WhiteBlaze Pages 2024
A Complete Appalachian Trail Guidebook.
AVAILABLE NOW. $4 for interactive PDF(smartphone version)
Read more here WhiteBlaze Pages Store

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 28
  1. #1

    Default Shelter Gardens- Anybody like the idea?

    I think it would be awesome for there to be shelter produce! not a big spot but a few tomato plants, cucumber etc at permitting shelters and witha very little amount of effort from each hiker it could be maintained just about every day. a fresh cucumber or tomato would be a delight on the trail and the whole concept could give people a sense of teamwork or connection.
    Trail Miles: 4,980.5
    AT Map 1: Complete 2013-2021
    Sheltowee Trace: Complete 2020-2023
    Pinhoti Trail: Complete 2023-2024
    Foothills Trail: 47.9
    AT Map 2: 279.4
    BMT: 52.7
    CDT: 85.4

  2. #2
    Registered User Hot Flash's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-06-2013
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Age
    62
    Posts
    421

    Default

    Wouldn't work for a lot of reasons. For instance, how would you keep wildlife from eating the plants?
    Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.

  3. #3
    Registered User Old Hiker's Avatar
    Join Date
    07-10-2009
    Location
    Tampa, Florida
    Posts
    2,593
    Images
    5

    Default

    +1 Hot Flash. I have enough problems in my back yard, trying to keep mine alive.

    Plus, I can't remember too many shelters with enough sunshine (6-8 hours+ per day) to have the plants thrive.

    Nice idea , though.
    Old Hiker
    AT Hike 2012 - 497 Miles of 2184
    AT Thru Hiker - 29 FEB - 03 OCT 2016 2189.1 miles
    Just because my teeth are showing, does NOT mean I'm smiling.
    Hányszor lennél inkább máshol?

  4. #4

    Default

    Still a cool thought...

    It is a little like the practice of gathering firewood to leave at the fire pit for the next guy...

    I like it.
    Want a 'Hike Your Own Hike' sticker?... => send me a message <=


    Favorite quote;
    Quote Originally Posted by sailsET View Post
    My guess is that you are terribly lost, and have no idea how to the use the internet.

  5. #5
    Registered User
    Join Date
    06-10-2005
    Location
    Bedford, MA
    Posts
    12,678

    Default

    OP's idea actually touches on Benton MacKaye's original concept for the AT.

  6. #6
    Registered User FarmerChef's Avatar
    Join Date
    05-03-2012
    Location
    Northwestern, VA (outside of Harper's Ferry)
    Posts
    1,800
    Images
    4

    Default

    I've been at a shelter that actually had flowers in baskets and they were beautiful. I think that veggies really wouldn't work for the reasons listed above and a bunch of others. But what about planting herbs? They wouldn't be a temptation to animals, require less maintenance and some can thrive in dim light. Plus a little goes a long way so more hikers could benefit.

    The biggest kicker here is that many hikers are probably not green thumbs and could overwater/overpick or otherwise kill the plants. Specific instructions would have to be left about when to/not to harvest and how to care for the plants. Overall, I like the idea.
    2,000 miler. Still keepin' on keepin' on.

  7. #7

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerChef View Post
    I've been at a shelter that actually had flowers in baskets and they were beautiful.
    The Clarendon shelter in Vermont comes to mind. I seem to remember one or two others with flowers. The other problem with a veggie garden is only a lucky few at the end of the season would be able to pick the fruits of the labor as it were.
    Follow slogoen on Instagram.

  8. #8
    Some days, it's not worth chewing through the restraints.
    Join Date
    12-13-2004
    Location
    Central Vermont
    Age
    68
    Posts
    2,666

    Default

    the flip side of the "most plants wouldn't survive" coin is that you might plant something that winds up being invasive or otherwise detrimental to the local flora/fauna

  9. #9
    Registered User Old Hiker's Avatar
    Join Date
    07-10-2009
    Location
    Tampa, Florida
    Posts
    2,593
    Images
    5

    Default

    [QUOTE=FarmerChef;1873215].............................But what about planting herbs? They wouldn't be a temptation to animals, require less maintenance and some can thrive in dim light. Plus a little goes a long way so more hikers could benefit.

    ................................................ Specific instructions would have to be left about when to/not to harvest and how to care for the plants. ...............................QUOTE]

    Herbs wouldn't be too bad, but I'm wondering if they would become an invasive species. I'm thinking of all the problems I had with mint in my yard in VA. I have it safely contained in a pot now so it can't spread. It would be nice to grab a leaf or two of basil or thyme to share with other hikers while making meals.

    Specific instructions ???? We all know how well THAT works. I've seen people who can't/won't work the privy with dry leaves in a bucket beside them, let alone with an EMPTY bucket.
    Old Hiker
    AT Hike 2012 - 497 Miles of 2184
    AT Thru Hiker - 29 FEB - 03 OCT 2016 2189.1 miles
    Just because my teeth are showing, does NOT mean I'm smiling.
    Hányszor lennél inkább máshol?

