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    We just got confirmation from Joren: 4d7h39m !!!

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    Awesome.
    Congratulations Karel.
    This has been better than TV.
    I think both records are truly incredible and won't be broken for some time.
    At least 5 years?
    Don't let your fears stand in the way of your dreams

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbakwin View Post
    We just got confirmation from Joren: 4d7h39m !!!
    did you mean 41d...? or is that how much he beat the record?

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    Finished (source fastestknowntime.com) "about 12:11pm on the 28th"

    See my post #320:
    “And if he can finish by around 1230 Tuesday, he beats Scott’s time by 5 days.”

    Karel 41d 7h 39m
    Scott 46d 8h 7m

    Nailed!
    My prediction wins. Karel did it. Awesome.

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    Absolutely incredible. Epic journey. Outstanding!

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    good stuff

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    Wow, spectacular run!
    Plaid is fast! Ticks suck, literally... It’s ok, bologna hoses off…
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    Oh man, I'd love for String Bean/Flash to take on Deerfoot's supported record. Even better if it was during the same hiking season and one went SoBO and the other went NoBo. You reading this, fellas? Get on this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by black chucks View Post
    Finished (source fastestknowntime.com) "about 12:11pm on the 28th"

    See my post #320:
    “And if he can finish by around 1230 Tuesday, he beats Scott’s time by 5 days.”

    Karel 41d 7h 39m
    Scott 46d 8h 7m

    Nailed!
    My prediction wins. Karel did it. Awesome.
    Why is Scott's time relevant? Karl Meltzer surpassed that in 2016.

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    Amazing achievement! SB's record is a different animal. You'd expect the large margin between the supported and unsupported. I think it'll be awhile before we see either surpassed, although I'd love to eat my own words

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    Congratulations Karel.

    This proves how amazing the human body is when tuned correctly.

    Makes me want to go hiking..... at a slower pace lol


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    Congrats Karel!
    AT: 695.7 mi
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    Pinhoti Trail '18-19'
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbakwin View Post
    I think SB's record is "harder" - it requires many more skills than just running & not getting hurt, plus emotionally it is much harder to do it all yourself & be on top of all the logistics yourself for that long. BUT, in an important way, SB's record is "easier" to tackle because you don't have to find people to support you for 6 weeks! For this reason, I think it's likely more people will try to beat SB's time than Karel's. Anyway, I'd love to SB go after Karel's supported FKT !!! (or Joey???)
    A fair point indeed.
    Stringbean is one of the few to go it both ways. Might be telling that he went solo his second time... or it might be simple logistics.

    Joey is Joey. You never know what wild hair will infest his rectum. Though when last he walked the crooked path and fell off the cliff into that dark place he managed to catch himself and scramble out. He found the good road he was looking for, finishing whole and proud. So I'm not sure what is out there for him to find truth be told.


    A gauntlet has been thrown. Team runner stands atop the overall podium once more.


    Both numbers are stout... but maybe if Killian ever gets sick of climbing Everest or whatever he's doing he might be up for a simple hike. Maybe Jared Campbell is tired of frozen head state park by now. Maybe Krupka can shoulder that Bakwin pack instead of that little 11L vest for a bit

    There are no shortage of humans on this planet... and I think the myth and mystique of these long trail FKT's are slowly permeating the mindset of the ultra world. There may be no purse, aid stations, or sponsorship push to add these to one's resume... but the woods are calling their pure song and more an more hear it.

    Going solo requires only one super badass to be found, and while you are still likely to argue with yourself often enough at least there is only one crew member's mood and personality to juggle.

    And the other advantage the solo/self supported hiker clearly has is flexibility. If you are feeling good or the trail is kind; onward you go regardless of where you agreed to meet or vehicular access declares ideal. And if you're on fumes there is no need to whip a worn down horse to death to cover the last few miles. You just pull over, get to bed an hour earlier and rise early to fight on the next day. More often than not it's that last hour that one shouldn't be going that does the most damage.

    Going fully supported requires many baddasses to be found. Special ones with the kind of personality, friendship, ego and humility to be relegated to faithful sidekick and unsung hero. And folks like that are rare enough as is.
    You have to be the sort of person who attracts those folks... which can be tough considering all the hours and hours of lonely solo training most overlook. In many ways you have to have a stronger personality to juggle that; being a dedicated disciplined loner who still finds time to build relationships with solid friends.

    Took Karl three tries and a bit of redbull to give him wings.

