Rock bag?

[Arden]

Hi;
I had a bear bag kit which came with a nylon bag (not a dry sack) for food storage, 50ft of light cord, and a little bag to hold the rock for tossing over a branch. I sold the kit when I sold my Gregory Wind River backpack. I am looking for a combination dry sack and bear bag hanging kit, but none of the ones I have found online are both dry sack and bear bag kit. All of the kits that come with the rock bag are not waterproof.
I already have a dry sack, and the para cord, so all I need is the bag for the rock. I don't want to be bothered tying the cord directly onto the rock - the bag was so much easier.
I am looking online, and thinking maybe I could use a chalk bag. They're pretty big for a small rock, but I think a decent one would work. Is there a better alternative?
An old sock maybe?

Thanks for your advice
Arden

[soumodeler]

ZPacks sells their rock bag individually. But anything would work.

http://zpacks.com/accessories/stuff_sacks.shtml

[MuddyWaters]

Why do you need a drysak?
Put your food in gallon ziplocks,
Hang in any drawstring silnylon sack. Like cheap from walmart. Make sure rain can leak out bottom if can leak in top.

Or use turkey bag as a wateproof liner, or both

Go to grocery store and buy some garlic. Several pods come in a little mesh sack . thread your line thru the neck of mesh sack. Free.

I like mld or zpacks cuben rock sacks though, store line in them keeps it from tangling.
If you coil or wrap the line up, you will always fight tangles . You STUFF the line into the sack, it will come out with no tangles perfect every time.

[Venchka]

Someone here at WhiteBlaze said that they used a small grocery store water bottle with a bit of water or sand for weight. I tried it in my back yard and it worked like a charm.
Good luck.
Wayne


Old. Slow. "Smarter than the average bear."

[u.w.]

got any old socks, or socks that the washer/dryer monster, or couch ate the other one of?

there ya go... now a rock sack

u.w.

[Christoph]

I carry two 1 ltr water bottles and a small "filling" bottle for those hard to get a 1 ltr in those sources. I just used the small bottle with a tiny bit of water in it to throw up and over. Might be an option.

[Fireplug]

I used 50' of paracord however I took all the inner string out to cut space and weight. It held 10 days of food just fine.

[SWODaddy]

I like to use an old handkerchief....dual purpose.

[AfterParty]

OR ditty bags set on amazon. They are perfect size 3 bags also good for first aid wallet phone compass small catch all. Fill the small one and tie to the clip.

[RangerZ]

Go to grocery store and buy some garlic. Several pods come in a little mesh sack . thread your line thru the neck of mesh sack. Free.


I use a circle cut from an onion sack with a draw string. But I did appropriate the last garlic sack we got for future use. Plus the bear line fits in it.

If you figure eight the line on your thumb and pinky finger it won't tangle also. I learned it years ago in the Army, but I think that there's a You Tube out there.


If I remember right, the sheaf for suspension line holds 200 pounds and the 7 inner threads are 50 pounds each, hence 550 cord.

[Flounder940]

I too had a bear bag kit that had a rock bag. but one time the bag got entangled in the tree, and after trying to free it, the line tore away from the bag, leaving the bag in the tree. What I ultimately ended up doing, which I think works better than having a rock bag, is tying a loop, which was three inches long at the end of the line, and putting a mini cord lock on the end. Then, I would find a rock, insert it into the loop, and use the cord lock to tension the loop around the rock. I found it easier to pull the line down if it got tangled in the tree, which it seemed to do less often than a rock bag.

[Bronk]

Most people just fill a condom with sand and use that.

[BlueFeather]

The dollar store has those small organza drawstring bags that might work. Not sure if it would be big enough though.

[Puddlefish]

I too had a bear bag kit that had a rock bag. but one time the bag got entangled in the tree, and after trying to free it, the line tore away from the bag, leaving the bag in the tree. What I ultimately ended up doing, which I think works better than having a rock bag, is tying a loop, which was three inches long at the end of the line, and putting a mini cord lock on the end. Then, I would find a rock, insert it into the loop, and use the cord lock to tension the loop around the rock. I found it easier to pull the line down if it got tangled in the tree, which it seemed to do less often than a rock bag.

I lost my rock bag, and tried that exact same method. The method worked about 50% of the time. There were a lot sites however where I found a single rock in five minutes of searching, at which time the percentage of success dropped ... like a rock. Never failed, the rock would go flying down a ravine, or into some deep brush, off a cliff, or otherwise be lost.

Eventually I just started using a used ziplock as a throw bag, which also let me use a few bits of gravel, or dirt, or sticks or whatever is lying around.

[Frye]

Not sure if you're looking for just a rock bag or a kit, but MLD's is water proof, and anti gravity gear sells a pretty nice one that comes with a waterproof, odor barrier bag. I think someone already mentioned Zpacks.

If you're just looking for a rock sack, any old tiny stuff sack will do. Used both a heavy grade cuben rock sacks sold by some companies and I've used extremely cheap alternatives picked up from where ever with the same amount of success. I'm not stuffing volcanic rock in these things, and they just don't seem to take as much abuse as you'd think being thrown over trees limbs every night.

Of course others might have different experiences, but I'm pretty sure mine is par for the course.

[hikernutcasey]

This thread confuses me. It's like trying to find an answer for a problem I've never had. I have never used a "rock bag" and don't understand why there is a need for one in the first place. I just tie the end of my bear line cord around a smallish rock and fling it over the limb. Never had any problems. If you can't find a rock on the A.T. you aren't looking. What am I missing?

[Connie]

I have been using the rather long tent stakes bag: it is handy, multipurpose, tough, and retrieves well.

If not a rock, pebbles work well. I have also used sand.

[daddytwosticks]

This thread confuses me. It's like trying to find an answer for a problem I've never had. I have never used a "rock bag" and don't understand why there is a need for one in the first place. I just tie the end of my bear line cord around a smallish rock and fling it over the limb. Never had any problems. If you can't find a rock on the A.T. you aren't looking. What am I missing?

Same here.

[saltysack]

Most people just fill a condom with sand and use that.

I'd have a hard time explaining that to my wife.......


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[Diamondlil]

Most people just fill a condom with sand and use that.

No, most people don't.
However, I used a medium wt nylon Norelco bag of my husbands. Worked like a charm.


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