How is NeoAir Xlite (Reg) folded for repacking?

[cmoulder]

How does a stuff sack protect it (and from what) when it's inside your pack? Sometimes I think people do things simply because that's the way it has always been done.

Rise up and free yourself from the chains of stuff-sackery!

[Don H]

The delam of the baffle pleats was more an issue on the earliest Neo Air versions. I had two that CD replaced freely without charge but that's going back a couple of yrs. It may be as said but I think the baffle seam pleats deconstructing was caused by more than wet warm air blown into the mattress.

I sent a Neo back for baffle delam two weeks ago. We'll see if they're still replacing them under warrantee.

[HooKooDooKu]

I sent a Neo back for baffle delam two weeks ago. We'll see if they're still replacing them under warrantee.

They come with a Lifetime Warranty so I don't see why not (however the warranty states that if they replace a product more than 2 years after its manufacture date, the replacement might be a cosmetically irregular).

[Dogwood]

I'm sure in some inventories there are old Neoair versions. Regardless, the Neo Air is a UL/SUL inflatable pad needing TLC. Plopping down heavily on it especially near the ends can put added pressure on pleat seams. I don't know if that's what happened to you Don. Just offering that up for possible consideration. I do agree with HKDK though. If pleat seams are delaminating CD should warranty the product or add clear disclaimers to the outside packaging.

[CalebJ]

Seam delam seems to be a common complaint on the SynMat Hyperlite as well. I just ordered one of them yesterday since STP has them at $100 ($75 after coupon). For roughly the same specs as an XLite (aside from longitudinal baffles) it was hard to turn down. Hopefully they've improved the design and/or handle warranty repairs efficiently.

[colorado_rob]

... Rise up and free yourself from the chains of stuff-sackery!

LOL! Love that one. But of course, PYOP.

[cmoulder]

I don't inflate them too firmly because usually I end up letting air out anyway. Just seems to put less stress on the whole shebang when it bottoms out while I'm sitting on it and conforms to body contours better when lying on it.

[Dogwood]

Seam delam seems to be a common complaint on the SynMat Hyperlite as well. I just ordered one of them yesterday since STP has them at $100 ($75 after coupon). For roughly the same specs as an XLite (aside from longitudinal baffles) it was hard to turn down. Hopefully they've improved the design and/or handle warranty repairs efficiently.

Since it's blown up with a pump my assumption is that it gets even less warm moist breath than the NeoAir so it's my assumption pleat seam delam isn't caused just by that. In the never ending UL quest to claim the lowest inflatable wt pad product on the market I wonder how it plays in the design and individual usage experiences.

As repeatedly pointed out by ULers UL/SUL gear most often demands extra TLC and considerations.

[Dogwood]

I don't inflate them too firmly because usually I end up letting air out anyway. Just seems to put less stress on the whole shebang when it bottoms out while I'm sitting on it and conforms to body contours better when lying on it.

Me too. Then, never stand or heavily plop down on it.

Caleb that was a good alternative inflatable pad saving some do re mi. Wish they had a similar NeoAir Shortie or Neo Air Woman's size at a similar wt.

[CalebJ]

STP does have the Neo Air Women's for $120, but coupons don't apply.

[Don H]

They come with a Lifetime Warranty so I don't see why not (however the warranty states that if they replace a product more than 2 years after its manufacture date, the replacement might be a cosmetically irregular).

Well the FedX truck just delivered a brand new (not an irregular) Neo XLite, in the box with the stuff sack and patch kit 3 weeks after I sent the old one back.

I'd consider that excellent customer service. Thanks Cascade Designs!

Dogwood, I don't think the baffle delimitation was from plopping down on the pad. My SMD Lunar Solo tent doesn't have enough room for plopping.

[HooKooDooKu]

Well I decided to pull the trigger an buy a last-year's model NeoAir Xlite (Regular) for $100.77.
It's in the Campsaver.com Outlet, and you just need to use coupon code OUTLET20.
http://www.campsaver.com/outlet/ther...e-sleeping-pad
At the moment I posted this, they had about 9 left in stock.

[Dogwood]

Don H is no plopper.

Glad it worked out for you. Fed Ex hey?

[Franco]

With my mats I first roll them up without folding them with the valve open.Then I close the valve, roll it out again , fold them in half , roll up and open the valve up as I roll the last turn or two. Takes about a minute to do.

[Venchka]

With my mats I first roll them up without folding them with the valve open.Then I close the valve, roll it out again , fold them in half , roll up and open the valve up as I roll the last turn or two. Takes about a minute to do.

Yep. It takes two rolls to expel the air. Then my Xtherm Large drops right in the stuff sack.
Give up the stuff sack hey? I'll ponder that.
Wayne


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[saltysack]

Yep. It takes two rolls to expel the air. Then my Xtherm Large drops right in the stuff sack.
Give up the stuff sack hey? I'll ponder that.
Wayne


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What purpose does that sack serve?


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[MuddyWaters]

Yep. It takes two rolls to expel the air.

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Takes me one

[ScareBear]

What purpose does that sack serve?


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As a container to store the pad in?

[MuddyWaters]

As a container to store the pad in?

Why put a pad in a sack?

Other than being type A that is..

[cmoulder]

As a container to store the pad in?

There's already a large container for that — the backpack!