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    Default I give up... Test your knowledge!

    I picked up what I believe to be a great pack for a killer deal. Its older but in wonderful shape. Its an REI Traverse New Star. Picked up for $15 (well, 2 for $30) at an estate sale. And its flawless as far as I can tell. I've only used it camping/mining around Yosemite for 5 days, but it's comfortable enough with about 50lbs and I really like it... Plus it's huge! I think it's like a 90L+10 with the hood/daypack.

    ...but I can't for the life of me figure out what some of these exterior features do or go to... Anyone want to shed some light?

    Bottom of pack.
    1. Strap
    2. ???

    #1 goes through #2 for some reason.



    1. Strap
    3. Loop

    #1 continues upward. And there are 2 x #3.


    2. ???
    4. Plastic loop
    5. Another strap

    #1 stops at another #2 with a buckle to toghten it. There are 4 x #4. And #5 starts at another #2 and goes upward.



    6. Clip
    7. Velcro loop

    #5 runs through yet another #2 and ends up on a #6. There are 2 x #7.



    Here's an overall look of that helps.



    Am I missing anything? Is the current setup correct? And what, ideally, would be using these features? I'm guessing I could use the strap(s) to secure my tent to the outside of my pack.

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    3 & 7 are ice ace loops and holders. See this image as an example.

    1 are tie down/compression straps

    2 are just tie-outs to run straps though to tie things onto your pack with.

    6 would normally (probably) be used to attach to and hold down the top lid of your pack.
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    We used to call the loops in #3 ice ax loops. Never carried an ice ax, and never found a use for the loops.

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    No No Those straps were popular on REI backpacks in the 70's and 80's so one could convert easily into a parachute harness. At one time REI was a big purveyor of skydiving equipment. These packs were their light multi use version for backpackers and skydivers. DB Cooper was possibly thought to have been wearing one when he jumped out of the airplane. After the hijacking and ransom get away REI fearing copycats discontinued the pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thestin View Post
    We used to call the loops in #3 ice ax loops. Never carried an ice ax, and never found a use for the loops.
    Yep, 3&7 are for Ice tools, 2&5 are for lashing on crampons among other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcasm the elf View Post
    Yep, 3&7 are for Ice tools, 2&5 are for lashing on crampons among other things.

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    Def. a winter pack. I do like the abrasion protection for the crampons, ice axes and other pointy gear on the lashing pad. This pack weighs a ton, but is a winter brute.

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    The #'s 1-2 are bottom straps and strap holders keeping these two straps parallel with each other and not scooting off to the side. Most people consider these straps to be sleeping bag straps (on older Keltys) but I use them all the time to hold my tent.


    Here are the bottom straps holding my tent.


    In your pic #2 holds these bottoms straps parallel to the bottom, the same thing the two metal rings do on my pack---barely visible in the pic.



    This pic better shows the metal rings keeping the bottom straps parallel. W/o these your straps could slide off to either side.


    #s 5-6 look just like top lid straps and buckles; or pack compression straps since the pack has a "luggage" type main body zipper.

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    Thanks guys. Nice to understand it a little better. I certainly didn't know why the straps went through the holders. I was about to take then out so I could actually wrap something up with them.

    Looks like everyone skipped over the 4 plastic loops, #4, what would those be for? Am I missing some elastic to stretch between them to hold something to the back side of the pack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilgodwin View Post
    Thanks guys. Nice to understand it a little better. I certainly didn't know why the straps went through the holders. I was about to take then out so I could actually wrap something up with them.

    Looks like everyone skipped over the 4 plastic loops, #4, what would those be for? Am I missing some elastic to stretch between them to hold something to the back side of the pack?

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    #4 Appears to be a set of clip or lashing points for attaching something to the bag. I'm not sure what it's for, but it could very well be to attach some type of older crampon bag as it's in the right location for that.
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    Ah. I didn't know what they were talking about when I saw crampons. Just looked them up. Got it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogwood View Post
    No No Those straps were popular on REI backpacks in the 70's and 80's so one could convert easily into a parachute harness. At one time REI was a big purveyor of skydiving equipment. These packs were their light multi use version for backpackers and skydivers. DB Cooper was possibly thought to have been wearing one when he jumped out of the airplane. After the hijacking and ransom get away REI fearing copycats discontinued the pack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogwood View Post
    No No Those straps were popular on REI backpacks in the 70's and 80's so one could convert easily into a parachute harness. At one time REI was a big purveyor of skydiving equipment. These packs were their light multi use version for backpackers and skydivers. DB Cooper was possibly thought to have been wearing one when he jumped out of the airplane. After the hijacking and ransom get away REI fearing copycats discontinued the pack.
    DB Cooper was a BOSS.
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    I still carry an ice ax, you just never know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by elray View Post
    I still carry an ice ax, you just never know!
    Sometimes they come in handy. I used mine on this trip. You can see those lash points in use - both guys in the picture have ice axes and crampon bags. The extra D rings that you were asking about got used to lash on the snowshoes and poles when we switched to crampons and ice axes.
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