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    Facebook group: "Backcountry Meal Planning for Thru Hikers" actively works on recipes and planning food for long trail thru hikers.

    I saw this graphic poster there.

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    Thank you. Saved for printing and shopping.
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    I looked at the website. It is a resource.

    http://www.trail.recipes/
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    I have to question a Table with the heading TOP 10 Hiking Foods - Highest In Calories with these items:

    Rice 130 cal for 100 g(3.53 oz) serving - 36 cal/oz ratio
    Pasta 158 cal in 100g serving - 44 cal/oz ratio Cous Cous is also a pasta but more dense and with a lower cal/oz ratio. Why isn't quinoa on this list as it supersedes the cal/oz and nutrients of these staples?

    Red lentils 116 cal in 100 g serving - 32 cal/oz ratio
    Tuna in oil 198 cal in 100 g serving - 56 cal/oz ratio
    Apricots 250 cal in 100 g serving - 71 cal/oz
    Salmon jerky 257 cal in 100 g serving - 72/cal/oz
    Beef jerky 286 cal for 100 g serving - 81 cal/oz

    These items(mostly single items, NOT many ingredient meals) might be popular but highest cal/oz ratios is questionable. Biggest help in the table from my perspective is to learn how to attempt to balance out a lower cal/oz ratio item with other much higher cal/oz and nutrient dense items to raise the overall cal/oz and nutrient density to meet individuals needs.

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    Dogwood. Let's make a better list.

    That group has been making lists of calorie dense and nutrient dense.

    I work on making those lists myself, however I do not have the software to do so.

    The USDA has only limited software online and I do not have software that dietitians have.

    There are some PDF's for download at that Facebook group "Files" section.
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    If bacon isn't going to make it high on the list prolly no one here will look at it.

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    I made a PDF Protein - all foods, for example, using the USDA National Nutrient Data Base.

    I have no idea how to upload a PDF.

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    I'm curious.. Are those calorie counts for dry foods, or for cooked, perhaps with added fat (butter). Straight carbs, such as rice, couscous, sugar, and oatmeal should all be very close to equal,.
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    This is what I use.
    https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/

    I do not see how to share PDF's here.
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    Protein Top 10

    egg whites, stabilized, glucose reduced
    egg substitute powder
    tofu, dried
    peanut flour, defatted
    soy flour, soy meal
    seeds, sesame, flour
    egg whole dried
    protein substitute, milk based powder
    parmesan cheese
    bacon



    Kcal Top 10

    bacon
    ghee (butter oil)
    pork, variety meats
    beef, variety meats
    nuts: macadamia, pecans, pine nuts, brazil nuts, hickory nuts, walnuts, hazelnuts, filberts
    butter, whipped
    coconut meat
    egg yolk, dried
    pork, variety meats
    peanut spread


    Bacon made the Top 10 in both lists.

    I purchased Bacon Jerky, and it was delicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogwood View Post
    If bacon isn't going to make it high on the list prolly no one here will look at it.
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    Connie,
    Which brand of Bacon Jerky did you purchase? Not all brands are equal.
    Thanks!
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    Aaron Owens made a list of commercially available meals by Kcal/oz over at Facebook: Backcountry Meal Planning for Thru Hikers

    Here are the top of the list commercial trail meals: Kcal/oz

    Backpacker's Pantry, Sante Fe Style Rice w/Chicken
    AlpineAire, Black Bart Chili with Beef and Beans
    Backpacker's Pantry, Kung Pao Rice w/Chicken
    Backpacker's Pantry, Lasagne
    AlpineAire, Mountain Chili
    Trailtopia, Pesto Chicken Pasta
    PackIt Gourmet, All American Works Burger (needs tortillas)
    PackIt Gourmet, Pizza Margarita Wrap (needs tortillas)
    Mountain House, Macaroni & Cheese
    Backyard Pantry, Pad Thai
    Backyard Pantry, Katmandu Curry
    Backyard Pantry, Pesto Salmon w Pasta
    Backyard Pantry, Fettuccini Alfredo w/Chicken
    Mountain House, Lasagna with Beef

    1 per week is about it for me, and Mountain House Pro Pak Lasagna w/Beef is a favorite.

    I also look over PackIt Gourmet entrees and soups.

    I add olive oil packets or carry a small (non-glass) container of olive oil to every dish.

    If tired of olive oil, add salad dressing packets.

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    Oberto All Natural Bacon Jerky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connie View Post
    Oberto All Natural Bacon Jerky
    Thanks!
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    Connie and Everyone,
    I recently saw individual serving packs of coconut oil at my favorite Alternative Food store. On my backpacking shopping list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connie View Post
    Facebook group: "Backcountry Meal Planning for Thru Hikers" actively works on recipes and planning food for long trail thru hikers.

    I saw this graphic poster there.

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    Connie,

    Would you be so kind as to ask an admin at that fB group to approve my join request. Thank you.

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    You should look at more than calories/oz. Consider how your body uses those calories. It uses sugar differently than beef jerky.
    Some pretty high calorie foods are boderline toxic, besides lacking nutrition. Sorry, snickers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockDoc View Post
    You should look at more than calories/oz. Consider how your body uses those calories. It uses sugar differently than beef jerky.
    Some pretty high calorie foods are boderline toxic, besides lacking nutrition. Sorry, snickers.
    THANK YOU! at least one other person agrees with me a little on this point.

    Honestly, I try not to preach about food and nutrition but I just shake my head when I see the meals people eat.
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