

[Lone Wolf]

carvers gap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OeDMtj8ER-Y&noredirect=1

[ChinMusic]

http://hint.fm/wind/

USA Wind Map is pretty cool

[atraildreamer]

we had gusts as high as 90mph

The highest wind recorded in RI was at Westerly...86 mph...it broke the weather station! :eek:

Mainly a wind event in the Providence area, with a lot of rain (1-2 inches). The hurricane barrier performed flawlessly in keeping the storm surge from the city. They had the barrier closed during the high tide periods, and opened one of the 3 gates to equalize the water levels in the mid-day hours. Unfortunately, a lot of the lower lying areas along the coast were flooded along with a lot of property damage. Lots of power outages, but the crews are quickly restoring service to the affected areas.

Compared to NYC, we are pretty well off. Be interesting to see how they are going to get that broken crane off of that skyscraper! :-?

[Wise Old Owl]

Current weather on the trail over the next few days in Pennsylvania will be very cold. This doesn't factor wind.



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https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5zprtLkTTyM/UE5iZhZFFkI/AAAAAAABP5M/L36xE1FNGg4/Extreme%2BStorm%2BManhattan%252C%2BNYC.jpgManhatta n...

[Wise Old Owl]

http://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2012/10/29/superstorm-sandy_star_r640x400.jpg?5f283927f7404204a81e453b15 3d50eb7d86d89b 15 hours ago...

[Wise Old Owl]

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/50900a7569beddf375000000-500-375/laguardia.jpeg La-Guardia Airport NY. won't be open - this is storm surge....

[hikerboy57]

long beach,ny from the air:http://www.news12.com/articleDetail.jsp?articleId=338759&position=1&news_type=news

[Wise Old Owl]

http://www.texasstormchasers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Queens-55-8300-5th-Alarm-Breezy-Point1-600x337.jpeg Fires in Queens burning for more than 8 hours.

[hikerboy57]

http://www.texasstormchasers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Queens-55-8300-5th-Alarm-Breezy-Point1-600x337.jpeg Fires in Queens burning for more than 8 hours.

between 80 and 100 homes were lost in breezy point

[Wise Old Owl]

http://specials-images.forbes.com/imageserve/07wjad00UwdT1/0x600.jpg?fit=scale&background=000000

Battery Tunnel and Lincoln Tunnel have water - Battery is 12 feet high and Lincoln has mixed reports.

[hikerboy57]

17924debris from sandy in southampton,ny

[Feral Bill]

http://www.texasstormchasers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Queens-55-8300-5th-Alarm-Breezy-Point1-600x337.jpeg Fires in Queens burning for more than 8 hours. Ironically, a neighborhood of mostly fire fighters and police.

[Wise Old Owl]

Wow sorry to hear that... did not know the firefighters are there...

Here is Ground Zero as a waterfall.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/30/1351595927547/Seawater-floods-the-groun-010.jpg

[hikerboy57]

another casualty of sandy, found on long beach boardwalk todayhttp://www.google.com/hostednews/getty/media/ALeqM5jH3yIbli9q9vxeIDTqZ1844Pw5QA?docId=155000893

[hikerboy57]

from breezy point,nyhttp://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.4170138.1351625394!/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/display_525/image.JPG&sa=X&ei=FDyQUJn2BIns0QGzx4AY&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNHKe9NWPXdGr5T-CmHmI9oA7YIxgg

[Train Wreck]

A coworker received this photo from relatives in NJ

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[WingedMonkey]

A coworker received this photo from relatives in NJ

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Same fake pic made the rounds after Hurricane Irene

[hikerboy57]

Same fake pic made the rounds after Hurricane Irene
heres the real one:
http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/uploads/Hurricane-SandyShark.jpg&sa=X&ei=6ICQUKvVB_DE0AGc_IDQAQ&ved=0CAkQ8wc4Kg&usg=AFQjCNEDJ8sqF2JrVhdTItf7dycIIMjHoQ

[Train Wreck]

Same fake pic made the rounds after Hurricane Irene

really?
I'd have thought the water would have gone down by now.

[ChinMusic]

Lincoln said it best, "You can't believe everything you see or read on the internet".

[HikerMom58]

Aww.... that's disappointing!! Lincoln knows best.....

[Train Wreck]

Lincoln said it best, "You can't believe everything you see or read on the internet".

I totally agree!

[atraildreamer]

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/50900a7569beddf375000000-500-375/laguardia.jpeg La-Guardia Airport NY. won't be open - this is storm surge....

Seaplanes only?

[atraildreamer]

Just looked out the window...seeing blue sky and sunshine! :sun :banana

[Wise Old Owl]

Seaplanes only?

strange I would love to see a sea plane make a major comeback.... big fan of movies before my time.

[atraildreamer]

The weather forecasters are talking about a potential Northeaster forming up at the end of next week. Possibly hitting the East coast from the Carolinas to New England with high winds and rain. :(

[hikerboy57]

The weather forecasters are talking about a potential Northeaster forming up at the end of next week. Possibly hitting the East coast from the Carolinas to New England with high winds and rain. :(
tell me about it. the last thing in the world we need right now, our barrier beaches are destroyed,tens of thousands of people homeless right now.
www.redcross.com (http://www.redcross.com)

[Wise Old Owl]

I am listening via AM to some of the NYC stations - their are 5 mile lines on the NJTurnpike lined up for gas and the wait is two hours. They look like they will run out. http://media.nj.com/politics_impact/photo/11645283-large.jpg

[Wise Old Owl]

Two surprises I found out yesterday - here locally those that can afford it got out - exstended stay and hotels around Philadelphia are surrounded with cars with plates from NY and NJ. Many Hotels are booked full. Many dropped everything and fled NYC.

Red Cross set up a thousand people at West Chester University at South Campus 30 miles west of Philadelphia. Refugees of New Jersey bussed to stay in the gymnasium. Meals and Cots and tractor trailers for service. Having seen this before firsthand after a tornado years ago - I am not sure I would want to be there.

[atraildreamer]

Another casualty of Sandy! :eek:

[hikerboy57]

I am listening via AM to some of the NYC stations - their are 5 mile lines on the NJTurnpike lined up for gas and the wait is two hours. They look like they will run out. http://media.nj.com/politics_impact/photo/11645283-large.jpg

we should strt seeing gas supply come on line within the next few days. part of the problem is people who dont even need gas are lining up to top off their tanks, thinking we may never see gas again. theres a lot of desparation and panic right now.
for the most part, however, people are helping each other out the best we can.
www.redcross.org (http://www.redcross.org)

[Wise Old Owl]

HB its Red Cross . ORG

[Train Wreck]

Another casualty of Sandy! :eek:

nothing some bondo and a can of spray paint won't fix

[hikerboy57]

HB its Red Cross . ORGthanks woo

[Wise Old Owl]

No biggie - just found out for NJ they are using the Nat. Guard to prevent people to returning too early as they start to clear the debris - Some folk are still on the Island refusing to leave and are able to stick it out in spite of no power/ heat.

[Toolshed]

Lotta NJ Plates filling up with gas here in Eastern PA. Still without Power since Monday. Hoping to get it back on sunday 11/4.

[Wise Old Owl]

Hi Toolshed! hows things~!

[ki0eh]

Lotta NJ Plates filling up with gas here in Eastern PA.

On the lighter side I wonder how many need help pumping gas, or need to be told they have to do it...

A few lineman trucks, a disaster supply tractor trailer from a Nashville church, and a whole bunch of UPS trucks heading north on I-81 today.

[atraildreamer]

The weather forecasters are talking about a potential Northeaster forming up at the end of next week. Possibly hitting the East coast from the Carolinas to New England with high winds and rain. :(

Just looked out the window...wet snow, rain and high winds here in Providence. Looked at the weather map radar loop. The Northeaster is doing a bulls-eye on the western end of Long Island and into the areas of NYC and NJ previously pounded by Sandy! :(

[FarmerChef]

Saw the weather map as well. Thoughts and prayers going up for those folks.

[hikerboy57]

storm is supposed to bring up to a foot of snow to higher elevations in NY,NJ,CT, and mass

[hikerboy57]

Saw the weather map as well. Thoughts and prayers going up for those folks.

we're doing okay, the trauma is over, weve rolled up our sleeves and started to get long beach and island park back to whatever sense of normal we can.the support we've received from all over the country is heartwarming, the sense of community has never been stronger, but its going to be a cold wet night for a lot of displaced families still.i went home yesterday to help with the relief effort, but im staying back here at the dealership i work at tonight, our house is going to get flooded again today. hopefully i can go back home tomorrow.

[Pedaling Fool]

Rationing Gas http://news.yahoo.com/northeast-digs-snow-gas-rationing-expands-004951341.html



New York rations gasoline; storm victims still in the dark



NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York City began rationing gasoline on Friday for the first time since the energy shortages of the 1970s, seeking to ease a fuel crisis brought on by Superstorm Sandy.

The former hurricane hammered the U.S. East Coast on October 29, killing at least 120 people and causing an estimated $50 billion in damage or economic losses.

It also disrupted the fuel supply chain, creating hours-long waits for gasoline that led officials first in New Jersey and now New York City and Long Island to impose rationing. Cars with odd- and even-numbered license plates will be able to buy gas and diesel fuel on alternate days.