    Jen managed to luck into it and marry a super crew chief with summers off. Didn't hurt she'd made friends with the dancing Doyle along the way.

    Jurek is the very definition of kindness and friendship. So no surprise he called in the super friends pack to see him through the end.

    (Jenny still owes me a book if you're reading this Joey)

    Karel managed to snag a dedicated friend in Joren... who happened to be a PT to boot, apparently a damn good one. Who was willing to do this not once, but twice now. He found a way to juggle his profession with adequate time off and inspired several others to come out. Very strong pacers who didn't stop by for a day or weekend- but weeks at a time. And not some friend from the local ultra circuit a few hours drive away but folks who flew to another country to help him.

    It's said you can tell a lot about a fella by the company he keeps.
    With friends and family like that- Karel's gotta be one of the good ones.

    The backpacker in me will never feel quite the same about the two efforts. Though one of the greatest lessons of backpacking is that no matter how many stunning wonders you see, or moments of pure self-reliant satisfaction one can acquire; In the end it matters little if you have no one to share those with.

    So while my deepest respect does ultimately lie with the soloist... it's still no less fascinating and inspiring to see what happens when we silly two legged get together and do something greater than any one of us could achieve alone.

    Respect and a heartily raised glass to Karel and Joren!
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    Here is my final spreadsheet. The last few days for Karel might need to be adjusted when the final tracking data is available. For day 41, I just estimated about where he would have been at 4:30 AM.

