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Opa
11-08-2013, 11:17
I plan on hiking alone and wondered about the problems with resupplying in towns while wearing a pack. Seems like a store would not like it due to stealing problems but I cannot just leave it and go shopping. Has anyone encountered this problem?

geomaniac
11-08-2013, 11:22
If staying in town for the night I would leave my pack in the room. Otherwise you will probably meet another hiker along the way, you can watch each others packs. If not maybe talk to the store manager, maybe he will let you leave it in the office or behind a counter while you shop. (as long as its not too funky smelling)

fredmugs
11-08-2013, 11:22
I haven't done it but I've heard that others have placed their packs in the shopping cart and wheeled them thru whatever store they are in. I agree with you - I'm not leaving my pack unattended.

stranger
11-08-2013, 11:28
Pack in shopping cart works a treat, just ask at customer service once you go in, always pays to ask.

I've left my pack outside many places, never had a problem but I keep it in a visible location

Coffee
11-08-2013, 11:31
I think it helps to have a fairly compact pack in terms of volume/size and to clean up prior to going to a store. Unless there is a sign, I'd say taking the pack in is fine. If the store manager has an issue, ask nicely about leaving the pack up front where they can keep an eye on it. Ironically, it seems like the national park concessionaires are the most strict when it comes to packs. SNP, Yosemite and Grand Canyon were all like that on my trips this year.

WingedMonkey
11-08-2013, 11:33
Has anyone encountered this problem?

No...........

steve0423
11-08-2013, 11:34
You'll find that most trail towns are very use to you lugging a pack around. In small stores, (dollar general, etc), I felt fine leaving mine either just outside or inside the front door. You will find some businesses that ask you to leave your pack outside, (I think it's probably an issue of smell more then shop lifting). In larger stores, I would just wear it around the store while I shopped or throw it in the cart and push it around.
After the first time or two, you'll see that it's really not a huge issue

HikerMom58
11-08-2013, 11:48
Wow, that's great that you are thinking about this before you even get on the trail! :)

I live near a small resupply town so I have seen what hikers do with their packs. I've seen them laying out on the sidewalk in front of the local outfitters. (I might not feel comfortable doing that myself) They have a room, in the back, where you could ask to put your pack, while you shop. I'm certain the Kroger (grocery store) would allow you to put your pack in ur buggy to shop, if you didn't leave it at the hotel (assuming you were spending the night)

If you want to go inside a restaurant, with your pack, that would be the biggest challenge, I see. I was eating outside at a restaurant when some hikers walked by... Of course we spoke, I ended up watching their packs for them while they ate. They didn't want to bring them inside b/c of the smell. :cool: They could have eaten outside, as well, so that wouldn't have been a prob. They wanted to eat inside... something to do with air conditioning. ;)

TAG
11-08-2013, 12:25
I've never had a problem. I guess I've been lucky. I've always found people willing to help when I'm in town for resupply. If you're not sure, ask.

Cro-Mag
11-08-2013, 12:51
Pack in a grocery cart, ask an employee if it is ok and then when checking out, put the food into your pack so you dont use bags that you are just going to throw out 30 seconds later. LNT should be used in towns as well :)

FarmerChef
11-08-2013, 13:42
Can't say I've ever had a problem with this. It's just not normally much of an issue. A couple of weeks into it and you'll have figured out the lay of the land.

max patch
11-08-2013, 13:49
Ironically, it seems like the national park concessionaires are the most strict when it comes to packs. SNP, Yosemite and Grand Canyon were all like that on my trips this year.

I'd be willing to bet thats because of terrorist concerns.

CarlZ993
11-08-2013, 13:58
I put my pack in the grocery cart in bigger stores. At most restaurants, I put my rain cover on my pack to 'hide' stuff & left it near the front door. If possible, I sat where I could see it. That wasn't always possible. In towns that I stayed in, it stayed in the hostel or motel room.

peakbagger
11-08-2013, 14:15
Not an issue in 99% of trail towns, the local businesses depend on hiker traffic and accommodate it. In many cases thruhikers are tourist attractions that attract business. There are some businesses that unfortunately may have had several bad encounters with so called thru hikers and generally its easy to figure out. Even with them a bit of politeness goes a long way. It is extremely rare that you ever be the only thru hiker in town and you will quickly figure out the folks that are hiking are roughly your speed so when you get into town its usually easy to meetup with someone you know.

In general despite having goodwill to 99.9 percent of hikers and town folks, my wallet and id stays with me at all times even if the pack gets stashed somewhere.

