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I agree with this having owned a vapor trail and ULA conduit
No, just the conduit. It is a well made pack and I have no complaints. I have carried mid 20's at times with no problems.
How about the ULA Conduit. It is in the same weight & size range as the others. Made in the USA too
I just sent you an email for an order of 20 yards. Thanks for the great deal. Looking forward to trying some new projects with it!