  10. #10
    Registered User
    Join Date
    01-28-2008
    Location
    Spokane, WA
    Age
    71
    Posts
    4,907

    Default

    Oregano I planted at my cabin has run amok. Best to be careful.
    "It's fun to have fun, but you have to know how." ---Dr. Seuss

  11. #11
    GA-ME 2011
    Join Date
    03-17-2007
    Location
    Baltimore, MD
    Age
    66
    Posts
    3,069
    Images
    9

    Default

    Several tomato plants at a shelter could easily be protected by chicken wire.

    Quarry Gap has hanging flower baskets, they could just as easily be hanging tomato plants.

    I've picked apples from trees along the AT and of course plenty of blueberries up north.
    "Chainsaw" GA-ME 2011

  12. #12

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadeye View Post
    the flip side of the "most plants wouldn't survive" coin is that you might plant something that winds up being invasive or otherwise detrimental to the local flora/fauna
    +1

    The idea that any plant that is pretty or useful is 'natural' and therefore acceptable to plant anywhere has gone wrong many times before. I think a garden of native plants would be cool, but isn't that just called a forest? Best we leave that to mother nature, in my opinion. She does a fine job, if we'd just let her be.

  13. #13

    Default

    Ok, garden is out but what about a solar-powered fridge with beer?

  14. #14

    Default

    +1 for solarbeerfridge!!
    Trail Miles: 4,980.5
    AT Map 1: Complete 2013-2021
    Sheltowee Trace: Complete 2020-2023
    Pinhoti Trail: Complete 2023-2024
    Foothills Trail: 47.9
    AT Map 2: 279.4
    BMT: 52.7
    CDT: 85.4

  15. #15
    Registered User
    Join Date
    01-28-2008
    Location
    Spokane, WA
    Age
    71
    Posts
    4,907

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by martinb View Post
    Ok, garden is out but what about a solar-powered fridge with beer?
    Combine the ideas. A garden with barley and hops plus the brewing and beer storage. A brewhut.
    "It's fun to have fun, but you have to know how." ---Dr. Seuss

  16. #16
    Registered User
    Join Date
    04-02-2013
    Location
    Pensacola, Florida
    Posts
    618

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit McCrae View Post
    I think it would be awesome for there to be shelter produce! not a big spot but a few tomato plants, cucumber etc at permitting shelters and witha very little amount of effort from each hiker it could be maintained just about every day. a fresh cucumber or tomato would be a delight on the trail and the whole concept could give people a sense of teamwork or connection.

    You want to give the bears, deer, raccoons, etc. more reason to like shelters?
    Time is but the stream I go afishin' in.
    Thoreau

  17. #17
    Registered User tagg's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-03-2009
    Location
    greenwood, sc
    Age
    51
    Posts
    295

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerChef View Post
    But what about planting herbs? They wouldn't be a temptation to animals, require less maintenance and some can thrive in dim light. Plus a little goes a long way so more hikers could benefit.

    The biggest kicker here is that many hikers are probably not green thumbs and could overwater/overpick or otherwise kill the plants. Specific instructions would have to be left about when to/not to harvest and how to care for the plants. Overall, I like the idea.

    I saw this basket of herbs hanging at spring mountain shelter a couple of years ago. It had instructions for care written on it, just like you referenced. There were four or five small plants growing in it at the time.

    -tagg

  18. #18

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tagg View Post
    I saw this basket of herbs hanging at spring mountain shelter a couple of years ago. It had instructions for care written on it, just like you referenced. There were four or five small plants growing in it at the time.

    Awesome! Unique act of kindness
    Trail Miles: 4,980.5
    AT Map 1: Complete 2013-2021
    Sheltowee Trace: Complete 2020-2023
    Pinhoti Trail: Complete 2023-2024
    Foothills Trail: 47.9
    AT Map 2: 279.4
    BMT: 52.7
    CDT: 85.4

  19. #19
    Registered User Hot Flash's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-06-2013
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Age
    62
    Posts
    421

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerChef View Post
    But what about planting herbs? They wouldn't be a temptation to animals, require less maintenance and some can thrive in dim light.
    .
    Oh yes they certainly are a temptation to animals.
    Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.

  20. #20

    Default

    I like the idea, but it wouldn't work for many of the reasons (and more) already listed. I doubt you'd really have an issue with invasive plants, especially things like tomatoes and such, since they're pretty helpless in nature. Although, maybe there's an exception, but don't think it would be to bad WRT speading invasive plants.

    And I do wonder if it would be more disruptive in areas with old growth forests, such as GSMNP than in other areas that have not yet regained old growth status.

    It's always an interesting thought of introducing life in an area...

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
++ New Posts ++

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •