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    Quote Originally Posted by Slo-go'en View Post
    I've used the back flush syringe for the Sawyer filter to suck up water from very shallow pools.
    This is the best suggestion I've heard. Every time I buy a Sawyer product there is a new syringe. At present I have two squeeze and one mini and because I'm a gear junkie I'm sure to end up owning a micro as well. I will use a sharpie to write "dirty" on one syringe and add it to my kit for water collection. If the water is flowing, great. If not, the syringe with tubing attached will reach into nook and cranny. I'll be kicking around ideas for something to stuff in the tube to act as a pre filter. Stainless steel wool or a clean cigarette filter?
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    Take one of those really flimsy water bottles and cut the top off. It can be flattened out and folded up, then unfolded when needed. Takes up very little room and weighs a few grams.

    But my favorite is to use a CNOC vecto water bag. Has a wide mouth opening that can be used to scoop or collect from a drizzle. It has a slider to seal it up. A Sawyer filter can be attached and filter it right from it. It has a 2 liter capacity, and I can use that to filter some water then carry 2 more liters of dirty water either to camp, or thru a dry section.

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    2nd Slo-go’ns reply. I carry a 60ml syringe with a couple of short vinyl tubes stored in the ribs of the plunger.

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    The main reason I bought the MSR Hyperflow filter was it's prefilter and ability to suck water out of shallow sources. My back is about shot and bending or squatting to scoop water a cup at a time is painful.IMG_1597.JPG
    Sleep on the ground, rise with the sun and hike with the wind....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cleaner View Post
    The main reason I bought the MSR Hyperflow filter was it's prefilter and ability to suck water out of shallow sources. My back is about shot and bending or squatting to scoop water a cup at a time is painful.IMG_1597.JPG
    Same exact reason why I use a Hiker filter---to pump up water out of tiny sources. Any attempt at scooping results in alot of silt transfer---but a carefully placed pump nozzle-thingie sucks up the smallest seeps---once I create a small pit, let it settle, and place the nozzle on a leaf to keep it out of the mud.

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    I remember one time during that terrible drought of Fall 2016 a usual spring source was bone dry so I hiked a hundred feet down-slope and found some moisture and dug out a trough and sucked up 3 liters of clean water by going slow and being patient. Here's some pics of the event---

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    Sometimes scooping is not an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipi Walter View Post
    Same exact reason why I use a Hiker filter---to pump up water out of tiny sources. Any attempt at scooping results in alot of silt transfer---but a carefully placed pump nozzle-thingie sucks up the smallest seeps---once I create a small pit, let it settle, and place the nozzle on a leaf to keep it out of the mud.

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    I remember one time during that terrible drought of Fall 2016 a usual spring source was bone dry so I hiked a hundred feet down-slope and found some moisture and dug out a trough and sucked up 3 liters of clean water by going slow and being patient. Here's some pics of the event---

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    Sometimes scooping is not an option.
    Sometimes you have to use your head. Many years ago I do remember using the lid of my nalgene to scoop water from a shallow source. I’m just grateful now to be able to carry a backpack a few miles. Still enjoy it though.
    Sleep on the ground, rise with the sun and hike with the wind....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandyRandy View Post
    Use your pot. It takes zero pack space! And use your mosquito head net as a pre filter. Zero pack space again! Your welcome
    Yup


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slo-go'en View Post
    I've used the back flush syringe for the Sawyer filter to suck up water from very shallow pools.
    Ooooh. Crafty.


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    ditto on zip lock bag; you can really get good using one after awhile, and they scoop about as much water that would be scoopable by any method.

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    I bought a square water bottle and cut it off about 3 inches from the neck end,attached it to my Evernew bag with a Sawyer sleeve connector from Amazon.Works great in flowing water and serves as a funnel when scooping with a scoop.Using a folded down cheap water bottle works but I have seen vids where Sawyer bags were cut down after then failed and re purposed to great effect.

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    The second to left is a little campmor plastic cup. It has 1/4 measurements on the side and can be found at goodwill, ebay and on the campmor website. I have used it for the entirety of my backpacking since the boy scouts. I had to replace my original when i lent it to a friend and he sat on it while collecting water. That was a sad day.

    Edit: Could no longer find on campmor, but can be found below

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    Trail Miles: 4,980.5
    AT Map 1: Complete 2013-2021
    Sheltowee Trace: Complete 2020-2023
    Pinhoti Trail: Complete 2023-2024
    Foothills Trail: 47.9
    AT Map 2: 279.4
    BMT: 52.7
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    Yes, use a small plastic cup. Mine has volume marks on it. Same cup I use to drink coffee. Think multipurpose.

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    My cook pot (snow peak 600) which nestles on the bottom of a 1 liter Poweraid bottle. It sits in an external pocket of my Exos pack and makes a very handy, low bulk package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Panda View Post
    Cut off the bottom 4" of a Smartwater bottle.
    I cut off the top 4" of the bottle - can direct the water flow into whatever

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    Capri Sun with the top cut off. Light as it gets and can fold it up so it can squeeze into tight spaces since it can be flat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cleaner View Post
    The main reason I bought the MSR Hyperflow filter was it's prefilter and ability to suck water out of shallow sources. My back is about shot and bending or squatting to scoop water a cup at a time is painful.IMG_1597.JPG
    Prefilter and shallow sources were the reasons I resisted the Sawyer filters for quite a while.

    Now I must admit that it's sometimes a pain to deal with when you don't have an ideal water source, but the weight of my gravity feed Sawyer Filter setup is much lighter than the old Sweetwater pump I used to use.

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    It’s dry. You need a scoop. Cut the bottom 4 inches out of a plastic water bottle. Scoop gently so you don’t silt up your water source.

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    Already been said multiple times, but I use my cook pot like others here. I have it clipped to the outside of my pack for easy access, and part of my treatment system incoporates the pot (i.e. I use a steripen).
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    Use the TOP part of a Smart water bottle. Install the push-top adapter that came with your Sawyer on the bottle top (they're the same threads), or just buy a spare. When you have a running stream, it becomes a funnel for directing the water into your dirty water bladder for filtering, because you can fit the adapter into the bladder's opening. If you're forced to scoop water from a puddle, just use it as a scoop, and hold your finger over the hole in the adapter until you're ready to empty it into the bladder.

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    Use the top part of a water bottle. Get a coupler from Sawyer or I got a torpedo tune off amazon for a dollar maybe. Connect the top of water bottle to evernew bag or water bottle like a funnel using the coupler. I even put a small piece of panty hose inline as a pre filter.

    Works great for dipping out of lakes or funneling from small piped springs. Then all the filter and bags can fit inside the funnel to take up no space.

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