Seriously, my experience is that nothing breathable is waterproof for more than a few minutes of exposure to water. $230 saloman boots with goretex, $75 timberland boots with goretex, and omnishield rain suit are examples that are fine for a splash or a short rain shower but I have found nothing that keeps me dry in a 30 plus minute rain. Some better than others but none are water PROOF. I'm now looking at waterproof supposedly socks and review after review say they are. I'm skeptical or just unlucky with waterproofness. Any body truly got long term all day waterproofness from these high tech material. Lizard socks is the latest I saw. Gore text socks and others are out there too. Looking for constructive input. Thanks