    Karel StringBean
    Day Day # Location Day Miles Day # Location Day Miles Days Ahead
    18-Jul 0 Springer Mtn/AT Southern Terminus 0 Springer Mtn/AT Southern Terminus
    19-Jul 1 Unicoi Gap/GA Hwy 75 52.3 1 Low Gap Shelter 42.6 0.23
    20-Jul 2 Rock Gap Shelter/USFS Rd 67 53.1 2 Standing Indian Shelter 43.1 0.39
    21-Jul 3 Yellow Creek Gap/NC Rd 1242 52.5 3 Nantahala, NC/US Hwy 19/74 50.8 0.46
    22-Jul 4 Icewater Spring Shelter 52.5 4 Spence Field Shelter/Eagle Creek Trail 46.8 0.57
    23-Jul 5 Lemon Gap/TN Hwy 107 49.7 5 Cosby Knob Shelter 47.4 0.67
    24-Jul 6 Devil Fork Gap/NC Hwy 212/TN Hwy 352 50.7 6 Hot Springs, NC/NC Hwy 209 43.6 0.69
    25-Jul 7 Iron Mountain Gap/NC Hwy 226/TN Hwy 107 53.2 7 Bald Mtn Shelter 52.7 0.72
    26-Jul 8 Dennis Cove Rd/USFS Rd 50 55.5 8 Roan High Knob Shelter 51.5 0.80
    27-Jul 9 Damascus, VA/US Hwy 58 52.0 9 Watauga Lake Shelter 51.5 0.84
    28-Jul 10 Slab Town Rd/VA Rd 672 53.4 10 Saunders Shelter 49.6 0.84
    29-Jul 11 Laurel Creek/VA Rd 615 59.4 11 Partnership Shelter/VA Hwy 16 53.9 1.08
    30-Jul 12 Pearisburg, VA/VA Hwy 100 52.2 12 Jenkins Shelter/Hunting Camp Creek 46.4 1.00
    31-Jul 13 Craig Creek/VA Rd 621 51.8 13 Pearisburg, VA/VA Hwy 100 56.6 1.00
    1-Aug 14 Blackhorse Gap/USFS Rd 186/BRP 97.7 54.5 14 Craig Creek/VA Rd 621 51.8 1.30
    2-Aug 15 Robinson Gap/BRP 51.7 54.1 15 Daleville, VA/US Hwy 220 40.9 1.48
    3-Aug 16 Dripping Rock Parking/BRP 9.6 51.8 16 Thunder Hill 44.8 1.55
    4-Aug 17 Smith Roach Gap/Skyline 68.6 55.2 17 Woodworth Shelter/Lovingston Trail 47.8 1.62
    5-Aug 18 Little Hogback Mtn/Skyline 19.7 51.9 18 Calf Mtn Shelter 48.9 1.59
    6-Aug 19 Snickers Gap/VA Hwy 7 49.1 19 Lewis Spring/Big Meadows Wayside 53.9 1.62
    7-Aug 20 Warner Hollow Rd 54.1 20 Goose Creek/VA Rd 638 52.5 1.65
    8-Aug 21 Sheet Iron Roof Rd/Deer Run Campground 55.2 21 Loudoun Heights 45.1 1.65
    9-Aug 22 Clarks Creek/PA Hwy 325 51.8 22 South Mtn, PA/PA Hwy 233 56.7 1.84
    10-Aug 23 Schuylkill Gap/PA Hwy 61 53.1 23 Conodoguinet Creek/Bernheisel Bridge Rd 54.1 1.89
    11-Aug 24 Smith Gap Rd 52.0 24 Yellow Springs 39.5 1.93
    12-Aug 25 Sunrise Mtn Rd 52.4 25 Windsor Furnace Shelter 52.1 1.95
    13-Aug 26 Trout Brook/Lakes Rd 53.2 26 Leroy Smith Shelter 50.0 1.97
    14-Aug 27 RPH Shelter/Hortontown Rd 53.4 27 Gren Anderson Shelter/Stony Brook 51.5 2.00
    15-Aug 28 Carse Brook/Cornwall Rd 54.2 28 Mombasha Mtn/Allis Trail 52.1 2.04
    16-Aug 29 Tyringham, MA/Jerusalem Rd 56.8 29 RPH Shelter/Hortontown Rd 51.9 2.00
    17-Aug 30 Pattison Rd 51.3 30 Caesar Brook Campsite 52.0 2.04
    18-Aug 31 Prospect Rock 54.5 31 Tyringham, MA/Jerusalem Rd 59.0 2.12
    19-Aug 32 Long Trail Inn/US Hwy 4 55.0 32 Wilbur Clearing Shelter/Notch Rd 49.2 2.19
    20-Aug 33 Hanover Center Rd 52.7 33 Stratton Pond Shelter 50.8 2.18
    21-Aug 34 Kinsman Notch/NH Hwy 112 46.9 34 GovernorClement Shelter 50.2 2.33
    22-Aug 35 Mizpah Spring Hut/Nauman Campsite 50.4 35 Norwich, VT/Elm St 55.0 3.21
    23-Aug 36 Gorham, NH/US Hwy 2 40.7 36 Oliverian Brook/NH Hwy 25 45.7 3.38
    24-Aug 37 East B Hill Rd/Cascade Trail 41.4 37 Liberty Springs Camp 28.4 3.43
    25-Aug 38 Perham Stream 51.9 38 Ripley Falls Trail 24.6 3.74
    26-Aug 39 Caratunk, ME/US Hwy 201 53.8 39 Carter Dome/Rainbow Trail 33.6 4.01
    27-Aug 40 Wilson Valley Shelter 47.1 40 Mahoosuc Notch/South End 36.9 4.11
    28-Aug 41 Rainbow Lake/East End 81.2 41 Spruce Mtn 42.7 4.57
    29-Aug 41.319 Mt Katahdin/AT Northern Terminus 22.9 42 Crocker Cirque Campsite 37.2 4.19
    30-Aug 43 Kennebec River 44.0
    31-Aug 44 North Pond Brook 40.8
    1-Sep 45 Mud Pond 57.6
    1-Sep 45.51 Mt Katahdin/AT Northern Terminus 53.1

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    And here is how is lead (in days) over Stringbean tacked by day. Again, this is how many days Stringbean would have to hike (at his pace) to catch up to where Karel was at the end of that same day.

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    Started following this thread in the last few days, and that's just crazy. Congratulations to Karel. Looking at the 3 days in the Whites he average 46 miles per day...insane!!! 46 miles in the whites would take me about 4 - 5 days.
    AT: 2007-2019 (45 sections)
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    After all those hard and fast miles, I wonder what Karel's feet look and feel like. Has he grown hooves?


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    Wow. Very well done to Karel and his team! I thought the record could get that low but that it would take years and many more attempts. String bean called it a "game changer" on Instagram and I agree. This was a flawless hike- or run or whatever you want to call it- with a fantastic crew and trail experience (Warren Doyle helped with logistics a few times and called me from Andover to say how blown away he was by them and that they even up there they were making it look so easy). Sounds like they didn't have ideal conditions but he was like clockwork. Surgical, even.

    I also love what Matt said. I'm not gonna get it right and too lazy to find it in the thread but the idea that we're all on the same team and passing the baton, so to speak, to what's humanly possible. Karel just ran a blistering leg. It'll be fun to see what others do going forward. Onward!

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    Amazing accomplishment!

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