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Datto
12-17-2012, 17:11
Your worries

Okay, so you're looking to thru-hike the Appalachian Trail in 2013 and have some worries and concerns. Let's go through the Top Five Worries About Thru-Hiking the Appalachian Trail -- if others want to contribute and add their list of AT thru-hiking worries and remedies, by all means jump right in:


Worry Five: My [girlfriend, boyfriend, spouse, parents, friends, resident alien, mother-in-law] think the idea of leaving work and your good life back home just to thru-hike the Appalachian Trail is nuts.

It's unsafe. It's irresponsible. It's useless. It's impossible. Oh God, I could go on and on describing all the reasons I've heard before, during and after my AT thru-hike. The best one was the utterance said right to my face when I had been thinking of thru-hiking the AT: "Why would you ever want to doing something like that?" and I'd responded, "Why did they climb Everest?" and the response back to me was, "That was almost as crazy!" It's still makes me smile to think about that day. Look, the vast majority of people don't like change and society doesn't like things off the curve. But you'll find those experiences are the specific things that make life memorable, that make life worth living, that allow you to live life fully. Taking on great challenges -- and succeeding. I honestly can't thing of many things more enlightening, enjoyable, just-plain-fun, exciting, frustrating or memorable that I've done in my short life than my thru-hike of the Appalachian Trail. For extra credit, look at the link below to view my listing of the Top Ten Likely Benefits From Completing Your AT Thru-hike that I'd composed previously. And you'd want to give up the things on that list of likely benefits just so you could go to work every day and come home at night to watch Wheel Of Fortune? Maybe your mother-in-law was right about you. Wapner. Wapner at 4:30.

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?88908-Datto-s-List-OfTop-Ten-Likely-Benefits-From-Completing-Your-AT-Thru-hike&p=1351900&highlight=#post1351900


Worry Four: I'll run out of money.

That's a big concern since running out of money is in the top five reasons AT thru-hikes end prematurely. It's pretty simple -- if you haven't saved $5,000 cash to spend on your AT thru-hike, it's likely you'll run out of money or may go into considerable debt just to complete your AT thru-hike. That $5,000 cash includes the money you spend from the time you get on the plane/train/bus in your home town to when you arrive back in your home town after you complete your AT thru-hike. It includes gear you would replenish or replace on the Trail but not gear you start the Trail with at Springer Mountain for northbounders or Katahdin for southbounders. Even if you have $5,000 saved up, here's an important part of the utilization of that $5,000 -- if you're a northbounder you need to have one-half of that amount still available to you when you reach the southern Connecticut border. Reason: the New England states are very eye-opening expensive and you've been spoiled by the cheaper costs of the southern Appalachian Trail states.


Worry Three: I don't know if I'm physically capable of carrying a backpack 2,175 dot ought miles.

You would not believe the number of people I know who had started their AT thru-hikes in the absolutely worst physical shape you can imagine. Way overweight, all kinds of medications they had to take that made them [choose your side-effect here], all kinds of physical disabilities. I know people who were seventy pounds overweight who made it from Springer Mountain, GA to Katahdin in Maine. Heck, a blind guy started his AT thru-hike with his white cane and went over all those rocks in North Carolina moving the cane back and forth. Earl Shaffer was just ahead of me on his third AT thru-hike when I was on my AT thru-hike -- and he was 80 years old. That's right -- 80 years old. So, are you telling me you can't do what an 80 year old guy could do, a blind guy could do and someone who starts their AT thru-hike being 70 lbs overweight could do? As some sage thru-hikers before me have said, "It's just walkin'". You get used to it, relish it, begin to enjoy it, begin to enjoy the life on the Trail. And you know what? When you have completed your thru-hike you'll likely think it was the best time of your life.


Worry Two: What if I get bored -- I've never been in the woods for that long of a period of time and I've never been away from my family for that long of a time -- maybe I should arrange to start my AT thru-hike with someone?

