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    and add into that list----white oak sinks...

    and add into that list----white oak sinks seasonal closures....
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    i havent been up to polls gap in about 8 years so...

    i havent been up to polls gap in about 8 years so i cant recall what the sign says....

    but, since they closed that trail down for erosion problems----my guess is that they will let it be closed...
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    yeah... forgot about that one... i tried...

    yeah...

    forgot about that one...

    i tried looking for the Compendium last night but all the website led me to was an amendment...

    so i emailed the PIO about it and she sent me the pdf on it.....
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    it will never reopen....

    it will never reopen....
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    yeah.... the only ones that are illegal are...

    yeah....

    the only ones that are illegal are the ones i mentioned earlier on----mainly the upper part of chimney tops, the lower part of chimney that wraps around to the north, and duckhawk ridge...
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    it rained saturday night going into sunday..... ...

    it rained saturday night going into sunday.....

    not sure how much rain was had and im too lazy to ask my meteorologist....

    however, there have been a bunch of photos on facebook saying the...
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    if they ever did put one there----it would be on...

    if they ever did put one there----it would be on the eagle creek trail side....

    the Park made this an unofficial trail to avoid water crossings------that one in particular.....

    and i dont...
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    does pinnacle creek have a sign? if it...

    does pinnacle creek have a sign?

    if it does----it wasnt there the 3 times i have done it since it was "closed"


    Polls gap trail is closed to try to allow it to recover with the erosion that is...
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    i would think, and i have not been in the Park,...

    i would think, and i have not been in the Park, that the springs should be flowing with the rain we have gotten...

    but your best bet is to call the backcountry office....
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    and add into that scott mountain trail, which you...

    and add into that scott mountain trail, which you have mentioned...
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    the only trails that i know that are illegal to...

    the only trails that i know that are illegal to hike in the Park are the top of chimney tops, the bottom part of chimney after the bridge that used to come around the north side, and the ridge line...
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    that can be a nasty ford with medium to high...

    that can be a nasty ford with medium to high water level....

    one year i crossed there and it was up to my chest....
  13. interesting....... i wonder if they cap the...

    interesting.......

    i wonder if they cap the limit?
  14. The cables are great---one of the best things the...

    The cables are great---one of the best things the Park has done for hikers, except
    for the open hang bags....

    thats why I always suggest clipping the bag onto the cables as a redundant system......
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    i also decided to (and it was also a 3 am...

    i also decided to (and it was also a 3 am purchase) to go ahead and buy the book to check it out....
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    thanks....and sorry to hear about your wife.... ...

    thanks....and sorry to hear about your wife....

    and i was thinking Callahan didn't seem right so thanks on the correction...

    but it sounds like you had a good trip and hope you saw all sorts of...
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    yeah..... the mileage changed with the reroute...

    yeah.....

    the mileage changed with the reroute that i wrote above....

    and since your book is from 2003-----a nice volunteer by the name of robert lochbaum wheeled all the trails multiple times...
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    yeah........that was a reroute that was done...

    yeah........that was a reroute that was done maybe 20 ish years ago....

    and it was really a series of reroutes----

    coming down jenkins-----it joined what was known as pinnacle creek...
    ...
  19. just outta curiosity, what do you do? I know...

    just outta curiosity, what do you do?

    I know what i would have done (and i dont drink anymore but if they had this way for food orders)-----I would have walked out.....

    but then again, i...
  20. actually, i wanna do it coming down from Kings...

    actually, i wanna do it coming down from Kings Meadow....

    Patman and i had discussed doing this as he went down it a bit and found an old trail going down....

    that discussion was before my...
  21. he was checking his Tinder....

    he was checking his Tinder....
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    a quick google search brought this-- ...

    a quick google search brought this--

    https://statelaws.findlaw.com/maryland-law/maryland-rape-and-sexual-assault-laws.html



    i haven't follow much of this story and don't know what kinda of...
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    well..... WB is a place that likes to jump to...

    well.....

    WB is a place that likes to jump to conclusions without all the facts presented........
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    that's why he was asking where one is at.... ...

    that's why he was asking where one is at....

    as Gambit says----the campground outside of the Park will let people pay for a shower without staying at their campground....

    I have taken a shower...
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    well.... he could have been a runaway or...

    well....

    he could have been a runaway or estranged from his family....

    as someone noted earlier, there's got to be alot more to this story....
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