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wiremilitia
03-17-2013, 13:10
I use a Hennessy, Expedition Asym - Model 10, hammock.
I'm too lazy to make my own underquilt so am looking for a light one to buy.
These are the ones I'm considering..Anyone know if they will even fit the hammock I have? Any experience? Other suggestions?
Warbonet 3-Season Yeti, torso length (12.5oz, $180)
Wilderness Logics 3/4 len 20 degree (20 oz, $175)
bigcranky
03-17-2013, 14:16
I met a guy in Georgia in March a couple of years ago using a torso size underquilt with his Warbonnet. Seemed very well made, but he was freezing every night. If I were choosing an underquilt for cold weather, I would want one full length rather than 3/4 or torso. (If this is for summer use, feel free to ignore this advice.)
The classic JRB Nest (http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/the-nest/) works very well with a Hennessy Hammock, especially if you use the bottom entry.
wiremilitia
03-17-2013, 16:02
(If this is for summer use, feel free to ignore this advice.)
The classic JRB Nest (http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/the-nest/) works very well with a Hennessy Hammock, especially if you use the bottom entry.
I am indeed planning to hike only in the warmest summer months. Also, the weight savings outweights true comfort for me on this.
JRB hadn't hit my radar. This one looks most promising:
JRB Greylock 3 (14oz, $180) http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/greylock-3/
Thanks for the link and recomendation on fit for Hennesy.
Doc Mike
03-17-2013, 17:00
Jrb +1 ...............
bigcranky
03-17-2013, 19:36
OK, in the warmest summer months is the only time I use my hammock. I take a 3/4 Ridgerest pad and use it inside the hammock to keep my torso warm. Works very well. Plus it makes a great pad for use at breaks and lunch. (Can't do that with an underquilt :) ) It's around 10 ounces and costs maybe $30.
sonnynGA
03-26-2013, 21:38
I use a Hammock Gear 3/4 with my HH and have been very happy. In fact, bought a second one last year for my daughter.
kayak karl
03-26-2013, 21:55
i use a Tewa zero degree 3/4 quilt and been to 0 just fine. have A JRB Mt Wash 4 full length zero degree and have been to -10 just fine. i also have 3 other JRB quilts 20-40 degrees. all of these i used on my HH ultra hammock.
full or 3/4 are fine if you know what you are doing. if not, stick with a full length.
KK
ewmccraw
04-07-2013, 11:32
I bought a "New River" UQ from Arrowhead Equipment. $155.00 for a regular length quilt (up to 6' tall) I really like it a lot and it is very lightweight. I sleep a little warm, so this quilt has taken me down to 27* with sweats and wool socks.
Hi.. I'm not convinced yet to go with a hammock. How do you deal with rain? Seeing what you still need to take to sleep in it, why do you consider it better than a tent?
bigcranky
04-07-2013, 13:48
Hi.. I'm not convinced yet to go with a hammock. How do you deal with rain? Seeing what you still need to take to sleep in it, why do you consider it better than a tent?
Rain: use a large tarp suspended above the hammock. It's actually a lot *more* protection than a tent, since you don't have to worry about water on the ground. In a bad storm I'd rather be in a hammock.
Why: comfort. A hammock is the best night's sleep I can get in the backcountry.
I still use a tent in cold weather, because a hammock setup is more expensive and heavier than my tarptent/winter bag setup. But it's not as comfortable.
wiremilitia
04-09-2013, 18:42
i use a Tewa zero degree 3/4 quilt and been to 0 just fine. have A JRB Mt Wash 4 full length zero degree and have been to -10 just fine. i also have 3 other JRB quilts 20-40 degrees. all of these i used on my HH ultra hammock.
full or 3/4 are fine if you know what you are doing. if not, stick with a full length.
KK
My main concerns are pack size and weight.
....
Is your TE-WA bulky?:-?
The rep at TE-WA I talked with said they provide a gallon and a half-gallon sack; "you may compress with a suitable sack at your risk".
TE-WA makes the lightest 40° rated UQ... I cant have a lightweight uq the size of a gallon of milk though!
SOBO_Pace
04-09-2013, 19:09
I used a WB yeti 3 season (+2 oz overfill) last year on my thru. It is a awesome UQ. The winter one is really nice too (my buddy used it with his HH). They are made very well and shipping was fast. They have really nice hammocks too. I only saw 2 other WB hammocks over 5 months. May suggest some whoppies too.
SOBO_Pace
04-09-2013, 19:15
I did have to carry a small piece of foam for my feet when it got colder out but it weighed very little and was nice around camp or breaks. I also was able to turn my down jacket into a foot UQ for some of the trip.
I used mine down to zero and was fine with this setup.
wiremilitia
04-10-2013, 12:02
I decided on the Warbonnet 3-Season Yeti (3/4 len).
Some of my reasons:
Lightest 20° rated UQ. (12.5oz)
Highly recommended.
I found videos showing it is reasonably compressible.
Simple design.
Heres are reasons I didn't go with other brands suggested:
JRB:
It's dishonest to advertise UQ weights and not mention the included stuff sack is +1.2oz!
Jack's name should be Dick the way he talked on the phone.
Website is disorganized, description and specs pages show different weights not sure which is right.
Hammock Gear
All are too heavy.
New River
All are too heavy.
Tewa
Just a bit heavier than WB (looks like a great second option).
