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    For me, as with most of you, permethrin is a...

    For me, as with most of you, permethrin is a no-brainer. But don't assume it is risk-free. There was a study showing that people who use permethrin occupationally had a higher risk of Parkinson's....
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    OK. I am not here to debate the SCLC. Or to judge...

    OK. I am not here to debate the SCLC. Or to judge the people of Damascus. I am here to describe what has changed for me in the last three years or so.

    I never would have hesitated to use a...
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    I use permethrin religiously. Ticks are scary as...

    I use permethrin religiously. Ticks are scary as hell. But it is a neurotoxin. It has been linked to Parkinsonís disease for those who use it occupationally (much higher exposure than for us). So my...
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    Cheese + Triscuits and maybe dried fruit.

    Cheese + Triscuits and maybe dried fruit.
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    Yes. Got too reliant on the Insect Shield...

    Yes. Got too reliant on the Insect Shield pants/socks and permethrin shoes. Got to be more careful.
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    Yeah should have used it for kindling first.

    Yeah should have used it for kindling first.
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    And btw a big thank you to all you PATC...

    And btw a big thank you to all you PATC volunteers. Those cabins are amazing.
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    Of course you donít need to cowboy camp to get a...

    Of course you donít need to cowboy camp to get a tick. Found one in my belly button after one-day cabin trip near Shenandoah, on wide trails, wearing all my permethrin clothes. Getting antibiotic now.
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    I tried to reply, "Wow." But apparently I need at...

    I tried to reply, "Wow." But apparently I need at least 10 characters to post. So wow wow wow wow.
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    Here are come cheap ones

    They go by Zhuanglin or Aleader or Socone but I'm pretty sure they are all the same thing.

    I got them for a weekend hike that included water crossings. I don't know about their reliability over...
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    Well, that's helpful info. Actually I was...

    Well, that's helpful info. Actually I was engaging in more wishful thinking because right now if I'm lucky I can get out to trails in Michigan, Wisconsin, etc. three or four long weekends a year....
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    Oh man after watching those videos I want to hike...

    Oh man after watching those videos I want to hike that trail so bad.
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    That was a good piece. Thanks.

    That was a good piece. Thanks.
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    Thanks, Turtle and Slo-goíen. Yes I know Iím...

    Thanks, Turtle and Slo-goíen. Yes I know Iím being paranoid about the ticks ó and the spray permethrin. Appreciate the thoughts.
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    Thanks, wstatz...

    Thanks, wstatz. That's an option too. I've seen references recently to occupational use of permethrin being linked to Parkinson's. I know the exposure is much lower, but I'd like to go with Insect...
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    InsectShield groundsheet project

    I've never MYOG'd anything more complex than a cat stove, so although my questions may seem overly obvious, please bear with me. I'm thinking about forgoing my bug nest when the temps are too cool...
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    I second the minimums.biz motion. Go in on it...

    I second the minimums.biz motion. Go in on it with someone if you donít need $20 worth. Other stuff like sunscreen sold too.
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    Man, what a trip! And great pix. Thanks for the...

    Man, what a trip! And great pix. Thanks for the report.
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    Thanks, everyone, and especially thanks Slo-go'en...

    Thanks, everyone, and especially thanks Slo-go'en for the photos!
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    Making Gatewood bug nest taut

    So with enough time and a reasonably decent campsite, I can get my Cape good and tight. That SMD NetTent is another story. The damn thing seems to sag no matter what I do, and it's so small already...
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    Yeah. Doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun. But...

    Yeah. Doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun. But I must say that you've got two great dogs there.
  22. Good question. When it gets cold I wear a fleece...

    Good question. When it gets cold I wear a fleece balaclava. That Zpacks hood does look nice...
  23. Thank you all for your input! As I said, itís a...

    Thank you all for your input! As I said, itís a big purchase, so I appreciate the thoughts.
  24. When itís cold, Neolair over a zlite. Together a...

    When itís cold, Neolair over a zlite. Together a little over a 5 R value I think.
  25. Thanks for the input, everybody. Wayne, I've got...

    Thanks for the input, everybody. Wayne, I've got a Neoair, and if it gets cold I bring a Z-lite too. Tom and Egilbe, I'm looking at the fill weight too -- and shape. As far as shape, the Sonic is...
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