Appalachian Trail Institute

[warren doyle]

Just wanted to let the AT Class of 2006 know that the last ATI before the thru-hiking season starts will be held from Dec. 16-19 at Lees-McRae College in Banner Elk, NC (near the trail in the Roan Highlands). Right now, we have ten folks signed up, all potential Class of 2006 thru-hikers. For more info on the ATI, see my website below.
Happy trails!
Warren

[Jack Tarlin]

Gosh, thanks for once again taking advantage of this website to shamelessly advertise that hikers have the opportunity to purchase elsewhere what they can get here for free.

If by any chance you've anything else to offer Whiteblaze other than a sales pitch, by all means let us know sometime.

[k4kam]

Warren,

Thanks for making the opportunity available. I'm looking forward to being there.

Now, if only the weather will cooperate - this Florida boy's car doesn't have 4-wheel drive, snow tires, or chains!

John "K4KAM" Warne.

[MOWGLI]

Gosh, thanks for once again taking advantage of this website to shamelessly advertise that hikers have the opportunity to purchase elsewhere what they can get here for free.

If by any chance you've anything else to offer Whiteblaze other than a sales pitch, by all means let us know sometime.

Gee Jack, didn't you just lecture somebody about not trying to play Administrator? Let me remind you of your own words from a couple of weeks ago.

It's Rock's site, unless you hadn't noticed, Weary.

It's legitimate for him to administer it in any way he sees fit.

People unhappy with this can learn to deal with it, or they're welcome to go elsewhere.

Happy Thanksgiving Warren.

[Tha Wookie]

Thanks for passing that along, Warren.

Good luck in your courses!

PS happy thanksgiving!

[Jack Tarlin]

Mowgli--

Lighten up.

Nobody's telling anyone how to administer this site. I'm on record as saying repeatedly that Rock and Troll are doing a great job at it.

All I'm doing is pointing out that the curious fact Mr. Doyle has contributed to this site exactly twice in the past week....and used both occasions to "sell" his knowledge and expertise; in other words, he's chosen to use this site only in order to promote a commercial enterprise. If he's contributed anything else here lately, I've managed to miss it. It should be evident to even his most ardent admirers that his interest in posting to Whiteblaze is presently limited to its usefulness as a free advertising site for his own enterprises, and that instead of helping folks out on this website by sharing his knowledge and experience, the way that thousands of other hikers do, he's instead only interested in using this website to SELL his expertise and not to freely share it.

If you can't see this, that's your problem.

[warren doyle]

Happy Thanksgiving to you both - MOWGLI16 and Tha Wookie.

And to k4kam - have a safe trip up here to the mountains. I too am looking forward to the upcoming ATI. It should be both fun and informative. Nothing compares to getting your information face-to-face and walking the actual trail with fellow pilgrims.

[MOWGLI]

Jack, if you're unhappy with the way that Warren posts here you "can learn to deal with it" or "go elsewhere."

Now go eat your turkey you cannibal.

[Jack Tarlin]

Actually, nothing compares to helping people and answering their questions because one truly enjoys doing it, and not because one is getting compensated for it.

How curious that of the dozens of experienced and knowledgable former thru-hikers here at Whiteblaze, I can think of only one who continually uses this site in order to peddle to others, instead of to share freely.

It's actually "fun and informative" to assist folks without asking or expecting payment or reward.

But to each their own.

[Bolo]

Bickering aside, I've gotten a lot more useful information on this website from Jack Tarlin that I have from Warren Doyle, and I don't know either of them!

Bolo

[smokymtnsteve]

Jack why do U HATE AMERIKA and FREEDOM so much???

Of course Warren has the right to "sell" his knowledge to anyone who wants to buy it..


Just like to say I'm thankful for what little remaining freedoms we do have left in this "democracy" we live in,

MAKE LOVE>>NOT WAR!

HAPPY T DAY WARREN!

[Singe03]

I've been around the Internet since 14.4 dialup was about the only way to fly and I've never been fond of the idea of using someone else's bandwidth to advertise your business venture for free. It seems equilivant to someone putting one of those electric signs on wheels in your front yard without asking your permission, then plugging it in to your electrical outlet so you have to pay to keep it lit.

