Exactly right with the CCF pad as I use it for many things---as an in-tent sit pad when arriving to camp to cook dinner etc---as a reststop pad when using my pack as a back rest---under or over my sleeping pad when very cold---as an emergency pad when a Thermarest blows a bubble or leaks etc. Unfortunately but like always Thermarest discontinued their warmest and best CCF pad, the Solar at 3.4 I think Rvalue.