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Consider a Black Diamond Beta Light 2 person Tarp with the optional insert.
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I presently use a Gossamer Gear Mariposa, which is larger than what you want. I like the pack because my tarptent notch fits securely into the large, long pocket on the left side. If I had a...

Please forgive the thread drift............

You may want to read this essay from a former mountaineer and outdoor gear CEO.

https://www.patagonia.com/stories/on-tumplines/story-18753.html

He...

The owner of PATAGONIA outdoor gear ( Yvon Chouinard ), has a semi serious back problem. He uses a "Trump Line" to take the weight off of his shoulders / hips and moves it directly to his head /...

https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/camping-and-hiking/ultralight-backpack/osprey-levity-45
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Trust me, there will be more then just hair sticking up as an electrical storm moves in. Nylon jackets will start "crackling" as if they were just pulled out from a dryer. But it is not a big deal,...

too windy on top for a poncho..............the monsoon usually starts cranking up around 2 pm and there will be lots of thunder and probably lightning long before the monsoon rain starts. I have a...

or cocktail hour...................

For a short and challenging hike:

https://azstateparks.com/picacho/things-to-do/trails

a good hike is in Utah/AZ Buckskin Gulch to The Confluence and then down to Lees Ferry.
4 to 5 days First 11 miles are in a slot canyon
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some of my best memories are waking up in the middle of the night, peering through the netting of a bivy and simply stare at the stars for a while.

https://www.walmart.com/store/1369/payson-az/search
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[QUOTE=garyp;2206816]Hello,

I do a lot of hiking in the high sierra and purchased the MSR XGK-EX due to I spend a lot of time above 11k and my pocket rocket seems to have issues at those...

It seems that folks have a short memory............but I would bet, that the Insurance Companies do not.

:eek:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/24/us/caving-indiana-university.html

consider this.........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxhup9q1-xc

the trick is to match your pot and windscreen so that the wind screen can be stored inside the pot. you probably already knew...

Hey, try to have a nice day

In your post you stated:

FABRIC
MAIN 30D Cordura® Silnylon Ripstop
ACCENT NanoFly™ 210D Nylon X 200D UHMWPE
BOTTOM NanoFly™ 210D Nylon X 200D UHMWPE

UHMWPE........and, what is that? ...

Such PASSION..............I like Zpacks too, but the big brands are always slowly moving forward, whether you like it or not.
I believe there was a thread that scrutinized a new Cuben Tent. The...

You can order it at REI, have it shipped to the store and then you could walk around in it with their sand bags. Return it if it doesn't fit. good luck

new products from osprey, that you might want to check into...........

https://www.osprey.com/us/en/product/lumina-45-LUMINA45_578.html

New Osprey Pack, an upscale Exos that uses a new fabric. Osprey gives the fabric their own proprietary name, but it appears to be some cuben derivative....

YOU are related to Chuck Norris!? WOW, I am quite envious!

AAAhhh................I got my libertertarians mixed up.

lmao................I believe I stated that there must be a rational answer:D:-?.

The poor child was traumatized by the actions of a world gone mad and unfortunately never quite got over it.

[QUOTE=Elaikases;2199650]My real question is whether or not cuben fiber fabric is going to stay stable in price or might come down.

Anyone have any idea? Seems like the patents should be expired....