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dukakis
01-18-2013, 09:51
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2013/01/ap-three-hikers-hurt-avalance-new-hampshire-011813/

Coffee Rules!
01-18-2013, 10:19
I'm glad no one was killed.

Robin2013AT
01-18-2013, 13:06
If anybody knows Mt Washington like I do...why did they attempt the most difficult route while an Avalanche warning was posted. Huntington Ravine is a very. very steep and dangerous route. Glad all were well but never screw around with Mt Washington. Read "Not Without Peril".

Feral Bill
01-18-2013, 13:23
If anybody knows Mt Washington like I do...why did they attempt the most difficult route while an Avalanche warning was posted. Huntington Ravine is a very. very steep and dangerous route. Glad all were well but never screw around with Mt Washington. Read "Not Without Peril".
The article posted made no mention of avalanche warnings or Huntington Ravine. Do you have a source of further information?

hikerboy57
01-18-2013, 13:28
The article posted made no mention of avalanche warnings or Huntington Ravine. Do you have a source of further information?

more details

http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/Several-hurt-in-avalanche-on-Mt-Washington/-/9857858/18179664/-/9lljsmz/-/index.html

peakbagger
01-18-2013, 13:37
Please note, this was a group of technical ice climbers on a technical route, not "hikers". There were advisories in effect that avalanches could occur in the area.

Feral Bill
01-18-2013, 14:01
5:00 PM and they were still going up? Is it usual for climbers there to plan on descending in the dark?

Slo-go'en
01-18-2013, 15:20
5:00 PM and they were still going up? Is it usual for climbers there to plan on descending in the dark?

Pretty hard not to this time of year. What most people don't realise is how ideal avalanch conditions are around here. Freeze/thaw cycles produce mulitple shear layers which can let go at any time. Plus we just had a lot of freash snow after a four day thaw which expidentually increased the risk. The route they were taking is prone to avalanches. They were really stupid to ignor the warnings. They should definately be made to pay for this rescue.

hikerboy57
01-18-2013, 15:27
Pretty hard not to this time of year. What most people don't realise is how ideal avalanch conditions are around here. Freeze/thaw cycles produce mulitple shear layers which can let go at any time. Plus we just had a lot of freash snow after a four day thaw which expidentually increased the risk. The route they were taking is prone to avalanches. They were really stupid to ignor the warnings. They should definately be made to pay for this rescue.

in additon one of the worst times to be climbing avalanche prone areas is late afternoon after the sun had helped with that thaw/freeze cycle.you dont want to be on snowfileds late in the day.a shame the money they wer hoping to raise would go for their own rescue.

nitewalker
01-18-2013, 15:43
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20130117/NEWS07/130119220

nitewalker
01-18-2013, 15:46
From the "Ascents of Honor" Facebook page:


UPDATE: Unfortunately our summit bid was unsuccessful. As we approached the top of Huntington Ravine, a slab avalanche broke loose and swept three of our climbers down to the bottom of the ravine. They were injured, but able to slowly make their way to rescuers, who assisted them off the mountain. The other nine climbers were able to descend and walk out of the ravine on their own power. While this is certainly not the outcome we had hoped for, we are thankful that all in our party are safely off the mountain. We extend a heartfelt thanks to the US Forest Service and local Mountain Rescue Service personnel for their assistance, and look forward to sharing more details after we all get some rest. Thank you all for your support throughout this project!

nitewalker
01-18-2013, 15:48
more stuff from views from the top...

The report linked in my previous post states that there was an 11-member support team and the party of 12 was roped in teams of 3. There is no info on the skills of the support team--they could have been anything from beginners to certified guides.

That said, 12 people (in 4 teams) is a lot to put in a single gully. The gully isn't very wide and the lower teams are in the line-of-fire for anything knocked off by the upper teams. (Small to medium (eg several liter) chunks of ice are often knocked off by ice climbers.) Teams often wait for those above to completely clear the gully before starting. (None of the accounts say how many teams were in the gully at the time of the accident.)

<speculation>
There is a high probability that one of the climbers triggered the slab avalanche that caught the 3 victims.
</speculation>

Info on Central Gully (rated easy (NEI 1)--depending on the conditions, it is a 45 degree snow climb with up to 1 or 2 pitches of ice.)
http://www.summitpost.org/central-gully/168446
http://www.chauvinguides.com/hunticeguide2.htm

This is a TR of s ski descent, but it has some very nice pics of/in the gully.
http://www.famousinternetskiers.com/...ington-ravine/ (http://www.famousinternetskiers.com/trip-reports/07-08/central-gully-huntington-ravine/)

Doug

MyName1sMud
01-18-2013, 15:59
Please note, this was a group of technical ice climbers on a technical route, not "hikers". There were advisories in effect that avalanches could occur in the area.
What is the old saying?

