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    Well I'm having trouble. Sorry: Here they are. Oats have more fiber. These are both for 100 g serving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd Man Out View Post
    ...However, you might want to check your sources. The nutrition profile for quinoa and oats are almost identical...
    Ditto this. Grain is grain, roughly 4 Cal/g uncooked. Cooked might be different.
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    I don't know what those nutritional labels pertain to or where they come from. I see no ingredient or product list.

    Grain is not just grain. Different grains can have different national profiles. Nutrition is more than calories, carbs, protein and fats.

    Where cooked quinoa excels is in overall nutrition over cooked rolled oats. In one cup cooked quinoa is 222 cals, 39 grams of carbs, 8 grams of protein with all 9 essential amino acids, 5 grams of fiber, 4 grams of fat plus a host of vitamins.
    https://authoritynutrition.com/11-pr...its-of-quinoa/

    One cup cooked oatmeal is 158 cals, 27 grams of carbs, 6 grams protein NOT having all 9 essential amino acids, 4 grams of fiber, 3.2 grams fat plus some vitamins with rolled oats having the edge in Fe and B6 content.

    Quinoa is not a grain or cereal grain. Quinoa is a seed sometimes referred to as a pseudo seed. Oats are a grain and can undergo varying degrees of processing just as quinoa goes from its whole form to a further processed flake form.

    What one might do is extend the quinoa flakes, which are more expensive than either whole quinoa or rolled oats, by mixing with quick cook rolled oats. That's what I've done.

    This pertains to simple quinoa and oats no other ingredients that might be added in a packaged affair.

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    Different grains can have different nutritional profiles.

    Again, this is for unfortified 1 cp cooked comparisons.

    Here's where I took my 1 cp cooked oatmeal data oatmeal nutrition

    This is a good site for making nutritional comparison. http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/breakfast-cereals/1597/2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogwood View Post
    Different grains can have different nutritional profiles.

    Again, this is for unfortified 1 cp cooked comparisons.

    Here's where I took my 1 cp cooked oatmeal data oatmeal nutrition

    This is a good site for making nutritional comparison. http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/breakfast-cereals/1597/2
    There's a statement in the original post that quinoa has twice the calories of oatmeal. From what I can find, that's not right. And calorie density as packed is what I usually consider, not as cooked. Uncooked quinoa, according to this datum, has 102 Cal/oz. Uncooked oats have 106 per ounce.

    I didn't realize quinoa is a seed, a "pseudocereal," thanks for that. It is nutritionally superior, but it requires cooking. The OP was asking for an instant recipe, but that was perhaps based on a false assumption of energy density.
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    Don't get me wrong. I love my rolled oatmeal bought in bulk for on trail. I see it as Aria Zoner does. Oatmeal is a carrier of fiber, good carbs, decent protein, Fe, etc symbiotic spices and other ingredients that make it more than a lone wolf staple. oatmeal is so versatile. At home I love oat groats and steel cut oats for the fiber and different chewier texture that I like adding to other grains fro an entree or make rice pudding from substituting it for the common nutritionally denuded white rice.

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    There's a statement in the original post that quinoa has twice the calories of oatmeal. From what I can find, that's not right.

    I don't see that either. I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garlic08 View Post
    There's a statement in the original post that quinoa has twice the calories of oatmeal. From what I can find, that's not right. And calorie density as packed is what I usually consider, not as cooked. Uncooked quinoa, according to this datum, has 102 Cal/oz. Uncooked oats have 106 per ounce.

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    I suspect they meant quinoa has twice the protein of oatmeal, which is close to accurate.
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    Quinoa flakes don't need to be eaten warmed. You can mix with granola or rolled oats as said for lowering costs and combine with some nuts, spices, dried fruit and powered milk of choice. I'll shamelessly plug powdered coconut milk Native Forest brand. Just add tepid water. The same can be done with rolled oats.

    Another time saver is making whole quinoa for dinner making more than needed for the entree and saving some for b-fast. Eat with the powdered milk, cranberries, walnuts or almond slices or a nut butter, dried berries, dried apples, granulated dried ginger, and a pinch of cinnamon and crushed clove for b-fast. Use water you've sealed tightly stored in your sleeping bag or from the water pillow some make from their Camelback or Platypus.


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    The data I provided is for 100 g of dry uncooked quinoa and oats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd Man Out View Post
    The data I provided is for 100 g of dry uncooked quinoa and oats.
    And I'm wondering why your data show the two closer in protein content than what I've seen elsewhere. Other sources show quinoa has nearly double the protein of oats.

    Not that I care about the extra protein, and it's not going to affect my diet, but it makes me wonder about our internet data.

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    Default quinoa breakfast on the trail

    Not being a nutritionist, I should not have made any claims about the superiority of quinoa to instant oatmeal. I like oatmeal, I just prefer quinoa with some Chia seeds and dried fruit when I'm at home. If I can replicate that while I'm in the woods, awesome. If not, there are tons of easy cook/no cook breakfast options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garlic08 View Post
    And I'm wondering why your data show the two closer in protein content than what I've seen elsewhere. Other sources show quinoa has nearly double the protein of oats.

    Not that I care about the extra protein, and it's not going to affect my diet, but it makes me wonder about our internet data.
    According to the nutrition data Web site (USDA data) a cup of raw quinoa has a bit more than twice the protein of a cup of raw rolled oats. But that is because oats are less dense. A cup of quinoa weighs mores than twice that of a cup of oats. Is it possible that people who are selling quinoa or promoting the superfood du jour would cherry pick their stats to promote their cause? Yup. But there is nothing wrong with it. Quinoa will take up less room in your pack, which could be an advantage.

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    Oatmeal is not much competition... it's been described as being about as nutritious as the cardboard box that it came in.

    Please compare the nutrition of one egg to 100 g of quinoa. Lots of carbs does not equal nutrition, it equals SUGAR.

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    Does not everything convert to sugars/fuel?

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    Trader Joes has quinoa that is frozen and microwavable...not sure how this would translate out in the field. I would assume it would work as I believe it's pre cooked and you are simply reheating...but you know what they say about assuming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBrewer View Post
    Trader Joes has quinoa that is frozen and microwavable...not sure how this would translate out in the field. I would assume it would work as I believe it's pre cooked and you are simply reheating...but you know what they say about assuming.

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    They also sell oatmeal in similar packages which I am familiar with. The stuff is wet. A.K.A. heavy. The bulletproof vacuum sealed heavy packaging is heavy. I could see it working for car camping, canoeing, beach cruising and maybe bike touring.
    Back to oats. What if....
    Quick cooking steel cut oats, ground flax seeds (1 teaspoon? More?), dried/freeze dried fruit, ghee/fat of choice, water to suit. Bring to boil 1-3 minutes. Lit sit as needed. This is more trouble than it's worth for breakfast, IMO. However, it has the makings of a great chilly evening meal.
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    cook it at home, dehydrate it at home, reconstitute it on the trail. Done.

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