I did a day hike today from hog pen to low gap shelter. It took me 2 hrs to reach from the road, and three hrs to get back. The shelter was nice and the water was running in a stream beautifully. Luckily I live close enough to freez meat the night before and reach the shelter and still have ice on it. I grilled some hot dogs for some German folk and gave them a coke, and left them a fat hooter to marinade on. Plenty of thru hikers in that area. The phrase of the day , "that's the plan". Shelter good shape.