Play stupid games...... win stupid prizes?

nitewalker
01-18-2013, 16:09
What is the old saying?

Play stupid games...... win stupid prizes?


thats the way i see it after reading some of the accounts. bravado got in the way of common sense..

MyName1sMud
01-18-2013, 16:19
thats the way i see it after reading some of the accounts. bravado got in the way of common sense..
Yeah. Exactly.

If you're warned not to do something due to something that can kill you on the verge of happening.... don't do it even if you think you are the best.

GLIDER304GUIDER
01-18-2013, 16:46
5:00 PM and they were still going up? Is it usual for climbers there to plan on descending in the dark?

Not that uncommon on those routes to top out that time of day. Once topped out it's just a long hike back in the dark to the parking lot. It's is a risky sport, you just have to pick the proper time when the conditions are good. Problem up there is that the conditions are rarely ideal. 100 mile per hour winds on top are very common in the winter time on Mt Washington.

nitewalker
01-18-2013, 17:14
Not that uncommon on those routes to top out that time of day. Once topped out it's just a long hike back in the dark to the parking lot. It's is a risky sport, you just have to pick the proper time when the conditions are good. Problem up there is that the conditions are rarely ideal. 100 mile per hour winds on top are very common in the winter time on Mt Washington.

if u plan on toping out on huntington ravine in the dark during winter then u better have some serious skills to decend from that point. sure there are many trails to choose from to get down but only so many lead back to the spot u need to go. if any type of front movs in then all bets are off. im not saying your gonna be doomed but dont make any wrong turns or it may be a long nite...most mountaineering accidents hapen on the way down. just sayin!!

nitewalker
01-18-2013, 18:11
todays avalache report along with yesterdays report. in thursdays report it mentions the avalanche danger increasing as the day went on..

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Avalanche Advisory for Friday, January 18, 2013 (http://www.mountwashingtonavalanchecenter.org/2013/01/18/avalanche-advisory-for-friday-january-18-2013/)

Jan 182013
Tuckerman Ravine has Moderate and Low avalanche danger. Right Gully, the Sluice, Lip, Center Bowl, and Chute have Moderate avalanche danger. Natural avalanches are unlikely and human triggered avalanches are possible. Evaluate snow and terrain carefully to identify features of concern. Lobster Claw, Left Gully, Hillman’s Highway, Lower Snowfields, and the Little Headwall have Low avalanche danger. Natural and human triggered avalanches are unlikely except in isolated terrain features.
Huntington Ravine has Moderate and Low avalanche danger. Yale, Central, Pinnacle, and Odell Gully have Moderate avalanche danger. Natural avalanches are unlikely and human triggered avalanches are possible. All other areas have Low avalanche danger. Natural avalanches are unlikely except in isolated terrain features.
In the last two days, Mt. Washington has received just shy of 6” (15cm) of new snow. 3.6” (9cm) of this fell yesterday, which was greater than the forecasted amounts. During this time, W and NW winds were quite strong, gusting into the 80’s and 90’s mph (130-145kph). These did a great job of moving snow around in the ravines and creating stability problems. One very lucky party was avalanched from the top of Central Gully late in the day as they climbed through this newly deposited soft slab. More details will be posted tonight on our Weekend Update section of our website and on our Search and Rescue page.
Bright blue skies this morning are allowing good visibility, though some new blowing snow is obscuring the very top of Central. This shouldn’t amount to much additional loading during the day, so this fact places the emphasis for today on the potential for human triggers. Currently, lots of old, gray snow is visible with fresh white patches of new windslab scattered around. These areas are in the lee of terrain features that often lower the windspeed enough for wind transported snow to be deposited but also in swales and other irregularities in the snowpack. Expect the usual strong degree of spatial variability as you move around today. Examples of the most windloaded locations include in Central Gully above the ice bulge, in pinch points in Odell and Yale, and all the snowfields in Tuckerman across the Lip and Center Bowl. This is not to say other areas are without hazard, so pay attention even in areas rated Low today.
Other areas to consider are the transitions from steep to flat where sluffing snow has accumulated at the base of ice and rock faces as well as at the near the tops of gullies. Given the rounded nature of our geologically elderly terrain, the tops of gullies are often less pronounced than more youthful mountains. So instead of an obvious overhanging cornice, you may encounter gradually steepening snow which has been deposited in the wind rotor created at the “edge” of the ravine. These areas are also features that you should assess very carefully and possibly avoid.
Cold temperatures last night, (-21F, -30C on the summit) have started freezing up the water running through drainage channels. I doubt that the process is complete so be on the lookout for ice dams if you brave the cold today to do an ice climb. The Little Headwall showed an open channel from top to bottom yesterday and snow is now skimmed over what is likely to be a thin veneer of ice. This condition is likely to be encountered on climbs like North, Damnation, Yale, Central ice bulge, Pinnacle…basically all the ice climbs in Huntington plus ice flows in Tuckerman.
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Safe travel in avalanche terrain requires training and experience. This advisory is just one tool to help you make your own decisions in avalanche terrain. You control your own risk by choosing where, when, and how you travel.
Anticipate a changing avalanche danger when actual weather differs from the higher summits forecast.
For more information contact the Forest Service Snow Rangers, the AMC at the Pinkham Notch Visitor Center, or the caretakers at Hermit Lake Shelters or the Harvard Cabin.
Posted 8:30a.m., Friday, January 18, 2013. A new advisory will be issued tomorrow.

