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Is there a trail guide for the Pinhoti similar to AWOL's AT guide? I need something that shows profiles, water sources and shelters!
Thanks
http://www.pinhotitrailalliance.org/sitemap.html Solo use to make a trail guide but you can get all of the info from his site.
al_stargazer
08-19-2013, 19:58
I have used the information from Pinhoti Trail Alliance. Very informative
blisterbob
08-19-2013, 21:25
pinhotitrailalliance.org is a little outdated but still the most accurate overall of anything I have seen.
If you click on the etrail description, it is printable and the same info as the pocket guide that is no longer available.
Thanks you! Much appreciated!
I have an elevation profile that I will try to share tomorrow.
Also the PTA site seems to be down. Let's hope this is temporary.
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blisterbob
08-21-2013, 07:12
I could pull up a cached copy of the info on the PTA website this AM.
Drybones
08-21-2013, 07:27
6.5 ~ WEOGUFKA, AL
96.9 ~ SPRING / BOG CROSSING
6.7 ~ TOODLIN'S GROCERY / CR 41 FORK
98.5 ~ FS 518 CROSSING ~ 1080'
12.9 ~ CR 41 FORK
99.0 ~ CAMPSITE / SPRING CROSSING
13.1 ~ AL 21 / CR 41 TRAILHEAD
100.5 ~ CAMPSITE / SPRING CROSSING
13.1 ~ AL 21 / CR 41 TRAILHEAD
101.0 ~ I-20 CROSSING ~ 1074'
13.3 ~ PASS CR 74
102.0 ~ CREEK CROSSING
13.8 ~ PASS HIGH TENSION POWER LINE
102.1 ~ GREENSTONE SHELTER (proposed) ~ LC, TS
15.1 ~ PASS CR 74
102.3 ~ RIO GRANDE CROSSING
15.2 ~ US 280 CROSSING
103.3 ~ AL 281 CROSSING ~ 990'
16.7 ~ PASS CR 66
104.4 ~ CAMPSITE
18.6 ~ CR 511
105.0 ~ SPRING CROSSING
20.4 ~ PASS ROCKY TOWER ROAD
105.6 ~ TRANSPONDER POWER LINE ~ 1200’
20.9 ~ TRAMMEL MOTORWAY / FS 603
105.8 ~ POWER LINE CROSSING ~ 1100'
21.0 ~ NORFOLK SOUTHERN RR CROSSING
106.0 ~ US 78 BRIDGE – HEFLIN ~ 935'
21.3 ~ POWER LINE CROSSING
106.2 ~ SOUTH FS 500 TRAILHEAD ~ 935’
21.8 ~ FS 603 / END OF PAVEMENT
106.2 ~ SOUTH FS 500 TRAILHEAD ~ 935'
22.3 ~ FS 603A
106.5 ~ FS 500 CROSSING ~ 1050'
22.9 ~ FS 603A TRAILHEAD
107.6 ~ 108.0 ~ 3 SPRING CROSSINGS
22.9 ~ FS 603A TRAILHEAD
108.2 ~ BIRDS IN THE PINES CAMPSITE
23.5 ~ FS 603
108.4 ~ 108.9 ~ 2 SPRING CROSSINGS
26.1 ~ AL 148
109.6 ~ FS 523 CROSSING ~ 1180'
34.2 ~ OLD ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROAD
110.3 ~ SPRING CROSSING
34.3 ~ BULL GAP TRAILHEAD / AL 148 ~ 1241'
112.4 ~ HOLLY SPRING CROSSING
34.3 ~ BULL GAP TRAILHEAD / AL 148 ~ 1241’
112.8 ~ FS 531 CROSSING ~ 1222'
36.5 ~ POWER LINE CROSSING ~ 1780’
114.0 ~ LOWER SHOAL SHELTER
37.5 ~ FS 600 CROSSING
115.8 ~ CAMPSITE
38.0 ~ FS 600 CROSSING
116.0 ~ 116.3 ~ 2 SPRING CROSSINGS