BrianLe
11-08-2013, 14:26
I somewhat disagree with the idea that "it pays to ask". Sometimes this will be true, others I think this old adage may apply: "Easier to get forgiveness than permission". I.e., if you ask, someone might think they're required to tell you 'no', whereas they might not say anything if you just do it, or at worse ask you not to. In any event, I think intuition and situational awareness will tell you when it's best to use which approach.
Restaurants generally have allowed me to put the pack somewhere indoors.
Bigger issue for me generally is gas station mini-marts. Narrow aisles, not a lot of room to schlep a pack around in, no place to put it inside, yet cars driving up and departing constantly. Just sort of "being aware" and of course not taking more time inside than necessary, and recalling that such crimes are pretty darned rare.

Agree with peakbagger that wallet/ID stays with you. On other trails I often stash my wallet in my pack somewhere but on the AT you go into towns often enough or share shelters with non thru-hiking strangers that I just always have my wallet on me. I think it's a good idea to have your phone readily available and stuff it in a pocket when leaving the pack even for a moment too.

evyck da fleet
11-08-2013, 14:31
Nope. Pack goes in the shopping cart in Wal-Marts/grocery stores and on the porch or in a grassy area that you can see from inside the building for small general stores/restaurants if stopping in a town you're not staying for the night. Take your $, phone and electronics in with you. No one in the general public wants your smelly tent, clothes etc and other hikers already have that stuff.

Coffee
11-08-2013, 14:36
No one in the general public wants your smelly tent, clothes etc and other hikers already have that stuff.

Most non-hikers have no idea how much gear costs. I sent a picture of my Hexamid to a family member when I got it earlier this year and they wanted to know why I was being such a cheapskate instead of getting a "proper tent".

atmilkman
11-08-2013, 15:16
Most non-hikers have no idea how much gear costs. I sent a picture of my Hexamid to a family member when I got it earlier this year and they wanted to know why I was being such a cheapskate instead of getting a "proper tent".

Really. Don't you know you could of had a 2 room cabin tent from Walmart for $79.00.

Starchild
11-08-2013, 15:19
I just placed my pack in the cart, never a issue.

Prime Time
11-08-2013, 18:11
Almost never an issue. Don't even worry about it.

kayak karl
11-08-2013, 18:25
Really. Don't you know you could of had a 2 room cabin tent from Walmart for $79.00. but K-mart have Northwest Territory they're the Bestest :)

JansportD2
11-08-2013, 19:56
"Take your $, phone and electronics in with you. No one in the general public wants your smelly tent, clothes etc and other hikers already have that stuff."

This is what I do and I've never had a problem. I use a small dry-bag in an outer pocket for this stuff so I can grab it quickly. Hikers become inured to the smell of their packs (and themselves), but it acts as a very good deterrent against normal folk.

ocourse
11-08-2013, 20:34
Just wear your pack inside and shop. If you are asked to put the pack outside, or in the office - then you can comply. Don't assume you are doing something wrong. You are shopping and you have stuff with you just like any other shopper.

rocketsocks
11-08-2013, 20:43
just wear your pack inside and shop. If you are asked to put the pack outside, or in the office, Don't. Assume you are doing nothing wrong. You are shopping and you have stuff with you just like any other shopper.


this................

aficion
11-08-2013, 20:49
this................

Keep your pack with you. They actually want your business.Tell them everything you own is in that pack and they are welcome to walk with you as you shop. No probs.

rocketsocks
11-08-2013, 21:19
Keep your pack with you. They actually want your business.Tell them everything you own is in that pack and they are welcome to walk with you as you shop. No probs.

This..............too

rusty bumper
11-09-2013, 10:17
If it was a store with grocery carts, my pack was in the cart as I shopped...no store ever objected to this. In smaller stores without carts, I always asked if I could set my pack on the floor near the entrance/exit. Only one time was my request refused and in that case, I sort of hid it behind the outdoor displays on the store's porch.

CarlZ993
11-09-2013, 15:07
Most non-hikers have no idea how much gear costs. I sent a picture of my Hexamid to a family member when I got it earlier this year and they wanted to know why I was being such a cheapskate instead of getting a "proper tent".
That's amusing. Hopefully, my wife will never found out how much I paid for mine.

Old Hiker
11-09-2013, 23:53
How about offering your ID or DL to whoever asks you to take the pack outside? I never had a problem, but I only had my pack with me in Damascus at the $$ store. Put it in a buggy and off I went.

The Shoney's in G'burg let me have my pack in the booth with me. I was freshly washed, going back to the Trail, however.

Wise Old Owl
11-10-2013, 12:15
but K-mart have Northwest Territory they're the Bestest :)


They are so cool because they are bio degratable... the sun makes little holes in them by the end of the summer - and then you have ventilation!

Opa
11-11-2013, 09:55
That's amusing. Hopefully, my wife will never found out how much I paid for mine.Appreciate all the replies. It does not sound like it will be an issue. Common sense seems to be the answer. I like the money issue. My Neoair xlite arrive Friday and the wife asked how much the pool float costs. I just answered that she didn't want to know. She turned to my mom and said that means $150. Beautiful and smart:)