Ha, if you're a northbounder you have no worries at all. The Trail will be crawling with people who are starting their own AT thru-hikes. You don't need to find someone to start an AT thru-hike with -- there will be loads of people hiking along with you. Interesting people from all walks of life -- hairdressers, history teachers, recent college graduates, retirees, Army generals, furniture salespeople, people just back from the Peace Corps or similar, computer professionals, divorcees, happily married folks, rich executives, people who've been out of work for a long time, foreigners, domestics, conservatives, liberals, people with alternative lifestyles back in "society", FBI agents, journalists and cab drivers. Those are just some of the individuals who I'd hiked with during my AT thru-hike. On the Trail it's a microcosm of the world. It's not just crazy outdoorsy people -- in fact, outdoorsy people are pretty much few and far between. I would say it's more about people from all walks of life wanting an adventure, wanting a challenge, wanting to do something interesting with themselves. The outdoorsy part you learn on the Trail if you don't already have it when you start. You'll probably meet people for the first time right on the top of Springer Mountain, who've also climbed up the side of the mountain to start their AT thru-hike just like you, that you'll also go up Katahdin with when you finish your thru-hike in Maine. I know it is hard to believe -- I was told that it would be that way by past thru-hikers when I was preparing for my AT thru-hike and I'd been skeptical of it. But you know what? I met up with several of the people I'd first met on Springer Mountain, GA when I went up Katahdin six months later. You develop friendships along the Trail -- sometimes life-long friends, sometimes romances, most of the time it's people you'd never met before you'd started your AT thru-hike. Some of those people are not going to be at all like you -- but you'll still enjoy each others company. I can tell you I met up with introverts, extraverts, groups of hikers, people who liked to hike and camp alone, devoutly religious folks and atheists, Moms and Dads. It's takes all kinds to show up one day by chance and start north from Springer Mountain or south from Katahdin. There isn't necessarily a "type" per se but since you are reading this I can expressly say that you are the type and you'll meet up with many of your type right on the Trail during the first few weeks of your AT thru-hike. So don't worry about it at all.


Worry One: What will I do afterwards?

Now there is something to think about while you're hiking. Not every day, just occasionally -- once a month or so. There's a chance when you get to about, oh, mile 2,000, you're going to think to yourself, "I can't go back to how it was before. Not after having experienced this." The "this" meaning your life on the Trail. One suggestion I can give you -- if you have the ability, plan ahead of time to take 30 days after you complete your AT thru-hike to put a plan together before you start moving in any direction with your life. It will give you time for perspective as well as time to get yourself back to experiencing that amazing colossal spigot in the kitchen that has clean flowing water coming out of it that doesn't need to be treated. Take a walk through your local Wal-mart after your thru-hike and gaze upon the people who never had the chance, nor will have the chance, to experience what you've had over the course of several recent months. Watch how other people lead their lives. What you currently think is normal, before your AT thru-hike, may seem so odd when you return from completing your AT thru-hike. When you first watch the Nightly News upon return from the AT, remember about all the kindness that you'd experienced on the Trail, about the happiness you saw first-hand for yourself. That is how the world truly is -- not the way it is presented on a nineteen inch diagonal view of the world. Whatever you decide to do with yourself after you return from your AT thru-hike, I know you are going to be thankful.

Best of adventures to all of you in the Class of 2013.


Datto

swjohnsey
12-17-2012, 21:48
Don't worry, be happy!

atmilkman
12-17-2012, 21:58
Injury and illness. Not really worried about it to the point of "what ifness" (is that a word) but I think about it. Nothing I can do to stop it. If it happens, it happens. I can only do the best I can to minimize the chances. Not gonna worry about it.

swjohnsey
12-17-2012, 22:00
Flagyl kills giardia and Doxycyclene kill Lyme.

atmilkman
12-17-2012, 22:15
Flagyl kills giardia and Doxycyclene kill Lyme.
Got a Doxy script from the Doc that's good for a year. Just don't know whether to get it filled in March right before I go and have it on hand or wait and get it filled on the trail if necessary.

fredmugs
12-18-2012, 07:31
If I was thru hiking in 2013 I would be worried that the weather is going to be completely the opposite of last year. Much colder and lots of snow.

Sugarfoot
12-18-2012, 08:32
My biggest worry is getting through the next four months before I can leave to start my thru-hike. I don't worry about my time on the trail. One of my rituals is to do the approach trail from Amicolola. It is always on top of Frosty Mountain that I feel all my cares fall aside and I enter into the life of the forest.