41.9 ~ SHERMAN CLIFFS ~ 1700’
116.7 ~ CREEK CROSSING
42.6 ~ FS ROAD
116.9 ~ EAGLE BRIDGE
42.7 ~ FS ROAD TURN OFF
117.2 ~ FS 531 CROSSING ~ 812'
44.1 ~ POWER LINE
117.5 ~ HIGHROCK LAKE ~ 880'
44.2 – HORN MOUNTAIN FIRE TOWER AND CCC PICNIC SHELTER ~ 1912’
117.7 ~ CAMPSITE
45.4 ~ WORMY’S PULPIT ~ 1640’
119.2 ~ 119.3 ~ 2 SPRING CROSSINGS
45.6 ~ FS 600 CROSSING / MICRO TOWER ~ 1585’
119.8 ~ PINE GLEN CAMPGROUND ~ 946'
46.3 ~ FS 600 CROSSING ~ 1580’
119.8 ~ PINE GLEN CAMPGROUND ~ 950'
46.4 ~ NORTH RIDGE SWITCHBACKS ~ 1585’
122.4 ~ SWEETWATER LAKE DAM ~ 1000’
48.7 ~ CREEK FORD ~ 720’
122.8 ~ SWEETWATER LAKE PARKING AREA
48.7 ~ SCOTT’S CASCADE ~ 710’
124.4 ~ LAUREL SHELTER ~ 1100’
48.8 ~ SCOTT LAKE ~ 730’
125.8 ~ FS 553 CROSSING ~ 1220’
49.4 ~ SPRING CROSSING
126.1 ~ SHOAL CREEK CHURCH ~ 1180’
52.3 ~ PORTER’S GAP TRAILHEAD / AL 77
127.0 ~ COLEMAN LAKE ~ 1160’
52.3 ~ PORTER'S GAP TRAILHEAD / AL 77
127.7 ~ COLEMAN LAKE TRAILHEAD ~ 1200’
55.5 ~ SKYWAY ROAD ~ 858’
127.7 ~ FS 500 CROSSING ~ 1200’
55.7 ~ TALLADEGA CREEK BRIDGE – 843’
129.5 ~ FS 540 CROSSING ~ 1325’
55.9 ~ FS 600 TURNOFF ~ 870'
130.4 ~ CHIPMUNK CANYON
56.4 ~ CAMPSITE ~ 1130'
134.6 ~ CHOCCOLOCCO CREEK WATERSHED
57.2 ~ FS 600 CROSSING ~ 1410'
134.7 ~ CHOCCOLOCCO CREEK SHELTER
57.5 ~ CAMPSITE / SPRING CROSSING
136.1 ~ BURNS TRAILHEAD / CR 55 ~ 846’
58.6 ~ FS 600 CROSSING ~ 1480'
136.1 ~ BURNS TRAILHEAD / CR 55 ~ 846'
58.9 ~ SPRING CROSSING ~ 1400'
136.2 ~ SOUTH DUGGER MOUNTAIN WILDERNESS BOUNDARY
59.1 ~ ROCK GARDEN ~ 1410’
138.8 ~ JONES BRANCH ROAD ~ 1240'
61.2 ~ CLAIRMONT GAP ~ 1356'
138.9 ~ LAUREL PASSAGE
63.7 ~ FS 600 CROSSING ~ 1580'
140.1 ~ CAMPSITE
64.4 ~ FS 600 CROSSING ~ 1750'
140.4 ~ DUGGER (TURKEY) GAP ~ 1500'
66.2 ~ DOUBLE SPRING CROSS ~ 1260'
140.5 ~ ROCKY TOP 6
67.6 ~ SKYWAY LOOP TRAIL ~ 1400'
141.5 ~ ROCKY TOP 7
67.8 ~ ADAMS GAP TRAILHEAD / AL 281 ~ 1457'
142.5 ~ DUGGER MOUNTAIN FIRE TOWER ~ 2140'
67.8 ~ ADAMS GAP TRAILHEAD / AL 281 ~ 1457'
144.3 ~ NORTH DUGGER FLATS ~ 1100'
67.9 ~ SOUTH CHEAHA WILDERNESS BOUNDARY
144.8 ~ NORTH DUGGER MOUNTAIN WILDERNESS BOUNDARY
69.0 ~ 70.3 ~ 6 SPRING CROSSINGS ~ 1360'
144.9 ~ NORTH FS 500 TRAILHEAD ~ 860'
70.9 ~ CAMPSITE ~ 1380'
144.9 ~ NORTH FS 500 TRAILHEAD ~ 860'
71.0 ~ SPRING CROSSING ~ 1360'
145.0 ~ NORTH DUGGER MOUNTAIN SHELTER
71.3 ~ SIGN BOARD ~ 1460'
147.3 ~ TERRAPIN CREEK WATERSHED
71.5 ~ SIGN BOARD ~ 1575'
149.5 ~ OAKEY MOUNTAIN CROSSING ~ 1720'
72.2 ~ HEAVEN / ROCKY TOP 4 ~ 2135'
150.0 ~ NORTH OAKEY CAMPSITE
72.6 ~ 73.2 ~ 3 CAMPSITES ~ 2100'
151.3 ~ OAKEY MOUNTAIN SHELTER
73.3 ~ SPRING CROSSING ~ 2140'
151.7 ~ SPRING CROSSING
73.6 ~ CAMPSITE ~ 2120'
