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Sarcasm the elf
02-24-2013, 13:35
I know that this article isn't hiking related, but I thought some of the folks on the site might find it interesting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21537988

The babies who nap in sub-zero [Celsius] temperatures

By Helena Lee

Would you put your baby or toddler outside in the freezing cold for their lunchtime nap? Most Nordic parents wouldn't give it a second thought. For them it's part of their daily routine.

Daytime temperatures this winter in Stockholm have regularly dropped to -5C (23F) but it's still common to see children left outside by their parents for a sleep in the pram.

Wander through the snowy city and you'll see buggies lined up outside coffee shops while parents sip on lattes inside.

And if you are visiting friends and your child needs a nap, you may be offered the garden or balcony instead of a bedroom.

"I think it's good for them to be in the fresh air as soon as possible," says Lisa Mardon, a mother-of-three from Stockholm, who works for a food distribution company.

"Especially in the winter when there's lots of diseases going around... the kids seem healthier."

Her children have been sleeping outside since they were born.

The youngest, Alfred, is two and she puts him outside in the pram to nap once a day, for an hour and a half. When he was younger he slept outside twice a day.

This isn't a recent fashion. Lisa's mother, Gunilla, now 61, says she also did it with Lisa when she was a baby.

"Yes we were doing it back then as well… It was important for her to get fresh air and stay healthy," Gunilla says.

And Lisa's father, Peter, was put outside by his mother to sleep in a pram in the 1950s. Only when it got to around -10C (14F) did she bring him indoors.

Nowadays most day-care centres in Sweden put children outside to rest. It's common to see rows of prams lined up in the snow at nap-time, with youngsters fast asleep inside.

At Forskolan Orren, a pre-school outside Stockholm, all children sleep outside until they reach the age of three.

"When the temperature drops to -15C (5F) we always cover the prams with blankets," says head teacher Brittmarie Carlzon.

"It's not only the temperature that matters, it's also how cold it feels. Some days it can be -15C but it actually feels like -20C (-4F) because of the wind," she says.

"Last year we had a couple of days with a temperature of -20C. On those days we brought the prams inside some of the time the children were sleeping, but most of their sleep they spent outdoors."

One group at the pre-school spends all its time outside, from 09:00 to 15:00 every day. Out in the fresh air they do everything children normally do inside, only going inside at mealtimes, or in unusually cold weather.

The theory behind outdoor napping is that children exposed to fresh air, whether in summer or the depths of winter, are less likely to catch coughs and colds - and that spending a whole day in one room with 30 other children does them no good at all.

Many parents also believe their children sleep better and for longer in the open, and one researcher in Finland - outdoor napping is popular in all the Nordic countries - says she has evidence from a survey of parents (http://herkules.oulu.fi/isbn9789514296673/isbn9789514296673.pdf.)to back this up.

"Babies clearly slept longer outdoors than indoors," says Marjo Tourula. While indoor naps lasted between one and two hours, outdoor naps lasted from 1.5 to three hours.

"Probably the restriction of movements by clothing could increase the length of sleep, and a cold environment makes swaddling possible without overheating," she says.

According to her research, -5C is the best temperature for an outdoor nap - though some parents she spoke to even put their children out at -30C.
But do children who sleep outside end up catching fewer coughs and colds?
Paediatrician Margareta Blennow says reports from the Swedish Environmental protection agency show conflicting results.

"In some studies they found pre-schoolers who spent many hours outside generally - not just for naps - took fewer days off than those who spent most of their time indoors," she says. "In other studies there wasn't a difference."

Martin Jarnstrom, head of one of the Ur och Skur group of pre-schools , is another big advocate of outdoor naps, though he emphasises that while the weather may be cold, the child must be warm.

"It's very important that the children have wool closest to their body, warm clothes and a warm sleeping bag," he says.

There is a Swedish saying that encapsulates this thought - "There is no bad weather, only bad clothing."

Another saying sums up what Swedes are likely to think when toddlers in other countries are kept indoors in sub-zero temperatures: "A little fresh air never hurt anyone."

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Coffee Rules!
02-24-2013, 13:44
Interesting. Can you imagine the *****storm if someone did that in the States? Cops would be called, the kid would be taken away, and the parent would be blasted all over CNN and Facebook as evil.

Camel2012
02-24-2013, 13:49
I was going to say the same thing Coffee. Social services phone would be ringing off the hook.

Monkeywrench
02-24-2013, 16:20
Interesting. Can you imagine the *****storm if someone did that in the States? Cops would be called, the kid would be taken away, and the parent would be blasted all over CNN and Facebook as evil.

That's not speculation. A few years ago a couple from one of the Nordic countries was visiting New York City and left their child in the pram outside a coffee shop or restaurant and was arrested for child endangerment.

Marta
02-24-2013, 17:17
A fellow who was about the age of my grandfather, which meant he was born towards the end of the 19th century, told me once that when he was a child growing up in Massachusetts, he slept on a sleeping porch. In the winter he'd wake up to find his blankets covered with snow. Prior to the existence of antibiotics, people believed that children needed to be made strong just in order to survive. I'm still a proponent of that. :-)

JAK
02-24-2013, 18:48
Interesting. Can you imagine the *****storm if someone did that in the States? Cops would be called, the kid would be taken away, and the parent would be blasted all over CNN and Facebook as evil.http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/16/us-restaurant-baby-idUSTRE77F40V20110816

And a 27 year old women in town here was arrested in January for the very same thing, and social services took custody. Don't know the whole story, whether she was Swedish, on crack, or poor enough that she is not allowed to think for herself and make her own choices. My guess is the latter. Those social services folks, they are the experts, but they seem to only get to practice their trade in the poor neighbourhoods.

WingedMonkey
02-24-2013, 21:11
A fellow who was about the age of my grandfather, which meant he was born towards the end of the 19th century, told me once that when he was a child growing up in Massachusetts, he slept on a sleeping porch. In the winter he'd wake up to find his blankets covered with snow. Prior to the existence of antibiotics, people believed that children needed to be made strong just in order to survive. I'm still a proponent of that. :-)

One of the things I've learned from doing genealogy is about the high mortality rate of children in that century. That's one of the reasons they had so many children then.

Your grandfather is lucky to have survived.

Then again a high porportion of children died from fireplace accidents, maybe he was better off outside.

Marta
02-24-2013, 22:57
One of the things I've learned from doing genealogy is about the high mortality rate of children in that century. That's one of the reasons they had so many children then.

Your grandfather is lucky to have survived.

Then again a high porportion of children died from fireplace accidents, maybe he was better off outside.

I'm pretty sure the reason people had so many children was because they didn't have effective birth control. :-)

It's way too late for my kids to be taken away by social services (they're all adults now) so I can reveal that they slept in unheated bedrooms during their early childhoods. Old house--no central heating--unheated bedrooms. It's no big deal.

I myself sleep much, much better in a cold place. In an artificially-heated room I wake up with my mouth dry and gasping for fresh air.

tiptoe
02-25-2013, 12:10
My kids napped outside in winter in a carriage. I remember once putting a thermometer on top of the blankets. It was in the thirties, but the thermometer (in the sun and sheltered from the wind) registered a temp in the fifties. I sleep in an unheated bedroom that gets into the low thirties and generally get a great night's rest. When I visit my daughter's family in an overheated nyc apartment, well, that's another story.