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Patrick
08-15-2005, 23:49
I did a quick search, but didn't come up with the info I needed.

I'm intrigued by the idea of hammock camping and came across the Byer Moskito hammock (http://www.byerofmaine.com/amazonas-moskito.htm). It looks pretty good on-line and I was wondering if someone could give me a side-by-side with some of the nicer ($$) ones, like Hennessy. Are they as comfortable, durable, easy to set up? Thanks a lot. I'd love to be able to try this whole hammock thing with a $40 start-up.

Thanks a lot,

-P

Seeker
08-16-2005, 01:56
i bought my Hennessy based on a need for a light shelter, comfort, rainworthiness, durability, bugproofness, and ease of setup. found it in the HH Backpacker Asym, based heavily on Sgt Rock's apparant high opinion of the company and its products (didn't know that, did you Rock?) I'm 5-10, 175 lbs. and it fits me just fine. the explorer is a little bigger, but weighs more too. were i 6'+ and 200#+, maybe i'd use it instead.

to be comfortable, you need to be able to lie in a hammock flat. i can do that in my asym. couldn't do it in another hammock i owned years ago that forced me to lay like a banana. nice enough for naps, but not for really getting a good night's rest. never tried the byer, but it looks about the same.

so i'd say no, don't get it. but that's just my humble opinion.

Just Jeff
08-16-2005, 02:25
Check out Risk's test hammock at www.imrisk.com (http://www.imrisk.com) to see if you want to sleep in a hammock. You can make one for about $10 at Walmart with no sewing, and it'll be just as comfortable (if not as light...depending on what materials they have in the bargain bin) as a Speer. Add a tarp and you have rain protection.

If you like it, spend the money on a Speer kit and make your own if you need to save $$. Or have someone make it for you...really simple plan. Otherwise, drop the $40 on a Byer now with the intention of upgrading later if you want. It seems that while people experiment with the cheaper ones, they usually end up in either a HH or Speer, with a few in the Clark...none of which are cheap. But maybe those are just the ones who post a lot.

SGT Rock
08-16-2005, 05:10
i bought my Hennessy based on a need for a light shelter, comfort, rainworthiness, durability, bugproofness, and ease of setup. found it in the HH Backpacker Asym, based heavily on Sgt Rock's apparant high opinion of the company and its products (didn't know that, did you Rock?) I'm 5-10, 175 lbs. and it fits me just fine. the explorer is a little bigger, but weighs more too. were i 6'+ and 200#+, maybe i'd use it instead.
I hear that a lot. Someday Satan will probably tell me he got a HH based on my review because he was looking for a good sleeping shelter for hot weather. >:)

MedicineMan
08-16-2005, 05:26
but do have the byer swinger which is a hammock chair, it hangs from a beam on the front deck...after i sat in it for the first time i swore i would never drop any more money on 'real' furniture like lazy boys, this thing will put you to sleep it is so comfortable.

neo
08-16-2005, 07:05
I did a quick search, but didn't come up with the info I needed.

I'm intrigued by the idea of hammock camping and came across the Byer Moskito hammock (http://www.byerofmaine.com/amazonas-moskito.htm). It looks pretty good on-line and I was wondering if someone could give me a side-by-side with some of the nicer ($$) ones, like Hennessy. Are they as comfortable, durable, easy to set up? Thanks a lot. I'd love to be able to try this whole hammock thing with a $40 start-up.

Thanks a lot,

-P
it is not a whole hammock,you will need a tarp and suspension lines to make it complete,i have a byer traveler hammock without mosquito net
it not as comfortable as my hennessey,:cool: neo

rpettit
08-16-2005, 08:02
I tried the Byer hammock, it is not a backpacking hammock. I wasted a lot of time and effort trying to use it as one. I would not recommend it for anything but the backyard. If you want to get the "feel" of hammock camping, make your own on the cheap as suggested previously, or get the Byer of Maine Amazonian for $20. Test you ability to sleep in a hammock in your backyard, research the subject extensively before investing major $$. I sleep in a HH ULB asym, I will never sleep on the ground again.

peter_pan
08-16-2005, 08:20
We used Byers to which we added bug nets. for a year....good hammocks...they allow for you to use the diagonal angle...yes, you have to add the ropes or webbing and a tarp...but hey, many already have these items...they are light and in expensive...

Personally, I didn't care for the strings on the end...they tended to tangle...altough they never broke it was a daily inspection item for me...if you use a cabiner for the rope attachment it is easier to remove and untangle the short cords...also there would be less of this issue if you use snake skins, # 2s should fit..