152.8 ~ CHIEF LADIGA RAIL TRAIL / CLT MILE 7.0 ~ LC, RW, HS
73.7 ~ SPRING CROSSING ~ 2120'
153.0 ~ TERRAPIN CREEK BRIDGE ~ 767'
73.8 ~ LITTLE CANEY HEAD ~ 2100'
153.3 ~ CHIEF LADIGA RAIL TRAIL / CLT MILE 6.5
75.4 ~ CAVE CREEK TRAIL CONNECTOR ~ 2200'
153.4 ~ CR 94 CROSSING ~ 780'
76.9 ~ McDILL OVERLOOK TRAIL ~ 1940'
153.5 ~ 94 CAMPSITE ~ 850'
77.4 ~ CAMPSITE ~ 2060'
153.7 ~ 94 SPRING CROSSING ~ 920'
77.8 ~ NORTH CHEAHA WILDERNESS BOUNDARY
155.0 ~ MAXWELL GAP / CR 70 ~ 1156'
78.0 ~ HERNANDEZ PEAK ~ 2344'
157.1 ~ AUGUSTA MINE RIDGE TURNOFF ~ 1590'
78.5 ~ CAMPSITE ~ 2140’
157.4 ~ LANIE GAP ~ 1460'
79.1 ~ CHEAHA TRAILHEAD ~ AL 281 ~ 1940’
160.3 ~ LANIE CREEK FORD ~ 900'
79.1 ~ CHEAHA TRAILHEAD ~ AL 281 ~ 1940'
161.1 ~ HIGH POINT TRAILHEAD / US 278 ~ 800'
79.3 ~ CHEAHA STATE PARK
161.1 ~ HIGH POINT TRAILHEAD / US 278
81.1 ~ SPRING CROSSING ~ 1700'
161.5 ~ ATA SECTION DEDICATION MARKER
81.2 ~ BLUE MOUNTAIN SHELTER ~ 1825'
162.7 ~ DAVIS MOUNTAIN SWITCHBACKS
84.3 ~ CCC ROAD / OLD CHEAHA ROAD ~ 1305' ~ Large Camp, Seasonal Water
163.1 ~ DAVIS MOUNTAIN SHELTER
87.3 ~ HILLABEE CREEK FORD ~ 780'
164.1 ~ WOODS ROAD
90.8 ~ FRIENDSHIP CAMPSITE ~ 820'
166.0 ~ HURRICANE CREEK BRIDGE
91.5 ~ CR 24 CROSSING ~ 838'
166.1 ~ SALEM CHURCH ROAD CROSSING / CR 8
91.6 ~ MORGAN CASCADE
166.5 ~ HAWKINS HOLLOW
92.6 ~ FS ROAD ~ 900’
166.6 ~ CREEK BRIDGE
93.3 ~ FS ROAD CROSSING ~ 900'
166.7 ~ HAWKINS HOLLOW TENT PLATFORM
94.0 ~ LARGE CASCADE
168.2 ~ 1500 FOOT OVERLOOK ~ 1500'
94.9 ~ FS 515 - WATTS MOTORWAY CROSSING
169.1 ~ 1700 FOOT OVERLOOK ~ 1700'
95.7 ~ HORSEBLOCK FLATS CROSSING ~ 760'
170.2 ~ FLAG POLE MOUNTAIN ~ 1968'
96.7 ~ US 431 TRAILHEAD / FS 585 ~ 885'
170.7 ~ DR. TOM McGEHEE MEMORIAL
96.7 ~ US 431 TRAILHEAD / FS 585 ~ 885'
171.2 ~ ALABAMA / GEORGIA STATE LINE
Drybones
08-21-2013, 07:29
6.5 ~ WEOGUFKA, AL
96.9 ~ SPRING / BOG CROSSING
6.7 ~ TOODLIN'S GROCERY / CR 41 FORK
98.5 ~ FS 518 CROSSING ~ 1080'
12.9 ~ CR 41 FORK
99.0 ~ CAMPSITE / SPRING CROSSING
13.1 ~ AL 21 / CR 41 TRAILHEAD
100.5 ~ CAMPSITE / SPRING CROSSING
13.1 ~ AL 21 / CR 41 TRAILHEAD
101.0 ~ I-20 CROSSING ~ 1074'
13.3 ~ PASS CR 74
102.0 ~ CREEK CROSSING
13.8 ~ PASS HIGH TENSION POWER LINE
102.1 ~ GREENSTONE SHELTER (proposed) ~ LC, TS
15.1 ~ PASS CR 74
102.3 ~ RIO GRANDE CROSSING
15.2 ~ US 280 CROSSING
103.3 ~ AL 281 CROSSING ~ 990'
16.7 ~ PASS CR 66
104.4 ~ CAMPSITE
18.6 ~ CR 511
105.0 ~ SPRING CROSSING
20.4 ~ PASS ROCKY TOWER ROAD
105.6 ~ TRANSPONDER POWER LINE ~ 1200’
20.9 ~ TRAMMEL MOTORWAY / FS 603
105.8 ~ POWER LINE CROSSING ~ 1100'
21.0 ~ NORFOLK SOUTHERN RR CROSSING
106.0 ~ US 78 BRIDGE – HEFLIN ~ 935'
21.3 ~ POWER LINE CROSSING
