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    Quote Originally Posted by RockDoc View Post
    Not so. There are a lot of deaths per year due to supplement use. They may help, or do nothing, but they can also hurt or kill.

    Before going on supplements, it makes sense to get your electrolytes measured in the appropriate blood panel. However, supplementing one without the other may lead to drastic shortages, because the compounds work together in ways that are poorly understood.

    You don't need supplements if you eat nutritionally dense food. Sorry, that's not Little Debbies, pop tarts, and Top Ramen. Rather than eating that garbage and adding supplements, a rational approach would be to rework the diet. It's not a mystery.
    Glad to see this side of the issue being promoted (you and others). I've always felt the best way to get the nutrition we need is to eat the right foods. It just makes sense to me.

    However, I've been following the discussion because I have concern that I need to do something different on trail. My hiking is typically just a weekend or a week, so it's not like I'm worried about a months-long nutritional deficit. The concern is that I sweat a lot, more than my husband it seems. It's not uncommon that I'll have salt crusted on my face at the end of the day. And with that I find that I feel vaguely nauseated and low on energy and with little appetite. Eating potato chips hasn't solved the problem. I'm about ready to try some Nuun or Pedialyte.

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    I use some really nasty tasting electrolytes purchased off Amazon.Not really pleasant going down but I really miss it if I forget.Makes a big difference and really helps stave off the fatigue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockDoc View Post
    Not so. There are a lot of deaths per year due to supplement use. They may help, or do nothing, but they can also hurt or kill.

    Before going on supplements, it makes sense to get your electrolytes measured in the appropriate blood panel. However, supplementing one without the other may lead to drastic shortages, because the compounds work together in ways that are poorly understood.

    You don't need supplements if you eat nutritionally dense food. Sorry, that's not Little Debbies, pop tarts, and Top Ramen. Rather than eating that garbage and adding supplements, a rational approach would be to rework the diet. It's not a mystery.
    Good post. Qualitative info.

    Diet, something as simple as food, becomes a mystery of confusion though because we assume we need disagreeing nutritional experts and industrial food scientists - scientists - to tell us what to eat that best supports our health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogwood View Post
    Good post. Qualitative info.

    Diet, something as simple as food, becomes a mystery of confusion though because we assume we need disagreeing nutritional experts and industrial food scientists - scientists - to tell us what to eat that best supports our health.
    as no 50 or 75 year controlled studies have been done over the course of people's lifetimes..... Most of what experts say is conjecture, based on extremely limited data
    Eggs are bad eggs are good margarine is bad margarine is good blah blah blah.

    studies are only done because somebody gives money to do them and there's usually an angle that they're trying to support...... This applies to food, drugs, etc. If a researcher refutes that angle, they don't get any more money.. it's a broken flawed system to start with.

    1. natural foods are usually pretty good for you.

    2. Man-made foods are usually pretty damn bad for

    3. All things in moderation
    4. No one is supposed to live forever so quit worrying about it. Quality is more important than quantity often.
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    The horses are at the starting gate. And, they're off. I'm a product of many days at Monmouth Park.

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    I used Nuun tabs but have switched to Mio Sport. Super easy and can go into any size bottle opening. Doesnt make a mess like powders do anf can store in my front chest pocket on Ultimate Direction pack. Should also fit in any hip belt pocket of your pack has those.

    I find myself getting much less crampy using vs straight water. But im also a serial sweater...i probably lose 10L a day sweating (hyperbole but its A LOT).

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    We use Endurance Fuel from Tailwind Nutrition. Has worked for me solo for multiple trips and worked great on the 12 day AT section we just came back from. 100 calories per scoop and has sodium, magnesium and potassium. I usually mix it 1 scoop to 30 oz of water but I do occasionally use more scoops depending on if I am short on calories that day. I averaged 4 scoops a day from Hot Springs to Damascus, 18 mpd average and no cramps.
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    On my thru attempt I carried a plastic container of orange Gatorade and a wide-mouth bottle. I chugged a quart of it every day at lunch. I still ended up with salt on by pack's padding but the extra boost at lunch was a huge help.
    Long-distance aspirations with short-distance feet.... :jump

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    Quote Originally Posted by illabelle View Post
    ...I've always felt the best way to get the nutrition we need is to eat the right foods. It just makes sense to me.
    I agree. However, as simple as that sounds browse the extensive number of diet, food, fitness, "health", and cooking books, journals, and magazines next time at Barnes & Noble. Look what happens every time we try to talk about food on WB. Someone gets shouted down. PBS has some "food or other celebrity MD/scientific expert" selling their different food views on every day. Supermarket shelves are confusingly so over bloated with false food advertising and claims it's like attempting to find "food truth" portrayed as a grain of sand on Siesta Key. Medical advice is little better. Do extensive research at a medical library on diet. There is little consensus and countless clamoring voices. The topic of what to eat, what's "right" to eat, - the politics of food - is so confusingly hotly debatable it has become a heated topic like religion, does GOD exist or not, or politics. BIG money in food and food related topics. Clouds things.


    As a U.S. citizen I'm not so sure we can get all our nutritional needs from what we commonly label food anymore. Food has been corrupted and coopted.

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    I been known to bring gatorade powder
    Primarily to boost calorie intake
    But keeping electrolytes going helps too.

    I put it in a flip top water bottle, pour out into water bottles. Just take little silicone thingy out. Lift cap, pour out. Ez. Convenient. No mess at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astro View Post
    I have used the Propel powder to add to my water. Will need to check Nuun out.
    Well I tried it, and far too chalky for me. Will stick with Propel.
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    I'm not a "supplement" taking person normally but have been recently (the last few years or so). I am very careful what I put in my body. I even make my own freeze dried meals to be able to have the best nutrition I can have. I have a hard time with supplements as I dislike taking a bunch of stuff. So I frequently spend long periods of time NOT taking them.

    I have dealt with muscle spasm issues for many years now - weather sweating a lot or not. My normal "state" is that most of my muscles are in some level of spasm. I don't even notice until one spot or another goes into a more severe spasm. I drink a lot of water. It recently dawned on me that my electrolytes are likely VERY out of balance and have been for years. So I found an electrolyte to add to my water. This may sound crazy but I thought I could pretty much "instantly" feel the difference. I have only been using it for a few days. The one I bought was expensive and I am out of it. Asked my chiropractor for a recommendation and ordered it today. It will be here tomorrow. She suggested I add lemon to the water and electrolyte as the citric acid will help absorb(?utilize) the electrolytes. I will let y'all know how I am doing in about a week or so.
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    Sport salts tablets from health store.

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