Switched to HH for the elimination of strings, ease and stability of bottom entry, and additional space in the ends because the bug netting goes to the corners...other considerations were elimination of the zipper, which could fail some day and color.

Pan

Wastrel
08-16-2005, 08:47
I have two of the 11 oz. Byers.
The support lines at the head / foot of one unraveled, making the hammock unusable.
The other one "threw" me out onto the ground. Snap, Thud !
That's the only time in many, many years of hammocking that I've ever had that happen.

I'm now a happy Hennessy camper.

Seeker
08-16-2005, 10:14
I hear that a lot. Someday Satan will probably tell me he got a HH based on my review because he was looking for a good sleeping shelter for hot weather. >:)
i don't mind sharing the idea with him. as long as he doesn't come up and starting begging for drinks outside Fiddler's Green.

titanium_hiker
08-16-2005, 11:29
I made my own system for um... maybe 50$ (that's tarp, hammock, webbing, bugnet) ala risk (not the just the test hammock- check out his other stuff) (http://www.imrisk.com) and it's great for med-warm temps. I need to work out warm stuff though. Strings look to be nasty- our "traditional" hammocks used for the back yard only still were a pain to untangle all the time- go for single string/webbing ends.

remember you don't have to splash out for a hennesy/speer/clark if you don't want to! maybe buy the byer and some webbing, and replace the strings somehow...

titanium

Patrick
08-16-2005, 21:11
Hey everyone,

Thanks for the help and all the comments. Based on all the good advice on here (and a lot of the info on SGT Rock's site) I bought a Hennessy UltraLite Backpacker A-sym today.

I set it up in the woods behind my place and so far couldn't love it more. It's a little nerve-wracking to make such a fundamental change in my system, but I'm excited. I'm taking a ten-day in Massachusetts and it's coming with me for sure. I'm sure I'll come back sold for life.

Just Jeff
08-16-2005, 21:45
Glad you enjoyed it!

Make sure you test it before you go...know how to insulate underneath you and all.

Patrick
08-16-2005, 21:55
Testing it right now. I managed to pitch it in the living room off the door hinge and the balcony. Hammock, laptop, and the Dog the Bounty Hunter marathon on A&E. I'm converted.

Just Jeff
08-16-2005, 23:18
Eh...careful on that door hinge...you're putting about 600lbs of force on it.

See http://hikinghq.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1087

Patrick
08-17-2005, 00:00
Haha, awesome thread, Jeff. I'm on an apartment industrial-type steel door with a whopper hinge, though, so I'm good. I did land on my ass a little while ago, though, because the crazy contraption on the balcony came loose. I have my bike repair stand wedged on the outside of the balcony and it slid loose. Pretty gentle fall and got my girlfriend laughing.

Just Jeff
08-17-2005, 00:30
Haha...I just did that yesterday, too. I made a quick stand by lashing some poles together and running a rope from the top of the poles to the bottom of a nearby tree (that can't be used to hang the hammock). The other end is on a different tree. So I got in the HH, and as soon as I pulled my feet in it started sliding...and since my feet were already in there was nothing I could do...just hit my ass right on the ground!

Nobody saw, so I don't know why I'm telling you guys...

SGT Rock
08-17-2005, 08:10
i don't mind sharing the idea with him. as long as he doesn't come up and starting begging for drinks outside Fiddler's Green.
Good idea. I reckon we ought to create a hammock stealth camp at Fiddlers' Green. I'll bring a flask of good whiskey :D

Seeker
08-17-2005, 14:17
Good idea. I reckon we ought to create a hammock stealth camp at Fiddlers' Green. I'll bring a flask of good whiskey :D
and i'll bring an extra (toujour pret, you know?)

titanium_hiker
08-17-2005, 17:52
glad you're excited. just remember to find your ideal angle (diagonal to the center line) work out the little "pillows" (clothes, stuff) under your neck and knees, and work out your warmth system. (it can get cold on the bottom)

titanium

titanium_hiker
09-09-2005, 11:56
Ok... my friend got one (for indoors sleeping) and so I have seen one in person. Comparing it to my homemade speertype (with substandard material)

BYER
pros
bugnetting is nicer
folds SMALL
very light wieght

cons
string ends not good
short
did not like bugnet ridgeline over the top.





MINE (speertype)
pros
webbing attachments
longer (fabric tapers right to the end)
bugnet ridgeline on inside
made it myself
has gear pocket

cons
doesnot fold as small
is heavier than the byer
bugnet hard to stay taught
not good bugnet (gotta get me some noseeum)



titanium

neo
09-09-2005, 14:28
i have decided to carry my byer hammock on my section hike next month
from dalton mass to franconia notch,i will use it with my jacks r better tarp,:cool: neo


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