106.2 ~ SOUTH FS 500 TRAILHEAD ~ 935’
21.8 ~ FS 603 / END OF PAVEMENT
106.2 ~ SOUTH FS 500 TRAILHEAD ~ 935'
22.3 ~ FS 603A
106.5 ~ FS 500 CROSSING ~ 1050'
22.9 ~ FS 603A TRAILHEAD
107.6 ~ 108.0 ~ 3 SPRING CROSSINGS
22.9 ~ FS 603A TRAILHEAD
108.2 ~ BIRDS IN THE PINES CAMPSITE
23.5 ~ FS 603
108.4 ~ 108.9 ~ 2 SPRING CROSSINGS
26.1 ~ AL 148
109.6 ~ FS 523 CROSSING ~ 1180'
34.2 ~ OLD ROCKY MOUNTAIN ROAD
110.3 ~ SPRING CROSSING
34.3 ~ BULL GAP TRAILHEAD / AL 148 ~ 1241'
112.4 ~ HOLLY SPRING CROSSING
34.3 ~ BULL GAP TRAILHEAD / AL 148 ~ 1241’
112.8 ~ FS 531 CROSSING ~ 1222'
36.5 ~ POWER LINE CROSSING ~ 1780’
114.0 ~ LOWER SHOAL SHELTER
37.5 ~ FS 600 CROSSING
115.8 ~ CAMPSITE
38.0 ~ FS 600 CROSSING
116.0 ~ 116.3 ~ 2 SPRING CROSSINGS
41.9 ~ SHERMAN CLIFFS ~ 1700’
116.7 ~ CREEK CROSSING
42.6 ~ FS ROAD
116.9 ~ EAGLE BRIDGE
42.7 ~ FS ROAD TURN OFF
117.2 ~ FS 531 CROSSING ~ 812'
44.1 ~ POWER LINE
117.5 ~ HIGHROCK LAKE ~ 880'
44.2 – HORN MOUNTAIN FIRE TOWER AND CCC PICNIC SHELTER ~ 1912’
117.7 ~ CAMPSITE
45.4 ~ WORMY’S PULPIT ~ 1640’
119.2 ~ 119.3 ~ 2 SPRING CROSSINGS
45.6 ~ FS 600 CROSSING / MICRO TOWER ~ 1585’
119.8 ~ PINE GLEN CAMPGROUND ~ 946'
46.3 ~ FS 600 CROSSING ~ 1580’
119.8 ~ PINE GLEN CAMPGROUND ~ 950'
46.4 ~ NORTH RIDGE SWITCHBACKS ~ 1585’
122.4 ~ SWEETWATER LAKE DAM ~ 1000’
48.7 ~ CREEK FORD ~ 720’
122.8 ~ SWEETWATER LAKE PARKING AREA
48.7 ~ SCOTT’S CASCADE ~ 710’
124.4 ~ LAUREL SHELTER ~ 1100’
48.8 ~ SCOTT LAKE ~ 730’
125.8 ~ FS 553 CROSSING ~ 1220’
49.4 ~ SPRING CROSSING
126.1 ~ SHOAL CREEK CHURCH ~ 1180’
52.3 ~ PORTER’S GAP TRAILHEAD / AL 77
127.0 ~ COLEMAN LAKE ~ 1160’
52.3 ~ PORTER'S GAP TRAILHEAD / AL 77
127.7 ~ COLEMAN LAKE TRAILHEAD ~ 1200’
55.5 ~ SKYWAY ROAD ~ 858’
127.7 ~ FS 500 CROSSING ~ 1200’
55.7 ~ TALLADEGA CREEK BRIDGE – 843’
129.5 ~ FS 540 CROSSING ~ 1325’
55.9 ~ FS 600 TURNOFF ~ 870'
130.4 ~ CHIPMUNK CANYON
56.4 ~ CAMPSITE ~ 1130'
134.6 ~ CHOCCOLOCCO CREEK WATERSHED
57.2 ~ FS 600 CROSSING ~ 1410'
134.7 ~ CHOCCOLOCCO CREEK SHELTER
57.5 ~ CAMPSITE / SPRING CROSSING
136.1 ~ BURNS TRAILHEAD / CR 55 ~ 846’
58.6 ~ FS 600 CROSSING ~ 1480'
136.1 ~ BURNS TRAILHEAD / CR 55 ~ 846'
58.9 ~ SPRING CROSSING ~ 1400'
136.2 ~ SOUTH DUGGER MOUNTAIN WILDERNESS BOUNDARY
59.1 ~ ROCK GARDEN ~ 1410’
138.8 ~ JONES BRANCH ROAD ~ 1240'
61.2 ~ CLAIRMONT GAP ~ 1356'
138.9 ~ LAUREL PASSAGE
63.7 ~ FS 600 CROSSING ~ 1580'
140.1 ~ CAMPSITE
64.4 ~ FS 600 CROSSING ~ 1750'
140.4 ~ DUGGER (TURKEY) GAP ~ 1500'
66.2 ~ DOUBLE SPRING CROSS ~ 1260'
140.5 ~ ROCKY TOP 6
67.6 ~ SKYWAY LOOP TRAIL ~ 1400'
141.5 ~ ROCKY TOP 7
67.8 ~ ADAMS GAP TRAILHEAD / AL 281 ~ 1457'
