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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    Corfam!

    That spit shine was all for show anyway while wearing dress uniform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabigabs View Post
    I started PCT in Altra Lone Peaks but I did not like them. My feet were constantly tired and sore, especially once we got to the volcanic areas of the Cascades. That's when I switched. I didn't go back to leather boots (though I still wear them and love them for winter hiking and backpacking) but I finished in Merrell Hiking Shoes. Loved them so much better. I'm planning on wearing them for my next thru-hike as well. On the other hand, we met many people who finished the trail in runners and were perfectly happy with them.
    With what Merrell's did you finish?

    Altra LP's are a moderate cush. Foot soreness can develop as a NOBO PCTer transitons from the generally softer underfoot tread of the first 700 miles or so going out at more moderated daily/weekly mileage avgs and less hrs hiking into the northern California volcanic geology as they also start cranking up to higher daily/weekly mileage and hrs on the feet hiking by reaching Lassen NP with the longest days of the yr and we'll into full thru hiker mode.

    Your occurence of sore feet going into northern CA has been voiced before. It's sometimes due a lack of understanding LD shoe needs as terrain and trail living changes or progresses.

    What some PCTers do is start with a desert trail runner of more mininalist less cushy more breathable design and switch out around KM to a trail runner for snow travel rocking that for another 600 to 800 miles. Then rockin to a cushier design as the compacted volcanic tread kicks in and the weekly mileage cranks up.

    When I hear of thrus attempting 2500 mile PCT hikes in one brand and model of low cush minimalist trail runners without no problems I wonder what's going on.

    Although not as popular as they once we're with so many hikers, including LD types commonly approaching hikes in cookie cutter fashion and expecting information in sound bite low info fashion, Yogi's - Jackie McDonnel's Trail Guides and trail guides like the PCT Wilderness Press offer this info for pre hike preparation that readily can translate to better on trail and gear experiences.

    IN short, acounts as yours is not a narrowed overly generalized boot verse trail runner issue. It can be a lack of appropriate trail runner choice made by the hiker out of some ignorance. I've been here too.

    Go to any high end on pt living the life running store what is asked is your weekly mileage. That's being asked to better assess suggesting an appropriate shoe and cush. IN my honest sincere opinion more hikers would be better served getting these experts advice rather than Internet shoe
    hiking "experts" opinions.

    I slap my head with the level of so much misappropriated discussion over hiking and backpacking gear that is really a lower or non priority while one of if not the highest gear priority to get dialed in is what's on the feet.

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    Injection molded soles, full Nubuk leather uppers, seam sealing and SnoSeal as needed hiking shoes work well. Alas, they are hard to find. I managed to get my hands on 3 pair of Merrell Radius Hiking shoes as they were being discontinued. I alternate the Radius with Ultra Raptors.
    Zero Gore-Tex on my feet.
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    I slap my head with the level of so much misappropriated discussion over hiking and backpacking gear that is really a lower or non priority while one of if not the highest gear priority to get dialed in is what's on the feet.


    There are very few (if any) gear/clothing/shelter questions whose answers should not begin with "It depends."
    UL, because nobody ever asks "How can I make my pack heavier?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    There are very few (if any) gear/clothing/shelter questions whose answers should not begin with "It depends." [/COLOR]
    Followed by “A, B, C thru X, Y & Z work for me. That’s all that matters.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venchka View Post
    Followed by “A, B, C thru X, Y & Z work for me. That’s all that matters.”
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    There's also that not so elusive "herd mentality" whereby years ago the most popular tent on the AT was the Sierra Designs Clip Flashlight and then it changed to another similarly widely purchased tent like the TarpTent or Gatewood Cape or whatever else. Or the proliferation of Osprey packs in the last decade. The herd picks out the same stuff. This goes for the current fascination with trail runners. Remember when the New Balance 5?? hiking shoe was all the rage??

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    Tipi, is it also reasonable to consider that the Exos packs are popular because they've worked well for a lot of people (myself included, have owned one since the first generation)? Or that trail runners have been steadily increasing in popularity for roughly 20 years? I'm not dismissing herd mentality, but it's hardly the only force at work here.

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    I tried the lighter weight boots and hated them. I am on my third pair of, very heavy all leather, Vasque boots. I just had them resoled and they will out live me. The stiff structure is great for rocky trails.
    There are so many miles and so many mountains between here and there that it is hardly worth thinking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlyriser26 View Post
    I tried the lighter weight boots and hated them. I am on my third pair of, very heavy all leather, Vasque boots. I just had them resoled and they will out live me. The stiff structure is great for rocky trails.
    I too like my stouter boots for backpacking, although if I were skipping down the trail with a full load of 15 pounds I could go barefoot or stay in my crocs or wear tennis shoes. Which brings up two main factors in shoe choice: Daily Mileage Desired and Pack Weight.

    Although sherpas have been known to backpack 100 lb loads barefoot, the heavier the pack the stouter I like my boot. As Earlyriser says, they are also better on rocky trails. So pack weight has alot to do with shoe choice---as does amount of miles you want to hike per day.

    My heavy Zamberlans come in at around 3 lbs 8 oz per pair and compared to barefeet or crocs or minimal shoes this is heavy. For someone wanting to pull 20 mile days with a 15 lb pack, well, these boots are not needed. For someone with a 90 lb pack on 5 mile days they work perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalebJ View Post
    Tipi, is it also reasonable to consider that the Exos packs are popular because they've worked well for a lot of people (myself included, have owned one since the first generation)? Or that trail runners have been steadily increasing in popularity for roughly 20 years? I'm not dismissing herd mentality, but it's hardly the only force at work here.

    Nicely said.

    Much like the move to 2p tents for larger people. Or the resurgence of 1p tents for shorter hikers.

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