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    Quote Originally Posted by HooKooDooKu View Post
    Does anyone know the name of this knot?
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    It's a type of slider knot that is very close to an "improved clinch knot". But a clinch knot is usually used to tie fishing line to a fish hook, uses about 4 to 6 loops around the main line, and the knot is slid all the way down to the hook.

    But when I use this knot to tie tent guylines, only three loops are needed around the main line. Once the knot is cinched tight against the main line, the knot holds under tension. But while holding the main knot in place, it is very easy to pull the main line thru the knot to tighten or loosen the guylines.

    Like with many knots, if you fold the tail into a loop sending the tail back in the direction it came from and cinching the knot with the loop, the knot easily unties by pulling out the looped tail.
    I don't know what it is called today, but it looks like a taut-line hitch. Very good for guy lines as it will hold even in windy conditions.
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    truckers hitch for tarp ridgelines
    taut line hitch for tarp tie-outs
    prussiks for hanging tarp from ridgeline
    sheet bend for tarp tie-outs
    bowline for making easy-to-remove loops
    larks-head for using those loops to attach to things

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggreaves View Post
    truckers hitch for tarp ridgelines
    taut line hitch for tarp tie-outs
    prussiks for hanging tarp from ridgeline
    sheet bend for tarp tie-outs
    bowline for making easy-to-remove loops
    larks-head for using those loops to attach to things
    and... if you're into hanging your bed between 2 trees
    splicing whoopie slings
    splicing continuous loops
    splicing adjustable ridgelines

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    I can tie a monkey's fist. Which is mostly handy as a party trick, and those really rare occasions when I need to toss a line across a distance, and have three minutes to prepare. Possibly why I don't attend a lot of parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puddlefish View Post
    ...Never upscaled it beyond monofilament line, or tried to untie it.
    I find it works great with any kind of twine or rope so long as there is something for the knot to bite on.
    Something ultra smooth like monofilament line or dental floss and the knot slips all the way down under load.
    Something semi-smooth like the white twine you find for tying down loads an many build material stores might require a 4th loop to get enough to bite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeBill View Post
    I don't know what it is called today, but it looks like a taut-line hitch. Very good for guy lines as it will hold even in windy conditions.
    It's not quite a taut-line hitch... at least not this one.

    The taut-line hitch is a little more complicated because the 1st two loops around the standing end go INSIDE the bight advancing toward the bight.

    But with the knot I'm describing, it's three (or more) loops around the standing end in the direction away from the bight. Then feed the working end thru the bight and back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HooKooDooKu View Post
    It's not quite a taut-line hitch... at least not this one.

    The taut-line hitch is a little more complicated because the 1st two loops around the standing end go INSIDE the bight advancing toward the bight.

    But with the knot I'm describing, it's three (or more) loops around the standing end in the direction away from the bight. Then feed the working end thru the bight and back.
    Yes I see it clearly now. I think some one mentioned it looks like something used for fishing.
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    I'm a sailor and there are a lot of different knots used on sailboats. However, for hiking so far, I haven't used anything other than a bowline and a square knot.

    There are a lot of small books and even pamphlets that list knots and how to tie them.

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    I would say all outdoorsman (not just hikers), need to know the bowline, the tautline hitch, half hitches, clove hitch, sheet bend, square knot, overhand or figure eight loop, and the trucker's hitch (which requires knowledge of a loop knot and half hitches).

    (those happen to be 5 of the 6 required Boy Scout knots, with the truckers hitch and loop knots added). The other BSA knot is the timber hitch, which I have never used outside of showing Scouts how to tie it. The others are in my outdoor repertoire.
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    Another one that is super handy for splicing very dissimilar pieces together is the Albright Knot. I used it recently to join together some 5/8" webbing and some 2.2mm cord.

    Edit to add: I don't think it needs 10 wraps of the smaller cord in order to work well... I used only 5 for my application, which was joining bear bag line to the webbing.
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    Truckers hitch is probably the most useful knot I ever learned. If you need to cinch something down this is the one to do it with.
    I will give you the most leverage than you can get with just rope.
    Very easy to master after a couple tries.

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    I find myself using a tautline hitch all the time, and an occasional square not, clove hitch, or basic overhand knot. Most of the others I haven't used in long enough that I'm probably very rusty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puddlefish View Post
    Same one I used for fishhooks, it's an improved clinch knot as far as I can tell. You can put a whole bunch of turns on it, but some fall out. It's good to prevent line breakage under load. Never upscaled it beyond monofilament line, or tried to untie it.
    Thats not an improved clinch knot. Here is a link to a picture of an improved clinch knot.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=impr...YO3X0Zch57qHM:

    Grogs Animated knots is an excellent knot tying app.

    http://www.animatedknots.com/iphoned...hp#ScrollPoint

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    Any of the basic 5 scout knots.
    Square
    Bowline
    Clove hitch
    Tautline hitch
    Two half hitches

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpburdelljr View Post
    Thats not an improved clinch knot. Here is a link to a picture of an improved clinch knot.
    It looks like I'm pretty much talking about a type of "improved clinch knot" (specifically this one, but NOT this one... the difference being which side of the bight the working end goes thru).
    The biggest difference is that you DO NOT pull the knot all the way down, you instead use it as a slider knot.

    My version of a trucker's hitch is to start with the inline figure 8 (like the actual trucker's hitch starts), but then I use my modified improved clinch knot to tie the working end thru the figure 8 to itself. Once again, the modified improved clinch knot can be slid up and down the line to loosen or tighten the hitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bayview View Post
    Any of the basic 5 scout knots.
    Square
    Bowline
    Clove hitch
    Tautline hitch
    Two half hitches
    I find the square knot useless for anything but tying up a package (which I rarely do). Sheet bend does the same thing better and safer. Truckers hitch, and variations of it , are infinitely more useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feral Bill View Post
    I find the square knot useless for anything but tying up a package (which I rarely do). Sheet bend does the same thing better and safer. Truckers hitch, and variations of it , are infinitely more useful.
    Can't do a trucker's hitch without a loop knot and half hitches.
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