142.5 ~ DUGGER MOUNTAIN FIRE TOWER ~ 2140'
67.8 ~ ADAMS GAP TRAILHEAD / AL 281 ~ 1457'
144.3 ~ NORTH DUGGER FLATS ~ 1100'
67.9 ~ SOUTH CHEAHA WILDERNESS BOUNDARY
144.8 ~ NORTH DUGGER MOUNTAIN WILDERNESS BOUNDARY
69.0 ~ 70.3 ~ 6 SPRING CROSSINGS ~ 1360'
144.9 ~ NORTH FS 500 TRAILHEAD ~ 860'
70.9 ~ CAMPSITE ~ 1380'
144.9 ~ NORTH FS 500 TRAILHEAD ~ 860'
71.0 ~ SPRING CROSSING ~ 1360'
145.0 ~ NORTH DUGGER MOUNTAIN SHELTER
71.3 ~ SIGN BOARD ~ 1460'
147.3 ~ TERRAPIN CREEK WATERSHED
71.5 ~ SIGN BOARD ~ 1575'
149.5 ~ OAKEY MOUNTAIN CROSSING ~ 1720'
72.2 ~ HEAVEN / ROCKY TOP 4 ~ 2135'
150.0 ~ NORTH OAKEY CAMPSITE
72.6 ~ 73.2 ~ 3 CAMPSITES ~ 2100'
151.3 ~ OAKEY MOUNTAIN SHELTER
73.3 ~ SPRING CROSSING ~ 2140'
151.7 ~ SPRING CROSSING
73.6 ~ CAMPSITE ~ 2120'
152.8 ~ CHIEF LADIGA RAIL TRAIL / CLT MILE 7.0 ~ LC, RW, HS
73.7 ~ SPRING CROSSING ~ 2120'
153.0 ~ TERRAPIN CREEK BRIDGE ~ 767'
73.8 ~ LITTLE CANEY HEAD ~ 2100'
153.3 ~ CHIEF LADIGA RAIL TRAIL / CLT MILE 6.5
75.4 ~ CAVE CREEK TRAIL CONNECTOR ~ 2200'
153.4 ~ CR 94 CROSSING ~ 780'
76.9 ~ McDILL OVERLOOK TRAIL ~ 1940'
153.5 ~ 94 CAMPSITE ~ 850'
77.4 ~ CAMPSITE ~ 2060'
153.7 ~ 94 SPRING CROSSING ~ 920'
77.8 ~ NORTH CHEAHA WILDERNESS BOUNDARY
155.0 ~ MAXWELL GAP / CR 70 ~ 1156'
78.0 ~ HERNANDEZ PEAK ~ 2344'
157.1 ~ AUGUSTA MINE RIDGE TURNOFF ~ 1590'
78.5 ~ CAMPSITE ~ 2140’
157.4 ~ LANIE GAP ~ 1460'
79.1 ~ CHEAHA TRAILHEAD ~ AL 281 ~ 1940’
160.3 ~ LANIE CREEK FORD ~ 900'
79.1 ~ CHEAHA TRAILHEAD ~ AL 281 ~ 1940'
161.1 ~ HIGH POINT TRAILHEAD / US 278 ~ 800'
79.3 ~ CHEAHA STATE PARK
161.1 ~ HIGH POINT TRAILHEAD / US 278
81.1 ~ SPRING CROSSING ~ 1700'
161.5 ~ ATA SECTION DEDICATION MARKER
81.2 ~ BLUE MOUNTAIN SHELTER ~ 1825'
162.7 ~ DAVIS MOUNTAIN SWITCHBACKS
84.3 ~ CCC ROAD / OLD CHEAHA ROAD ~ 1305' ~ Large Camp, Seasonal Water
163.1 ~ DAVIS MOUNTAIN SHELTER
87.3 ~ HILLABEE CREEK FORD ~ 780'
164.1 ~ WOODS ROAD
90.8 ~ FRIENDSHIP CAMPSITE ~ 820'
166.0 ~ HURRICANE CREEK BRIDGE
91.5 ~ CR 24 CROSSING ~ 838'
166.1 ~ SALEM CHURCH ROAD CROSSING / CR 8
91.6 ~ MORGAN CASCADE
166.5 ~ HAWKINS HOLLOW
92.6 ~ FS ROAD ~ 900’
166.6 ~ CREEK BRIDGE
93.3 ~ FS ROAD CROSSING ~ 900'
166.7 ~ HAWKINS HOLLOW TENT PLATFORM
94.0 ~ LARGE CASCADE
168.2 ~ 1500 FOOT OVERLOOK ~ 1500'
94.9 ~ FS 515 - WATTS MOTORWAY CROSSING
169.1 ~ 1700 FOOT OVERLOOK ~ 1700'
95.7 ~ HORSEBLOCK FLATS CROSSING ~ 760'
170.2 ~ FLAG POLE MOUNTAIN ~ 1968'
96.7 ~ US 431 TRAILHEAD / FS 585 ~ 885'
170.7 ~ DR. TOM McGEHEE MEMORIAL
96.7 ~ US 431 TRAILHEAD / FS 585 ~ 885'
171.2 ~ ALABAMA / GEORGIA STATE LINE
My spread sheet didn't transfer too well, I have the Alliance info on a spread sheet if anyone wants it.
