"I'd rather kill a man than a snake. Not because I love snakes or hate men. It is a question, rather, of proportion." Edward Abbey
Sounds like the study found a correlation rather than a causation (contrary to the first sentence in the article), as evidenced by the quote in last paragraph: "'Biologic data more strongly support the hypothesis that antibiotic use is an indicator of infection and consequent inflammation, which may increase the risk of NHL, and that high cumulative NSAID use is a marker of chronic inflammation,' they conclude."
I also wonder how much the increased lifespan is reflected in the "increased" incidence of certain diseases. Since we live longer, we have a greater chance of X disease developing. I have no idea how much of an impact that would have, though.
Either way, I'll continue to eat Motrin when I need it!
I prefer the Natural pain relievers
"I'd rather kill a man than a snake. Not because I love snakes or hate men. It is a question, rather, of proportion." Edward Abbey
Dude, payote doesn't relieve your pain. Might make you think a pink elephant caused it, though...which is probably a lot funnier than what actually happened!
i wuz thinking more about the O-pie-ates ....
"I'd rather kill a man than a snake. Not because I love snakes or hate men. It is a question, rather, of proportion." Edward Abbey
You know, when my head hurts bad enough, I think that 2 demarols and 2 beers would be just about right. Unfortunately, that's just short-term and causes bounce-back.Originally Posted by smokymtnsteve
Just hike.
It's the Beer Frank..U know dat ole demon ALKYHOL,Originally Posted by Nightwalker
now a good ole MJ cig could smooth u right out
"I'd rather kill a man than a snake. Not because I love snakes or hate men. It is a question, rather, of proportion." Edward Abbey
SMokyMtnSteve:
for hikers this is ALL the info they need: (in red)
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Using antibiotics more than 10 times in childhood increases the likelihood of developing non-Hodgkin's lymphoma (NHL), a cancer that affects the body's lymphatic system, new research suggests.....blah,blah,blah....
......marginally increased NHL risk among heavy users of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs ( NSAIDs), such as ibuprofen (Motrin, Advil), but no association between the disease and any other types of medication.
NO NEED to spread ALARM...when none is needed.
ANd another thing...when did WHITEBLAZE turn into a FORUM for POT SMOKING & PEYOTE eating???
Last edited by Jaybird; 11-21-2005 at 08:27.
You say that like it's a bad thing!Originally Posted by Jaybird
"We wanderers, ever seeking the lonelier way, begin no day where we have ended another day; and no sunrise finds us where sunset left us."
Kahlil Gibran
I've been using naproxen Sodium recently for my anti-inflammatory pain relief...works pretty good and I don't get anything like the stomach irritation Motrin used to cause me. Celebrex kicked butt though...no pain, no inflammation, no stomach problems at all.
Andrew "Iceman" Priestley
AT'95, GA>ME
Non nobis Domine, non nobis sed Nomini Tuo da Gloriam
Not for us O Lord, not for us but in Your Name is the Glory
Americans take WAY TOO MANY pills! YOu don't need them. TV will tell you differently. Doctors will tell you differently, Pharmacists too. But in reality, you don't need 95% of them.
my mother in law is 75 years old and has never been to the doctor! Her knees aren't so good anymore, but she still works sometimes.
I took 2 ibupros on one thru hike and about 6 on another. The last time, i didn't take any. Don't let the brainwashing control you.
Originally Posted by Jaybird
Jaybird in my years of hiking on the AT I have heard many if not most LD hikers talk about using a LOT of Ibuprofen,,,so common is the use that it is called Vitamin I in hiking community.
so many LD hikers are HEAVY Ibuprofen users,,, I have had friends DIE from lymphoma, so be aware of the potenial risks involved with the use of this chemical.
no one is spreading alarm ..just sharing scientific information. the longer "modern" medicine is around and the more users and heavier use (as Vit I is in the hiking world) the more adverse side effects will come forward.
Use a LOT of Vit I JBIRD???
"I'd rather kill a man than a snake. Not because I love snakes or hate men. It is a question, rather, of proportion." Edward Abbey
Three doctors told me that it was fine.. I survived off of Vitamin "I" and Snickers bars.. As long as I ate there were no side effects.
always does the trick....Originally Posted by smokymtnsteve
Better than Vit.I any Morning!Originally Posted by the goat
RISE AND SHINE!!!
"I'd rather kill a man than a snake. Not because I love snakes or hate men. It is a question, rather, of proportion." Edward Abbey
yep sounds like a real healthy diet to meOriginally Posted by hopefulhiker
"I'd rather kill a man than a snake. Not because I love snakes or hate men. It is a question, rather, of proportion." Edward Abbey
wake'n bake is usually on my breakfast menu, ahhhh the b-fast of championsOriginally Posted by smokymtnsteve
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Ya'll are trying to corrupt me with your loose morals! It's working!!
"We wanderers, ever seeking the lonelier way, begin no day where we have ended another day; and no sunrise finds us where sunset left us."
Kahlil Gibran
Originally Posted by justusryans
Loose Morals ???
who are U accusing of haivng Loose Morals???
The Immoral ones are the NAZIS that bother Peace Loving Folks ,
who are just using Natural Plants, Plants that our Mother Earth has given us!
LOVE AND RESPECT YOUR MOTHER!!!
"I'd rather kill a man than a snake. Not because I love snakes or hate men. It is a question, rather, of proportion." Edward Abbey
This has been my experience as well. A question for those who use these while long-distance hiking: Do they continue to work well or do they lose effectiveness like SmokySteve's natural remedies?Originally Posted by icemanat95