MDSection12
12-18-2012, 09:22
Is $5K really considered a benchmark for costs on the trail? :eek:

Hairbear
12-18-2012, 09:41
my biggest fear is my knees not holding up to the demands of my spirit,2-i fear if the trail gods find it in their will to let me finish,that it will turn to pride ruining the desire to reduce myself to the purest being i can find within myself while on trail.3-also if i find the inner me will i loose it upon reentry into society.4-last but not least,i worry for my children,who are entering into the stage of young manhood.

Walkindadog
12-18-2012, 10:27
Hey Sugarfoot,
I agree. I am champing at the bit and Im not starting until after April 15 or so to avoid the spring rush or rather , get out of the way of the rush. I lived in Sarasota for 20 odd yrs and left in 2006. Reside in SC now. Much cheaper. I am going to hike the Palmetto Trail in SC the 1st of Jan for a shakedown/training hike. About 425 miles of easy hiking.

Walkindadog
12-18-2012, 10:28
My biggest worry is getting through the next four months before I can leave to start my thru-hike. I don't worry about my time on the trail. One of my rituals is to do the approach trail from Amicolola. It is always on top of Frosty Mountain that I feel all my cares fall aside and I enter into the life of the forest.

You sound as though you have hiked the trail before?

Walkindadog
12-18-2012, 10:32
Im not worried about much. I have enough money and a good set of gear. Then I just put my head down and go. If something unforeseen happens , so be it. I am not going to borrow trouble courting a bunch of **what ifs**

Starchild
12-18-2012, 10:41
my biggest fear is my knees not holding up ...
This is my biggest concern also. This past years I have been feeling some discomfort especially when pushed hard. It seems like it's OK if I use the sticks and not over exert while backpacking but for a daily routine it does concern me.

Peace

Pedaling Fool
12-18-2012, 10:52
This is my biggest concern also. This past years I have been feeling some discomfort especially when pushed hard. It seems like it's OK if I use the sticks and not over exert while backpacking but for a daily routine it does concern me.

Peace
To have strong knees you need to build them up, no other way. Crossfit exercises provide good workouts for the knees. Just look them up and start doing, don't even need to do them with weights (in the beginning). What kills the knees the most is walking downhill, especially with a backpack. Here's just one example of an outstanding workout http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zP2CyaxhwU

Karma13
12-18-2012, 10:55
Knees are my biggest fear, too! I have an old injury.

But I think I've managed to hit on the right combination of exercises and the right brace, as of this last week. We'll see how it goes! But I figure it's going to hurt at home or hurt on the Trail, and in fact, the place it hurts the least is when I'm walking.

Can't worry about the results, though. So I'm not! :)

Sugarfoot
12-18-2012, 11:03
Greetings, Walkindadog. You would miss Sarasota today. Currently 73 degrees, mostly sunny (at 10 AM). I've hiked about 5,000 miles on the AT over the past 19 years, but I've never thru-hiked. 2013 will be my first. You are right. Compared to living in Sarasota, hiking the trail is cheap!

BrianLe
12-18-2012, 13:45
"To have strong knees you need to build them up, no other way."

The other prep issue (set) I would suggest for those with knee concerns is to think about your total weight carried starting out --- body weight, base weight, and resupply plans (food weight carried between resupply points).
For most people in reasonable shape, I don't consider it a problem to start hiking a bit overweight, but "substantially overweight" combined with "knee concerns" isn't a great combination. The trail will reduce your body weight if you can stay on trail, but if knee issues push you off before that happens ...
Pack weight is pretty well addressed on this and other sites. I guess I would just say that if you've been in the "traditional packing, real-men-tough-it-out and carry it all" camp, then I suggest that you re-think this in your trip preparation phase if you have knee concerns.
And definitely become accustomed ahead of time to just continuously, always using two trekking poles.
Consider also just studying the issue; recognize the symptoms of the most common knee complaints and know the right combination of rest, drugs, knee brace, etc to deal with it so it's not something you're figuring out on the fly if it happens to you.

firesign
12-18-2012, 13:49
Hairbair, consider something like these for your knees:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neo-MEDICAL-GRADE-JUMPERS-PATELLA/dp/B001M04X82/ref=sr_1_2?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1354472968&sr=1-2

and a good pair of poles which if used properly will relieve a lot of pressure from your knees. Obviously there is weight reduction and a light pack, but you know this already,

Best,

Hairbear
12-18-2012, 20:39
Hairbair, consider something like these for your knees:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neo-MEDICAL-GRADE-JUMPERS-PATELLA/dp/B001M04X82/ref=sr_1_2?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1354472968&sr=1-2

and a good pair of poles which if used properly will relieve a lot of pressure from your knees. Obviously there is weight reduction and a light pack, but you know this already,

Best,
thanks for the support fire sign.

Sman
12-18-2012, 21:12
Worry about the family at home. As far as the hike,,, no worries,,,,,

OzJacko
12-19-2012, 07:24
My wife may sell the house while I'm gone.
Worried she may not give me the new address....:D

Don H
12-19-2012, 08:17
Is $5K really considered a benchmark for costs on the trail? :eek:

Yep, there's plenty of threads here that discuss how much it cost. Some think they can do it for a dollar a day, but most everyone who has done the trail will tell you 5 grand is a good figure to shoot for for the "Average" hiker.

Don H
12-19-2012, 08:30
Got a Doxy script from the Doc that's good for a year. Just don't know whether to get it filled in March right before I go and have it on hand or wait and get it filled on the trail if necessary.

I was carrying 7 days of Doxy and needed it in MA when I came down with Lyme. I called my doc and he called in a script to the pharmacy in the next town which was Dalton. I got the phone number for the pharmacy from the AT Guide. I think having those initial doses available really helped me get over it faster. You don't need to carry the entire 21 or 30 days worth, just a few days.

If you're starting in GA in early spring you chances of encountering Lyme are very slim until you get into Northern VA. Between there and VT you are at a greater risk.

Danl
12-19-2012, 08:55
I have an automatic mortgage payment set. I will have a steady income on the trail. My wife keeps reassuring me it will be okay.( not sure if thats a good thing ).hehe. My neighbor is on call if anything goes wrong in the house. My cousin is coming along for mutual moral support. I am retired he is quiting his job, we both have been saving, testing, experimenting with ramen, etc... The only real worry i will have is losing this excess weight that i have, hehe. I won't miss it. Every day above dirt is a good day. C ya on da trail.

Hairbear
12-19-2012, 10:05
Knees are my biggest fear, too! I have an old injury.

But I think I've managed to hit on the right combination of exercises and the right brace, as of this last week. We'll see how it goes! But I figure it's going to hurt at home or hurt on the Trail, and in fact, the place it hurts the least is when I'm walking.

Can't worry about the results, though. So I'm not! :) plus 1 my opinion exactly,fear is the flower of doubt.having no frame of reference is the root.if i admit my fears thats my way of pulling out the roots.to cover them in vanity by saying that wont happen to me,seems in my mind a good way of being overtaken by the weeds.

Pedaling Fool
12-19-2012, 10:32
The other prep issue (set) I would suggest for those with knee concerns is to think about your total weight carried starting out --- body weight, base weight, and resupply plans (food weight carried between resupply points).
For most people in reasonable shape, I don't consider it a problem to start hiking a bit overweight, but "substantially overweight" combined with "knee concerns" isn't a great combination. The trail will reduce your body weight if you can stay on trail, but if knee issues push you off before that happens ...
Pack weight is pretty well addressed on this and other sites. I guess I would just say that if you've been in the "traditional packing, real-men-tough-it-out and carry it all" camp, then I suggest that you re-think this in your trip preparation phase if you have knee concerns.
And definitely become accustomed ahead of time to just continuously, always using two trekking poles.
Consider also just studying the issue; recognize the symptoms of the most common knee complaints and know the right combination of rest, drugs, knee brace, etc to deal with it so it's not something you're figuring out on the fly if it happens to you.I'm sure most people will do everything to reduce pack weight, but that along with all the "education", drugs, braces, poles... are not the ideal fix to the problem. The problem is weak knees, it's a major problem on the trail and even off the trail. Seems like we as a society have tunnel vision on fitness, it seems to be totally focused on cardio, but I say, just look around, everyone is suffering from joint issues, not just hikers, but everyone, especially the old. That's where weightlifing is super beneficial, not just for a hike, but to keep the body healthy as it ages.

