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    Default why do people sleep on the ground?

    i just dont understand why people sleep on he ground in tents or in shelters
    hammocking is more comfortable and more versitle,i dont get it,i dont make since,it sucks sleeping on the ground,i guess each to their own,sleeping on the ground just sucks neo


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    most people are afraid of change even if for the better neo

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    Default why do people sleep on the ground?

    I roll around at night and fall out of bed a lot. When I'm on the ground I ain't got far to fall.
    Remember this - - Even the best of friends cannot attend each other's funerals.

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    Why??? My pelvis hurts when I sleep in a hammock for extended time plus I like to do yoga and stretches while in my tent and that's not easy to do in a hammock. I can also sit in my tent on a cold wet day with my sleeping bag around me and cook in the vestibule of my hubba.

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    A few quick replies off the top of my head, Neo, 10 reasons while I'll keep my tent:

    1. Many folks (maybe MOST folks) don't want to hammock for six months.
    While they may be comfortable in a hammock on a short-term basis, most
    folks don't wanna do it for the whole trip. Many folks sleep poorly in
    them.

    2. One can do things in tent or a tarp that one cannot do in a hammock:
    Prepare a cold meal; change one's clothes, do gear repairs, do first aid/
    personal stuff, etc. In a hammock, you can essentially lie down. Period.

    3. There are wonderful places on the Trail that are treeless.....balds,
    mountain tops, open fields, grassy areas, sandy beaches. If you're
    a hammock hiker, you won't be staying in any of these places.

    4. You'll sleep colder in a hammock, especially in the early and late days
    of your trip.

    5. You can't get your pack or most of your belongings in a hammock, meaning
    you leave them out, where they can get wet, bothered by animals, etc.

    6. Hammocks are no good if you're oversized or heavy. Most hammocks for
    "Big and Tall" guys either cost around $200.00 bucks, or weigh at least
    three and a half pounds. Big guys can find tents or tarps that weigh
    and cost less.

    7. In really horrible weather, or if injured, you can kill a whole morning,
    or even a day, in your tent or tarp if you have to. If you try to spend
    16 hours, awake, in a hammock, you'll go out of your mind.

    8. Hammocks aren't much use if you come up with a player to be named
    later that you might want to spend the evening with. Unless you're a
    Bulgarian contortionist, engaging in romantic intimacy in a hammock
    is generally not worth the trouble.

    9. Some bears are known to be partial to "pinata" parties, if you catch my
    drift.

    10. Snakes, including poisonous ones, can all climb trees.

    On that last note, Neo, sleep well!

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    hammocks really suck if you are a stomach sleeper. i just don't want to wake up in the morning feeling like i have been bent in half backwards.
    don't like logging? try wiping with a pine cone.

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    i also like to sleep with my wife. to the best of my knowledge that would be impossible in a hammock.
    don't like logging? try wiping with a pine cone.

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    Maybe neo is just more enlightened and living on a higher plane (pun intended).

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    I sleep on the ground to give neo something to talk about.

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    My husband and I tried to sleep in a hammock together on one trip. I ended up sleeping on the ground underneath it. It was way more comfy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Tarlin
    A few quick replies off the top of my head, Neo, 10 reasons while I'll keep my tent:

    1. Many folks (maybe MOST folks) don't want to hammock for six months.
    While they may be comfortable in a hammock on a short-term basis, most
    folks don't wanna do it for the whole trip. Many folks sleep poorly in
    them.

    a.hammocks are more comfortable.

    2. One can do things in tent or a tarp that one cannot do in a hammock:
    Prepare a cold meal; change one's clothes, do gear repairs, do first aid/
    personal stuff, etc. In a hammock, you can essentially lie down. Period.

    b.thats easy,i can do all that i use an oversized tarp.

    3. There are wonderful places on the Trail that are treeless.....balds,
    mountain tops, open fields, grassy areas, sandy beaches. If you're
    a hammock hiker, you won't be staying in any of these places.

    c.i have hung in my hammock over bluff edges,how is that for a few.

    4. You'll sleep colder in a hammock, especially in the early and late days
    of your trip.

    d.thats what pad or under quilts are for.

    5. You can't get your pack or most of your belongings in a hammock, meaning
    you leave them out, where they can get wet, bothered by animals, etc.

    e.thats what my guy lines are for.

    6. Hammocks are no good if you're oversized or heavy. Most hammocks for
    "Big and Tall" guys either cost around $200.00 bucks, or weigh at least
    three and a half pounds. Big guys can find tents or tarps that weigh
    and cost less.

    f.they make them for up to 350 lbs,if ya are more than that,ya probley dont hike.

    7. In really horrible weather, or if injured, you can kill a whole morning,
    or even a day, in your tent or tarp if you have to. If you try to spend
    16 hours, awake, in a hammock, you'll go out of your mind.

    g.wrong

    8. Hammocks aren't much use if you come up with a player to be named
    later that you might want to spend the evening with. Unless you're a
    Bulgarian contortionist, engaging in romantic intimacy in a hammock
    is generally not worth the trouble.

    h.who needs company.

    9. Some bears are known to be partial to "pinata" parties, if you catch my
    drift.

    i. i never see bears stealth camping away from sloppy campers.

    10. Snakes, including poisonous ones, can all climb trees.

    j.i like snakes.

    On that last note, Neo, sleep well!

    the question is still the same,why sleep on the ground neo

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    I'm not on the ground! I am on my nice comfy therm a rest surrounded by bug netting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerosene
    Maybe neo is just more enlightened and living on a higher plane (pun intended).
    nice way to say it lol neo

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    Geez, Neo, silly me.....I kinda thought I'd just given ten different answers to your question.

    Sorry you missed it.

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    hammocks are too heavy.
    don't like logging? try wiping with a pine cone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Tarlin
    Geez, Neo, silly me.....I kinda thought I'd just given ten different answers to your question.

    Sorry you missed it.
    this is one thing we agree on,we love our jetboils neo
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    Quote Originally Posted by general
    hammocks are too heavy.
    mine wieghs 1 lb 10 oz

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    To each their own ,hammocks leave my back in extreme pain and that offsets any advantages of them for me. They have never felt comfortable for longer than my tropical buzz has lasted. I'm sure my ballast has nothing to do with a hammocks comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by general
    hammocks are too heavy.
    i bet my hammock and oversized tarp wiegh less than your tent neo

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo
    mine wieghs 1 lb 10 oz
    my sil shelter is big enough for a threesome and weighs 15oz.
    don't like logging? try wiping with a pine cone.

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