"This is worse than the oil crises of the 1970s," said Ralph Bombardiere, executive director of the New York State Association of Service Stations and Repair Shops. "Back then there was just a perceived shortage of supply in New York, when there was plenty of gasoline around. Now we're having real distribution problems."

The long lines at the pump have added to the frustration of commuters, who must choose between driving and enduring seemingly interminable waits for buses and trains with parts of the transportation network still damaged.

In addition, some 434,000 homes and businesses in the Northeast lacked power as of Friday afternoon, creating more misery for the thousands forced to flee their storm-damaged homes or for those who have hunkered down in the dark with freezing overnight temperatures.

Protesters took to the streets in the Long Island town of Oceanside on Friday, chanting, "Where is LIPA? Where is LIPA?" referring to the Long Island Power Authority, a state-owned utility.

A snowstorm blasted the region on Wednesday, knocking out power to some homes just as they were getting back on the grid after Sandy. Warmer and sunny weather was forecast for the weekend, providing some relief to disaster victims.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg at first resisted gas rationing, saying fuel supplies should return to normal once New York Harbor reopened after the storm and tankers started sailing again.

But many gasoline terminals - which transfer fuel from tankers at sea to trucks on land - sustained damage from the storm that created a record surge of seawater and flooded low-lying areas.

Because of long lines at terminals, gasoline trucks were only able to make two trips on Friday, when normally they would make six, Bombardiere said. The odd-even rationing "should help cut down on panic buying," he said.

But despite the new measure, long lines at gas pumps in New York City and Long Island continued on Friday. Some 28 percent of gas stations in the New York metropolitan area did not have fuel available for sale on Thursday, down from 38 percent on Wednesday, the U.S. Energy Information Administration said.

LIKE A FOREIGN COUNTRY?

Gas lines were considerably shorter in New Jersey, and Governor Chris Christie said he expected power to be restored to 100 percent of the state by Saturday night.

But Christie, who toured the New Jersey shore on Friday, said the rebuilding effort for vacation towns would be "long, expensive and hard," and said it would not be completed in time for next summer.

"This is our Katrina," he declared.

In the Rockaways, a hard-hit area of Long Island, New York, a group of military veterans known as Team Rubicon helped residents shovel sand away from their homes, remove rotted drywall from basements and haul large items to the sidewalk.

At the sidewalk, New York sanitation officials used huge tractors to scoop the debris into dump trucks and hauled it away.

Peter Meijer, a Team Rubicon member who just returned from a trip helping refugees in South Sudan, said the work was gratifying. "This is more satisfying than even my time in the military."

A week after Sandy, Doctors Without Borders established temporary emergency clinics in the hard-hit Rockaways - a barrier island in Queens facing the Atlantic Ocean - to tend to residents of high-rises who still lacked power and heat and were left isolated by the storm.

"A lot of us have said it feels a lot like being in the field in a foreign country," said Manhattan doctor Lucy Doyle, who has worked for the medical relief organization in Africa.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency said it was providing mobile homes to people displaced by the storm, a reminder of Hurricane Katrina on the Gulf Coast seven years ago. Some evacuees would be housed nearly 200 miles from home, FEMA said, because there was little available space closer to the city.

Manhattan stores and restaurants have yet to recover. Some are awaiting emergency loans, while others are trying to make it on their own.

"We don't have the product to sell," said Zach Mack, a co-owner of the ABC Beer Co, which flooded last week, knocking out electricity for days. "And we don't have the people to sell it to."

[Wise Old Owl]

Today the folks being interviewed summed it up on Fox News.... Its taking too long to get the power to get back on Long Island. So part of the frustration is even if the power gets back on - electricians need to replace the fuse boxes that were under water. Still 134,000 without power two weeks after the storm.

A small part was they didn't have enough poles.

[hikerboy57]

11 days and we havent seen a lipa truck yet in island park.got the gas back though.

[Pedaling Fool]

Notice how all the news reports have been subdued concerning the aftermath of this storm.

BTW, I don't blame the govt on the slowness, this is difficult task, I'm just saying that the news reports are subdued.

[hikerboy57]

actually all things considered,except for lipas performance, i think the work is proceeding fairly quickly, trash is getting picked up and even parts of long beach have had power restored.

[WingedMonkey]

The Federal Emergency Management Agency said it was providing mobile homes to people displaced by the storm, a reminder of Hurricane Katrina on the Gulf Coast seven years ago. Some evacuees would be housed nearly 200 miles from home, FEMA said, because there was little available space closer to the city.

This is gonna be interesting.

[TheYoungOne]

I'm in Delaware county PA , just south of Philly and right across the river from NJ. I wanted to get a 5 Gallon gas can for my lawn mower and every store in my area are still sold out of gas cans. Crazy stuff.