Jeff Lane, Snow Ranger
USDA Forest Service
White Mountain National Forest
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Posted by Frank Carus (http://www.mountwashingtonavalanchecenter.org/author/fcarus/) at 8:45 am Avalanche Advisory for Thursday 1-17-2013 (http://www.mountwashingtonavalanchecenter.org/2013/01/17/avalanche-advisory-for-thursday-1-17-2013/)

Jan 172013
Expires at midnight Thursday 1-17-2013
Tuckerman Ravine has CONSIDERABLE, MODERATE, and LOW avalanche danger. The Lip, Center Bowl and Chute have Considerable avalanche danger. Natural avalanches are possible and human triggered avalanches are likely. Right Gully, the Sluice, Left Gully, and Hillman’s Highway have Moderate avalanche danger. Natural avalanches are unlikely and human triggered avalanches are possible. The Lobster Claw, the Lower Snowfields, and the Little Headwall have Low avalanche danger. Natural and human triggered avalanches are unlikely except in isolated terrain features.
Huntington Ravine has MODERATE avalanche danger. Natural avalanches are unlikely and human triggered avalanches are possible.
The mountain picked up a few inches of snow yesterday with up to another couple forecasted today. We anticipate some brief shots of high intensity squalls this morning before getting into a clearing trend later in the afternoon. SW and W winds between 40-60 mph (65-96kph) overnight were perfect loading speeds for our east facing Ravines. These W winds will increase in velocity to 60-80mph (96-129kph) before retreating to 50-70 (80-112kph) later. This all translates into an increasing avalanche danger that began yesterday and should peak at the tail end of today’s regional snow squalls. The areas of most concern are the largest E facing slopes of Tuckerman’s Center Bowl. As you move away from the center towards the Chute and the Sluice you will likely find more variability with both old icy surfaces and freshly deposited slabs. In Huntington you should find a tremendous amount of spatial variability within each gully. The recent thaw turned several gullies into shoe string ribbons going up the Ravine. Therefore, it won’t take a lot of snow to generate pockets that are wall to wall in multiple pinch points that will be difficult to avoid. So prepare to be on hard icy surfaces one minute and into new slab the next. Expect all snow that is not the old concrete from the recent warm up to be harboring weak layers and varying degrees of instability. Also anticipate bonding at the interface between the icy surfaces and the new low density slabs to be poor. With increasing winds and more snow today I would also be ready for new crystals to become beat up and fragmented packing into denser slabs over pockets of unconsolidated snow that were deposited yesterday. Due to the slick nature of the old bed surfaces you can expect frequent spindrift sluffing again today perhaps build into slabs on mid-slope benches such as in Odell, Pinnacle and Central. Because of all this you will probably find some slopes on the upper end of the Moderate rating in several locales in the Huntington gullies.
In addition to the hazard of avalanches also keep in mind the potential for long sliding falls on the hard slick surfaces found in many locations. As mentioned yesterday, if you fall anywhere expect to gain speed quickly and hit earthly objects because clear run-outs just don’t exist. Also be ready for an arctic blast of very cold air bringing the mercury down to -10 F (-23C) today and -20 F (-29C) tonight. Climbing in these conditions is rugged and where one small issue can snowball into something much worse. Although this isn’t a recommendation for soloing I am personally quite wary of doing anything roped in these temperatures, because no matter how fast you are “roped = slow” for most of us. A slight temperature reprieve for the first half of the holiday weekend should occur before diving back into very cold air Sunday night for several days.

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Safe travel in avalanche terrain requires training and experience. This advisory is just one tool to help you make your own decisions in avalanche terrain. You control your own risk by choosing where, when, and how you travel.
Anticipate a changing avalanche danger when actual weather differs from the higher summits forecast.
For more information contact the Forest Service Snow Rangers, the AMC at the Pinkham Notch Visitor Center, or the caretakers at Hermit Lake Shelters or the Harvard Cabin.Posted 8:23a.m. 1-17-2013. A new advisory will be issued tomorrow.

Christopher Joosen, Snow Ranger
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