blisterbob
08-21-2013, 08:45
Thanks Drybones,
This is a good record of landmarks and in a good place for reference in case we lose PTA.
marti038
08-21-2013, 08:49
23585
Here is one that I've pieced together. I've hiked very little of this, but it is all from the PTA website or the GA Pinhoti folks.
If anyone has accurate mileages for some of the locations on Rebecca Mtn. I'd love to have that info.
schlanky
08-21-2013, 19:56
Looks like solo's site is back up...collective sigh of relief.
Thanks for posting these guides! Just what I wanted I'm also glad to see that Solo's site is up !
ednotmilkman
08-22-2013, 01:43
mileage for Rebecca section is 11.5 on the sign I believe. My GPS logged 11.3 when I walked it once. I've got the breakdowns for 3 parts west, between and east of the two comm. towers somewhere, and on the old alatrails forum. It is roughly 3 equal parts.
Attached is an Elev. Profile I have used in the past.
Is there a trail guide for the Pinhoti similar to AWOL's AT guide? I need something that shows profiles, water sources and shelters!
Thanks
Mr Parkay's FREE downloadable printable PT mapset is available through the PTA website. I'm sure you could pull it up even if the PTA site is down. His mapset covers almost all the shelter locations(all but two, since he did his PT mapset before a couple of the shelters were built and hasn't updated the mapset recently, get his maps and note where new shelters are through perusing the PTA site), known reliable water sources(although more will exist than he lists, how many more will depend on season hiking and recent weather patterns), mileages between benchmarks, fire towers, most tricky trail turns, etc all through his notes included on the topo maps and a red line on the maps showing the trail. Almost all the shelters are in Alabama although if I'm recalling correctly at least one was in GA at the AL/GA border. MP's mapset does not include maps for the newest 12 miles or so of trail section recently built between Bulls Gap and Trammel TH(I think this TH may sometimes be referred to as the Rebacca MT TH but you can look into that further if you want) which is the officially recognized southern PT terminus as far as the Forest Service although some begin the PT at Flagg Mt which is the most southern Appalachian summit above 1000 ft. The hike between Trammel TH and Flagg MT is almost entirely on forest roads and amounts to more than 20 miles of dirt road walking.
The PT isn't flat by any means but it doesn't have the large elevation swings as say the AT which in my mind meant less need for PT elevation profiles. FOR ME, I felt they weren't needed. I didn't have profiles for the PT. It's my best guesstimate that there isn't a 1200 ft climb on the entire PT. The trail is relatively easy to follow with signage, blazes, obvious tread, etc
10-k will chime in here in a bit and will offer more. Also, we discussed some of the PT hiking beta and possible PT issues here on WB within the past yr so search for them and you'll get more info. The PTA site has the most comprehensive PT beta though. there was some at the Alabama Trails site although I think they might have folded that up but check up on it to make sure. I used all the PTA site town info for resupplying as well as hearing out a few others who had thued or sectioned it to garner some more beta. BlisterBob knows the trail well especially in AL so give him your full attention when he tells you something about the PT.
Here is the direct link to Mr. Parkay if PTA is down.
http://parkaymaps.110mb.com/PinhotiMaps/PinhotiMapsIndex.html
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evan_rolltide
08-27-2013, 08:49
Here is the direct link to Mr. Parkay if PTA is down.
http://parkaymaps.110mb.com/PinhotiMaps/PinhotiMapsIndex.html
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Is it just me or are the links at that site no good? I can't download the files.
atmilkman
08-27-2013, 08:53
Is it just me or are the links at that site no good? I can't download the files.
