I'm surprised nobody has claimed to use a McFlurry spoon yet. I can't imagine a boot dug hole was much more than a 4"x2" scratch in the dirt with some leaves tossed over for good measure.
You can walk in another person's shoes, but only with your feet
Sometimes I think I was on a different trail than all of you. I almost never got a six inch hole dug and was using a deuce of spades. The ground is full of rock and roots. EVERYONE I talked to out there admitted that they could not get a proper hold dug either. I got well off the trail, did the best I could with a hole, covered it up with dirt and leaves and left a couple twigs in a cross on top.
Use pure cellulose toilet paper. Water easily dissolves it. Pee on it and it's gone :-)
http://www.essentialsupplies.ie/prod...llulose-paper/
Well, i guess my phone has decided not to let me post pictures today
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May work well on the soft ground of a lot of the AT, but I really needed my deuce of spades on the JMT because it was so rocky and the ground was hard.
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Whether you think you can, or think you can't--you're right--Henry Ford; The Journey Is The Destination
An alternative method of dealing with TP is the poup soup technique, that I learned from Charlie Thorpe, LNT Master Educator:
After depositing waste and TP / materials into the cathole,
- use a sturdy stick (not your trowel) to mix all of this with some loose soil,
- then add a cup or so of water* and mix again.
The TP, soil, and feces should not be recognizable as such once thoroughly mixed in this soup. The thorough mixing of all of the cathole contents with soil and water will speed decomposition, make animal digging less likely, and will completely avoid the “TP flower” problem.
* there is some disagreement as to how essential it really is to add water to the mix,
but if you can spare some, it does speed the mixing process
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maybe a dumb question, but how about burning the tp down in the hole? Can't say I've done it, but have thought about it when considering the dig up TP Flower
In a couple of minutes of searching and I came up with more than a dozen stories of wildfires started by people burnig Toilet Paper. Some resulted in criminal charges.
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...-toilet-paper/
http://wildfiretoday.com/tag/toilet-paper/
http://wildfiretoday.com/2011/10/30/...-toilet-paper/
http://wildfiretoday.com/2012/01/01/...-toilet-paper/
http://wildfiretoday.com/2014/11/12/...nded-sentence/
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.
Oh come on. It's in a hole, surrounded by dirt, pee, and poop, and covered in excrement. I don't think this would be how the forest fire starts.
I was referring to the horrible smell that would result from burning used TP, and don't think that anyone would actually want to burn used TP, but thanks, saints of WB!
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Two questions:
(1) anyone see a downside to this except cost? Sounds like a really good solution I never thought of.
(2) anybody know where this might be widely available at retail? The link looks like the firm only sells wholesale and a couple of minutes of googling didn't turn up too much in terms of amazon etc.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Midwest Mike;2122091]Two questions:
(1) anyone see a downside to this except cost? Sounds like a really good solution I never thought of.
(2) anybody know where this might be widely available at retail? The link looks like the firm only sells wholesale and a couple of minutes of googling didn't turn up too much in terms of amazon etc.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=zelph;2121574]Use pure cellulose toilet paper. Water easily dissolves it. Pee on it and it's gone.
If it dissolves in water, how do you wipe in the rain? I know this has been addressed as a problem with regular tp, so can only imagine with cellulose tp.
You can walk in another person's shoes, but only with your feet
I wasn't clear. people break the Coughlans solid orange one regularly.
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the black Fiskars with orange handle tip is very sturdy and digs well. it is glass-filled nylon, it can even be sharpened. $2-3 locally...
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