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I am not ultralite but I am often in awe of folks who are willing to do that. I have never thought a 15 pound or 20 pound or 17 or 22 has any noticeable difference to my hiking. It is a bother when an ultralite asks to borrow my thingy that he saved an ounce by not carrying but I don't say no.
Everything is in Walking Distance
There's fully equipped UL, and not so fully equipped UL. I've personally never had to ask to borrow anything, so I consider myself in the former category...
That all being said, I have noticed that below a certain threshold, I basically stop noticing my pack, therefore any lighter has very limited benefit. This is somewhere around 20 pounds (total pack weight) for myself, and I'm sure this threshold varies a bunch for various body types. So, with a 5 day, 8 pound food supply, along with a 2 pound quart of water, this equates to a 10 pound base weight for the 20 pound total. Any lower would provide such minimal benefit, I don't bother trying. And a 10 pound summer base weight with top quality (but expensive!) UL gear means you can carry all sorts of "extra" stuff well beyond what is needed for safety. I'm just repeating what others have already said.
It is a bother when an ultralite asks to borrow my thingy that he saved an ounce by not carrying but I don't say no.
I'm UL and I feel the same way — and that's bad form no matter what size load someone chooses to carry. However let's hope it is a single point on the learning curve for the offender and that it won't be repeated.
I had to melt snow for water for someone because his stove was poorly maintained (bad o-ring in a WG... no spare, of course) and it cut into my fuel supply (butane) more than I would have liked. We could have built a fire but it would have been super inconvenient. And I would've made him collect the wood, that's for sure, lol.
my example: (others have different results)
when I eliminated the ability to heat water, my average daily pack weight was more - and it virtually eliminated the possibility of using shipped resupply, so at some points on the trail added a significant time / inconvenience penalty for resupply
I have a Turkish Angora cat that, aged 9 ,adopted me.He is now 11(did not like his previous owner)
He has a very fine fur. I might try that.
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AT: 695.7 mi
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Boamboo bob,
The really different is when you get to a point, you no longer notice a pack is on your back. If your hiking with less than 10 total pounds on your back. A hiker over 200 pounds, is not going to even notice he/she is carrying a pack. It give you a sense of new freedom to just hike and be part of nature. Where some hikers like to mix-up UL with irresponsible backpacking, is being prepared. A true UL should not be asking to borrow equipment or begging for food. It is up to every hiker to be full prepared.
Wolf
Agreed. If someone needs to use something I have because their gear malfunctioned, broke, was stolen, or lost for some reason other than carelessness, no problem. But if it's due to poor decision making, they'll get to use it in return for hearing my opinion on making good choices in the backcountry.
“He is richest who is content with the least, for content is the wealth of nature.” –Socrates
I can relate to going too far in the ultralight quest. How so? When I am wearing everything I have in my pack and am still a bit chilly in my sleeping bag, I know that I cut it too close. I am now ultralight(+). The (+) is safety and/or comfort gear that is worth the extra weight.
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