I have no objection to Mr. Doyle's business but if he wishes to advertise, why does he not sponsor the site for a month and get his name up on the front page or work out a deal with the admins to "lease" a discrete link someplace?

[rickb]

Warren--

Thanks for bringing your once-a-year seminar to everyone's attention. As the one person in the entire history of the AT to walk over 30,000 miles, I imagine that most potential thru hikers would be interested in hearing about it-- whether or not they intend to take advantage of it.

With 24 hours of classroom instruction (in addition to time on the trail), I can only imagine what you have to say. I think just about any thru hiker could go over the gear and mechanics of a thru hike in a few hours. Its just walking.

But perhaps you add something more. I am figuring that you must, given the extraordinarily high completion rates of those who attend. Perhaps you get into the pilgrimage thing or issues of the heart or how so much of a hike can suck. Who knows.

Happy turkey day.

Rick B
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"The first illegal immigrants were the Pilgrims" T-shirt wisdom that got me thinking

[warren doyle]

Happy Thanksgiving to you 'rickboudrie' and 'smokymtnsteve'!

[Tha Wookie]

Mowgli--

Lighten up.

Nobody's telling anyone how to administer this site. I'm on record as saying repeatedly that Rock and Troll are doing a great job at it.

All I'm doing is pointing out that the curious fact Mr. Doyle has contributed to this site exactly twice in the past week....and used both occasions to "sell" his knowledge and expertise; in other words, he's chosen to use this site only in order to promote a commercial enterprise. If he's contributed anything else here lately, I've managed to miss it. It should be evident to even his most ardent admirers that his interest in posting to Whiteblaze is presently limited to its usefulness as a free advertising site for his own enterprises, and that instead of helping folks out on this website by sharing his knowledge and experience, the way that thousands of other hikers do, he's instead only interested in using this website to SELL his expertise and not to freely share it.

If you can't see this, that's your problem.

Jack,

You crazy socialist. Haven't you ever heard of the promise and glory of Capitalism? You know, one of the basic inalienable rights that our troops are fighting for in Iraq and Cuba? Geeze, what kind of message do you think that sends to our men and women in the armed services?

God bless America, Jack!

and God bless you!

[TJ aka Teej]

given the extraordinarily high completion rates of those who attend.

Business owners often make extraordinary claims when selling a product.
Buyer beware extrodinary claims made without any proof offered.

Here's the ENTIRE Doylie seminar FOR FREE:
Pay Doyle money.
He'll tell you his personaly authored legend.
He'll tell you the AT allows you to cry.
He'll tell you get in shape, don't carry heavy stuff, and go cheap.
He'll tell you that you will fail only by not following his plan.
He'll tell you never speak about The ATI with outsiders.

Well, there you go. Now you don't need to pay him.
You're welcome, happy trails!

[TJ aka Teej]

I'm looking forward to being there.

K4 - pay by check, and then stop payment! That's the Warren way!

[rickb]

Actually, TJ, the Warren Way is to only accept payment on the last day of class (satisfaction guaranteed!).

[weary]

Despite the snow and freezing rain, I, my three kids, and a batch of grandchildren drove to The Cabin today to have Thanksgiving Dinner with assorted nephews, neices, significant others and siblings.

Several cancelled at the last minute, but 18 crowded around the big table that thru hikers helped build a few years ago.

The food was great -- even the 25 pound squash that I grew last summer and cooked up yesteerday as my share of the festivities. Earl has finally finished off the dining area with pine paneling he cut from the trees on the hostel land.

The walls were decorated with several photos, including the groups that did Warren Doyle's 2000 and 2005 expeditions. I looked at the pictures carefully. I didn't see any lackeys or minions, Jack. But all had big grins on their faces, suggesting they were enjoying their walk north from Springer Mountain.

Weary

[TJ aka Teej]

Actually, TJ, the Warren Way is to only accept payment on the last day of class (satisfaction guaranteed!).

Is that what Warren just IMed to you, Rick?
Warren's an AT business charging money - something Warren says violates his sacred Trail principles, and therefore justifies stealing the service.
So, K4 - just attend, and don't pay! That's the Warren Way!
Thanks for clearing up exactly when ATI victims should stiff Warren, Rick!