Wilderness Logics
All are too heavy.
wiremilitia
04-10-2013, 12:09
Heres my list of perspective UQs I considered and some notes I took on them.
Hope this helps someone else.
Brand
Name
Temp
Compressed Size
Weight
Price
Link
Note
Hammock Gear
Phoenix Fractional UnderQuilts
40°
13.1
$144.00
http://www.hammockgear.com/under-quilts/
Like different suspension / but get 20° at less weight
Hammock Gear
Phoenix Fractional UnderQuilts
20°
17.5
$179.00
http://www.hammockgear.com/under-quilts/
NO, Too Heavy
Hammock Gear
Phoenix Fractional UnderQuilts
0°
21.75
$219.00
http://www.hammockgear.com/under-quilts/
NO, Too Heavy / Like different suspension
Hammock Gear
Incubator Full-Length UnderQuilts
40°
22.1
$209.00
http://www.hammockgear.com/under-quilts/
NO, Too Heavy / Like different suspension
Hammock Gear
Incubator Full-Length UnderQuilts
20°
26.5
$239.00
http://www.hammockgear.com/under-quilts/
NO, Too Heavy / Like different suspension
Hammock Gear
Incubator Full-Length UnderQuilts
0°
30.75
$264.00
http://www.hammockgear.com/under-quilts/
NO, Too Heavy / Like different suspension
Jacks Are Better
Torso Len Greylock 3
20°
7x7x5
14
$179.95
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/greylock-3/
add 1.2oz for compress sack.
Jacks Are Better
Torso Len Greylock 4
7x7x5
18
$219.95
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/greylock-4/
NO, Too Heavy & add 1.2oz for compress sack.
Jacks Are Better
The Nest
25°
7x7x8
21
$259.95
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/the-nest/
NO, Too Heavy & add 1.2oz for compress sack.
Jacks Are Better
Mt Washington 3
20°
8x8x10
21
$269.95
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/mt-washington/
NO, Too Heavy & add 1.2oz for compress sack.
Jacks Are Better
Winter Nest
5°
8x8x10
26
$289.95
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/winter-nest/
NO, Too Heavy & add 1.2oz for compress sack.
Jacks Are Better
Mt Washington 4
0°
8x8x10
27
$299.95
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/mt-washington-4/
NO, Too Heavy & add 1.2oz for compress sack.
New River
New River Regular
30°
30
$155.00
http://www.arrowhead-equipment.com/kick-ass-quilts.html
NO, Too Heavy
New River
New River Long
30°
32
$160.00
http://www.arrowhead-equipment.com/kick-ass-quilts.html
NO, Too Heavy
Potomac
Potomac
30°
28
$189.00
http://www.arrowhead-equipment.com/kick-ass-quilts.html
NO, Too Heavy / Like made for Hennessy
Tewa
Breeze (3/4 len)
40°
gallon & half gallon
10.5
$135.00
http://www.tewaunderquilts.com/
3. Lightest 40° / bulky? / May get for summer
Tewa
ANTIFREEZE
25°
gallon & half gallon
14
$189.00
http://www.tewaunderquilts.com/
2. Lightest Full Length / bulky? / Try if need full len
Tewa
Flurry
2°
19
$259.00
http://www.tewaunderquilts.com/
NO, Too Heavy
Warbonnet
3-Season Yeti (3/4 len)
20°
12.5
$180.00
http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/quilts.php
1. YES, Lightest 20°
Warbonnet
Lynx (3/4 len)
20°
12.8
$180.00
http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/quilts.php
seems good, but don't need extra weight.
Warbonnet
Lynx (3-season Full-Length)
20°
17.2
$240.00
http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/quilts.php
NO, Too Heavy
Warbonnet
Lynx (winter-torso length)
0°
18
$215.00
http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/quilts.php
NO, Too Heavy
Warbonnet
Winter Yeti
0°
18.5
$210.00
http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/quilts.php
NO, Too Heavy
Warbonnet
Lynx (winter full-length)
0°
23.5
$265.00
http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/quilts.php
NO, Too Heavy
Wilderness Logics
"Under Quilt (Down)" 3/4 Length
20°
7x4
20
$175.00
http://wildernesslogics.com/Under-Quilt-Down-3-4-Length-Under-Quilt-Down.htm
NO, Too Heavy
Wilderness Logics
FULL UNDER QUILT
10°
27
$235.00
http://wildernesslogics.com/FULL-UNDER-QUILT-FULL-LENGTH-DOWN.htm
NO, Too Heavy
I have the hammock gear incubator 0* model for winter. I have a Kick-Ass-Quilt DIY that I made out of climashield and m50 that I think is made by arrowhead equipment (instructions online) that's good to 40* (weighs 1.75 pounds in its sack). Both work nicely. True, you could probably get an inflatable pad for less that's lighter. An underquilt will never go flat on you and feels far better than a pad. Plus it's more even warmth. Ive sweated through my back on a pad and been freezing on top. I swapped out my 2.75 sleeping bag for a 1.5 pound top quilt rated the same (20*).
Hammock camping, to me, seems a little bulkier and a little heavier than tent camping. But the comfort level makes up for it.
kayak karl
04-12-2013, 07:17
0 degree is 20 oz. it's down and as bulky? as other down stuff. maybe get a bigger pack. nothing worst in single digits trying to get gear compressed.