Hairbear
12-19-2012, 10:38
I'm sure most people will do everything to reduce pack weight, but that along with all the "education", drugs, braces, poles... are not the ideal fix to the problem. The problem is weak knees, it's a major problem on the trail and even off the trail. Seems like we as a society have tunnel vision on fitness, it seems to be totally focused on cardio, but I say, just look around, everyone is suffering from joint issues, not just hikers, but everyone, especially the old. That's where weightlifing is super beneficial, not just for a hike, but to keep the body healthy as it ages.listen to john,he recomended one legged squats several months back.i did what he said,noticing a much greater strength from where i started.after new years im starting training at the y for the leg machines.johns advice has thickened my legs by quite a bit.thanks john

Spark2Fire
12-19-2012, 13:13
Looking so forward to thru-hiking i can't stand it! I have hiked the first 200 miles of it and know that the experience is one I will love! Nothing worse than the drive back to the city after a wonderful weekend of mountains!
Spark2Fire

Datto
12-19-2012, 20:55
My wife may sell the house while I'm gone.
Worried she may not give me the new address....:D

In thru-hiking terms, that's called a Honey Boo Boo.


Datto

turtle fast
12-20-2012, 12:03
My greatest concerns is about the situation at home...and the ability to keep in contact enough to have the family and business run well enough to allow me to hike the AT. Its a sacrifice on their part too to allow me to hike so its up to me to keep them informed of where I am and keep them invested in my hike at home as my greatest support team.

atmilkman
12-20-2012, 12:08
I was carrying 7 days of Doxy and needed it in MA when I came down with Lyme. I called my doc and he called in a script to the pharmacy in the next town which was Dalton. I got the phone number for the pharmacy from the AT Guide. I think having those initial doses available really helped me get over it faster. You don't need to carry the entire 21 or 30 days worth, just a few days.

If you're starting in GA in early spring you chances of encountering Lyme are very slim until you get into Northern VA. Between there and VT you are at a greater risk.
This is exactly the way I'm probably gonna do it.

colorado_rob
12-20-2012, 12:50
I find it counterproductive to "pre-worry" about things, so I'll let trail worries develop and solve those real-time, on the trail in 2013.

But, I do have one current worry about my 2013 AT thru attempt: The fact that it's still only 2012! Thankfully, that will soon be rectified.

Datto
12-20-2012, 14:54
I find it counterproductive to "pre-worry" about things, so I'll let trail worries develop and solve those real-time, on the trail in 2013.

On my northbound AT thru-hike I noticed two very distinct schools of thought about thru-hiker preparation -- one approach was to just show up and start hiking and not worry about anything. Some of those people completed their thru-hikes. The other approach was from people who had done meticulous planning of their thru-hike regarding mileages and costs and schedules. Some of those people also completed their thru-hikes. I fall into the latter group because of all the Project Management blood I've acquired over a period of time.

One thing to note: All the pre-planned schedules and intentions can easily (and probably will) go out the window after a couple of days on the Trail -- Reason: Shap Himpins. Here's a photo to illustration the point:

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Here's a picture of Shap himself:

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That's not to say that planning is a complete waste of time. What the planning does is give you a reference point and a familiarity with the challenges forthcoming.


Datto

colorado_rob
12-20-2012, 15:10
On my northbound AT thru-hike I noticed two very distinct schools of thought about thru-hiker preparation -- one approach was to just show up and start hiking and not worry about anything. Some of those people completed their thru-hikes. The other approach was from people who had done meticulous planning of their thru-hike regarding mileages and costs and schedules. Some of those people also completed their thru-hikes. I fall into the latter group because of all the Project Management blood I've acquired over a period of time.
HILARIOUS pics, thanks for sharing. I, too have that Project Management blood thing going on, which is precisely why I plan on not doing much planning. I don't want my AT thru to be just an outdoor variation of my desk job (or ex-job, come next spring) !