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    Quote Originally Posted by D2maine View Post
    thats great- has no bearing on this discussion but if that works for you...HYOH Hike Your Own Home...
    Think about it. If a human enters a wild area, the wild area is changed. Like the notion in Jurassic Park: “If you observe the dinosaurs you will change them.”
    The idea that humans can traverse a wilderness and leave no trace of their passage is ...
    I should be quiet now. Think about it.
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    PS:
    The leave no trace discussion started long before I said anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D2maine View Post
    thats great- has no bearing on this discussion but if blah, blah, blah...
    Pal, YOUR Nazi LNT post is what has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

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    Two easiest ways to pick a fight on WB; mention dogs or LNT. We really need a thread on keeping LNT while thru hiking with a dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devoidapop View Post
    Two easiest ways to pick a fight on WB; mention dogs or LNT. We really need a thread on keeping LNT while thru hiking with a dog.
    Well, since my dog doesn't use toilet paper, do I have to bury his poop? I mean, I see bear poop on the AT all time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by colorado_rob View Post
    Pal, YOUR Nazi LNT post is what has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.
    welcome godwin

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    Quote Originally Posted by devoidapop View Post
    Two easiest ways to pick a fight on WB; mention dogs or LNT. We really need a thread on keeping LNT while thru hiking with a dog.
    it truly is a sad statement that LNT would be controversial on a hiking forum... it is not a difficult thing to follow and the results are reasonable protections for a beloved shared resource.

    you don't get to redefine LNT for your own selfish ends by calling coffee grounds vegetable matter instead of food or throwing out crazy straw man arguments about your dead body violating LNT to devalue the principals of LNT.

    LNT is all the same lessons we learned in kindergarten. try acting like kindergartners instead of adults.


    back to the op - starbucks via mixed with hot chocolate for my morning mocha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikes in Rain View Post
    When dried, used coffee grounds burn nicely. If there's an established fire ring, just mix them into the ashes, and the next fire will turn the grounds into more ashes.
    That seems like a lot of work for a little reward, personally I find it easier and more useful to disperse once used grounds into water sources, once they steep for a while they provide free, premade coffee for those behind me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcasm the elf View Post
    That seems like a lot of work for a little reward, personally I find it easier and more useful to disperse once used grounds into water sources, once they steep for a while they provide free, premade coffee for those behind me.
    No coffee left in the grounds when I've finished with them. I like my coffee strong enough to float a horseshoe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikes in Rain View Post
    No coffee left in the grounds when I've finished with them. I like my coffee strong enough to float a horseshoe!
    Coincidently I carry a couple of horseshoes too. When I'm high up on some steep inaccessable trail it's always fun to put a few random hoofprints in the mud just to mess with people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D2maine View Post
    it truly is a sad statement that LNT would be controversial on a hiking forum... it is not a difficult thing to follow and the results are reasonable protections for a beloved shared resource.
    It's not controversial. What's "controversial" (AKA annoying) is why on earth you insert LNT preaching in a coffee choice thread????? Of course I, and I hope most, subscribe to LNT principals. But AGAIN, what the fook does this have to do with trail coffee choices? What's next, on trail food threads are you going to preach there too?

    And what the heck does "welcome godwin" mean? No need to answer, don't really care.

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    Well that escalated. What’s the best way to make popcorn on the trail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX Aggie View Post
    Well that escalated. What’s the best way to make popcorn on the trail?
    Not sure, but if you spit out the unpopped kernals on trail: whatever you do, don't post about it on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcasm the elf View Post
    Not sure, but if you spit out the unpopped kernals on trail: whatever you do, don't post about it on the internet.
    Staying true to your name, I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colorado_rob View Post
    It's not controversial. What's "controversial" (AKA annoying) is why on earth you insert LNT preaching in a coffee choice thread????? Of course I, and I hope most, subscribe to LNT principals. But AGAIN, what the fook does this have to do with trail coffee choices? What's next, on trail food threads are you going to preach there too?

    And what the heck does "welcome godwin" mean? No need to answer, don't really care.
    i was not the person to raise leave no trace issues with disposing of used grounds, its an acceptable side bar to the topic. if not the mods can feel free to remove it as they see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcasm the elf View Post
    Not sure, but if you spit out the unpopped kernals on trail: whatever you do, don't post about it on the internet.
    there really should be a way to add rep on this forum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by D2maine View Post
    there really should be a way to add rep on this forum...
    I agree. I'll admit to actually laughing out loud to that one after reading this thread. Good one Sarcasm the elf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by devoidapop View Post
    Two easiest ways to pick a fight on WB; mention dogs or LNT. We really need a thread on keeping LNT while thru hiking with a dog.
    Love it! Point well taken.
    What was I thinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by D2maine View Post
    i was not the person to raise leave no trace issues with disposing of used grounds, its an acceptable side bar to the topic. if not the mods can feel free to remove it as they see fit.
    They won't, but I'll still say my peace too about hijacking, which of course, I am currently doing as well.

    Since it's hijacked, I do have one comment on "LNT"... As Wayne alluded to, there is simply no way to leave no trace when hiking. I know it's just semantics, but I sure wish whoever started LNT called it "Leave Minimal Trace" or something like that.

    And for the record, though I never do it (because I use instant coffee) I find no problem with burying coffee grounds in your poop hole in the morning. Not sure why coffee grounds are any more of a "trace" than poop? But to each his/her own ethics.

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    My last thought on LNT & then I’ll shut up.
    What was wrong with “Take only photos. Leave only footprints.”?
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