Not just you . Links no good on my end either. Try these. https://plus.google.com/photos/115301875129738936287/albums/5045694999416543121?banner=pwa
Amazing, The Parkay site seems to be down now too. The number of Pinhoti links that are not working is unbelievable. Glad I saved the files prior.
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For the Alabama Pinhoti you can do pretty good without a guide - it's AT caliber all the way to the trailhead south (west) of Cave Spring, GA - then the experience changes completely from the AL Pinhoti wooded single-track trail to a patchworks of trail, forest roads and paved roads that is the GA Pinhoti.
The big thing to know about the AL Pinhoti from Rebecca Mt to well into the next section is that it's dry as a bone. If you possibly can stash some water at Bulls Gap.
I agree with everything Dogwood has said - it's an easy hike if you're into short climbs and lower elevation. There were many miles where my hiking speed was as fast as I could walk.
blisterbob
08-27-2013, 19:45
Probably more than I have printed written description of the Pinhoti.
If the site and maps go down, I may be able to help from either memory
or what I have saved and printed for record.
Here is a Youtube playlist that I have used several times before hiking a new section of the trail. Total time is about 1 hour 56 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoEn0xjxpzoWmtxsWtqon-8MQKvlzJjAV
goody5534
09-29-2013, 17:17
Add Content
I know this thread is a couple months old, but I have been working on putting together a user-editable guide for the Pinhoti Trail (and other trails).
I have been contacted a few maintainers to provide more up-to-date information, and a few current hikers have also provided new info.
Please check it out: http://trailguidewiki.com/wiki/Pinhoti_Trail_Guide
I'm currently working on adding gpx tracks, maps, profiles, etc.
Any contributions are appreciated, and let me know how your hike goes.
schlanky
11-22-2013, 18:22
Based on a couple of the informal place names in the descriptions (Heaven, Chipmunk Canyon, etc), it looks to me like you copied the info from the Pinhoti Trail Alliance and pasted it into a different format. If that's what you did and you didn't get permission to do so, that's very much not cool.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
blisterbob
11-23-2013, 12:40
Based on a couple of the informal place names in the descriptions (Heaven, Chipmunk Canyon, etc), it looks to me like you copied the info from the Pinhoti Trail Alliance and pasted it into a different format. If that's what you did and you didn't get permission to do so, that's very much not cool.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I have an email fwd. from speaker in which he states that he has permission to use info from PTA.
SouthMark
11-23-2013, 14:31
I have an email fwd. from speaker in which he states that he has permission to use info from PTA.
Bob, I am not sure but I do not think that Hugh is continuing to maintain the PTA site and he is no longer publishing and selling the book.
Based on a couple of the informal place names in the descriptions (Heaven, Chipmunk Canyon, etc), it looks to me like you copied the info from the Pinhoti Trail Alliance and pasted it into a different format. If that's what you did and you didn't get permission to do so, that's very much not cool.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Hi Schlanky, Thanks for taking a look.
Much of the information is from Solo's original guide, altered based on additional information from my 2012 thru hike, and other data sources. Before I posted any of this, I contacted Solo, asking for permission, advice, etc, and received the following emailed response:
Hey speaker!
First, thanks for your interest in the Pinhoti!
Second, what's mine is yours.
Nice trail journal - good to see you out in the world. We only only have one life : )
Solo
Your concern is understandable, and I will clarify this on the guide. I probably could have done a better job with attribution, but it's still very much a work in progress.
The goal is to provide a better system for hikers to maintain the guides themselves. From the initial feedback I have received from hikers and maintainers, it seems to be going well, with a few minor kinks. This system should be workable for other trails as well, and I have contacted several other guide producers for feedback as well. The Pinhoti is definitely the trail program though, as publicly available information (ie, not copyright) is limited for other guides. I have initial skeleton guides up for some other areas, but tried to be clear about the level of trustworthyness for those guides (also a lot of information gathered from my own thru/section hikes).
Anyway, thanks for looking, and thanks for keeping me honest.
-speaker
http://trailguidewiki.com/wiki/Pinhoti_Trail_Guide
blisterbob
11-23-2013, 15:10
Bob, I am not sure but I do not think that Hugh is continuing to maintain the PTA site and he is no longer publishing and selling the book.
I think you are right.
I emailed Hugh in the spring and again last month asking him to remove Pinhoti Trailhead Shuttle from his website as shuttle providers and it is still listed.
Others have also been unable to contact him. Some that had his Phone # are getting a disconnect recording.
Many hikers from outside this area get their info there and are not aware of the changes since his last update.
schlanky
11-23-2013, 22:17
Thanks for the clarification, speaker and Blister Bob. After all the work that solo put into giving hikers info about the Pinhoti, I just didn't want to see someone using it without permission. If solo is no longer maintaining the site, it's probably good to have the info updated somewhere else.
