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    Default Penn State says wilderness is too risky for outdoors clubs

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    Comedy gold: "Penn State conducted a “proactive risk assessment” not based on any previous participant injuries, according to Powers. She said Outing Club activities were rated high risk because they take place in remote environments with poor cell service and distance from emergency services."
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    I looked for a dateline and didn't see April 1......

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    What in the world did we do before cellphones.

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    Well I guess Penn State football is closing down

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    Not as risky as the football team's showers.

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    Comedy gold: "Penn State conducted a “proactive risk assessment” not based on any previous participant injuries, according to Powers. She said Outing Club activities were rated high risk because they take place in remote environments with poor cell service and distance from emergency services."
    I can't see Dartmouth engaging in such cowardly behavior, or almost all other colleges for that matter. This takes risk averse, lawyer-driven behavior to new levels of fearful nutlessness.

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    Can just turn a blind eye to child molestation... But damn it you better not go hiking.
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    I can honestly say that I look down on Penn state and all of this silliness. From three weeks ago......

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
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    Comedy gold: "Penn State conducted a “proactive risk assessment” not based on any previous participant injuries, according to Powers. She said Outing Club activities were rated high risk because they take place in remote environments with poor cell service and distance from emergency services."
    What about 500 years ago when guys such as Columbus and Magellen sailed into vast unknown seas without even a map?

    Magellan famously said "It's necessary to adventure. It's not necessary to live."
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    The hiking community is better off without PSU students (or alumns) on trails. Their blind loyalty to PSU is very cult-like and makes them just creepy - sort of like the Yellow Deli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malto View Post
    I can honestly say that I look down on Penn state and all of this silliness. From three weeks ago......

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    Looks like a view from Mt Nittany. If it is, did ya buy a square inch of real estate while you were up there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malto View Post
    I can honestly say that I look down on Penn state and all of this silliness. From three weeks ago......

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    hey be careful up there, you could die of hape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
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    Comedy gold: "Penn State conducted a “proactive risk assessment” not based on any previous participant injuries, according to Powers. She said Outing Club activities were rated high risk because they take place in remote environments with poor cell service and distance from emergency services."
    And interestingly, they have an Outdoor Adventure organization, which offers similar trips but with university staffers leading the trips instead of students (like the Outing Club). It's just infantilizing the college students. The good thing is that nothing stops them from taking an outing not related to either organization.
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    Comedy gold: "Penn State conducted a “proactive risk assessment” not based on any previous participant injuries, according to Powers. She said Outing Club activities were rated high risk because they take place in remote environments with poor cell service and distance from emergency services."
    All this discussion of risk assessment reminds me of an incident a few years ago. I was president of a small college in the Boston area. One of the science professors invited me to go along on a field trip to study volcanoes on the big island of Hawaii. The professor led the group of students (and me) out on the lava flow to the point that the lava was still liquid. He warned all of us that we were standing on a thin crust of hardened lava. He said that below us the lava was still flowing and told a story about someone who had broken through the lava crust and fell into the hot lava. When I got a chance, I called the professor to one side and asked, "Aren't you concerned about the possible liability of bringing all of these students out here on the lava?" He looked at me with an innocent look and said, "Not at all. I am with my college president."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore View Post
    The hiking community is better off without PSU students (or alumns) on trails. Their blind loyalty to PSU is very cult-like and makes them just creepy - sort of like the Yellow Deli.
    A couple years ago, hiking from RT4 in Maine to RT27, we ran into a hiker from Pedd State dumping his pasta water on the ground, and washing his dishes in the water source. He went by the name Captian Jack. Yes, that's how he spelled it in all the shelter logs. Turns out he was studying to be a naturalist or forest ranger or some such crap. He was complaining about the sanctions Pedd State had to endure from the NCAA and how it wasn't fair. I had to explain to him that he was defending a pedaphile and he wasn't on the moral high horse. He was do dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore View Post
    The hiking community is better off without PSU students (or alumns) on trails. Their blind loyalty to PSU is very cult-like and makes them just creepy - sort of like the Yellow Deli.
    A couple years ago, hiking from RT4 in Maine to RT27, we ran into a hiker from Pedd State dumping his pasta water on the ground, and washing his dishes in the water source. He went by the name Captian Jack. Yes, that's how he spelled it in all the shelter logs. Turns out he was studying to be a naturalist or forest ranger or some such crap. He was complaining about the sanctions Pedd State had to endure from the NCAA and how it wasn't fair. I had to explain to him that he was defending a pedaphile and he wasn't on the moral high horse. He was do dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutterbug View Post
    All this discussion of risk assessment reminds me of an incident a few years ago. I was president of a small college in the Boston area. One of the science professors invited me to go along on a field trip to study volcanoes on the big island of Hawaii. The professor led the group of students (and me) out on the lava flow to the point that the lava was still liquid. He warned all of us that we were standing on a thin crust of hardened lava. He said that below us the lava was still flowing and told a story about someone who had broken through the lava crust and fell into the hot lava. When I got a chance, I called the professor to one side and asked, "Aren't you concerned about the possible liability of bringing all of these students out here on the lava?" He looked at me with an innocent look and said, "Not at all. I am with my college president."
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    Apparently this thread is duplicating responses.
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    It seems to me that if a outing club sponsors an event, the students signing up to join them are volunteering for the activity. If the club included a clause in the sign up form holding both the club and the University harmless in the event of injury or death you have cover your ars. Additionally they should include a full description of what the exactly the event will entail and known risks the activity presents, again they are spelling things out pretty clearly. Some law student or professor could help draft the signup form. Just my opinion.
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