You may want to add that there is a new trail shelter at Hawkins Hollow---it's close to the tent platform, but closer to the bridge in that same area if I remember correctly. Blister Bob can probably give better specifics than my recollection.
al_stargazer
11-24-2013, 14:01
Hi Speaker, Thanks for taking on the task of rewriting and offering a Pinhoti Trail guide. I was reading the first couple of sections and wanted to add some corrections if possible. The trail at 603A has been taken off the road and is completely a woods trail now. As you come up 603A, the road will split. The FS gate is on the left. If you go right, a parking area has been established just up the road. (Completed 9/2012). The Pinhoti Trail goes into the woods from here. The trail continues across Rebecca Mountain until it comes out on Hwy 148 (Bull Gap). Hikers cross the road here and continue onto Horn Mountain. I checked back on PTA and Solo still has it listed as a road walk. This is a great trail to explore. It begins in the lowland and gradually takes you up to the ridgeline where there are some wonderful fall/winter views. Two campsites have been established. Just wanted to share the changes with you. Thanks, Barbara
al_stargazer
11-24-2013, 14:49
Schlanky, There is a new shelter. It is very nice!! We ate lunch there back in May when we hiked this last section. It was miserable rainy day and we totally enjoyed getting out of the weather to eat lunch and rest for a while. I have a picture I'm gonna attached. My flash was on, so the white orbs you see are rain drops. :-)25028
Hey al_stargazer and schlanky, Thanks for the new info.
What I hope is the really cool thing about how I have it set up is the fact that anyone can edit the guide (like wikipedia). That way, future hikers can provide more updates, just like you are here, but for years into the future. That way, if in five years I stop maintaining things, the guide can still be updated for the next hiker.
On that note, if you are willing to give it a shot, you can actually make the changes you are recommending, especially for the shelter. The roadwalk reroute might be a bit more complicated, and I have already been contacting local maintainers for accurate info on that. I currently have a gpx track for the Rebecca Mt section, so it's a work in progress.
Also, a recent thru hiker who used this guide mentioned the new shelter as well, but I haven't been able to get accurate info on that yet, so TBD.
Any and all hikers are welcome to contribute, and hopefully it will build a better guide overall (that's the goal at least). I'm currently working on other trails as well, but the Pinhoti guide is definitely the most complete, partially from updates from my hike, and largely from Solo's original data.
Drybones
11-25-2013, 09:46
FYI...there's a nice new shelter just north of Salem Church Road, even had a couple of chairs and lounge chair pads to sleep on if needed, nice water source at the shelter and a clear pond that looks like it would be a good swimming hole in warm weather.
Hi everyone, I was just able to change the guide for the Flagg Mountain section to reflect new trail (http://trailguidewiki.com/wiki/Pinhoti-S01). Thanks to all of the maintainers for getting rid of even more roadwalk, and thanks to those of you that have provided more input and fresh trail info.
@Drybones, do you have any more info on that shelter? I am vaguely remembering something like that, but I thought it was private property. That might have been on the BMT though. Any info is appreciated, and again, if you are willing, you can edit the guide yourself. If not, keep the updates coming, and I will change the guide as soon as possible.
Thanks again
-speaker
schlanky
11-26-2013, 14:53
Speaker--I think me, al-stargazer and Drybones are all talking about the same shelter. It's located right around your mile marker 166.56 in Section 13. Heading trail north after crossing Salem Church Road, you pass the pond just a little ways before reaching the shelter.
OK, I added that as 'Hawkin's Hollow Shelter (http://trailguidewiki.com/wiki/Hawkin%27s_Hollow_Shelter)
There is a lot of info that I don't know, capacity, gps coordinates, privy, etc, so if someone knows more about it than me, please edit that shelter page.
Also, @al_stargazer, would you mind if I use your image of the shelter for the page? It looks like your original attachment didn't quite work out.
Thanks everyone
Mountain Dog
11-26-2013, 19:34
Solo is a live and well, just not involved in hiking at this time. I heard from him about a year ago. He does not have a computer and only looks at his site occasionally when he gets to the library. He and his girl friend are building a house. They take all of their available time to work on it. He hopes to get back on the trail at a later time but as of now, he's out of the picture. I surely do miss his input. He was at the forefront of making the Pinhoti the wonderful trail it has become.
al_stargazer
11-26-2013, 20:21
I don't mind at all. Not sure what happened to the picture!! When I first uploaded it, I could see it. When I came back later, it wouldn't pull up. I will try again. :-) 25054
I don't mind at all. Not sure what happened to the picture!! When I first uploaded it, I could see it. When I came back later, it wouldn't pull up. I will try again. :-) 25054
Thanks, I just added the picture, with a bit more info as well.