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    Leo, you would be better off using a canister stove like the ones described in the above comments.
    (Not me in the video talking.)

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    For cold weather I still turn to my SVEA Optimus (123). It's about as bomb proof as white gas stoves can get and is compact. There's a little learning curve on proper lighting (priming) but it's a great little stove for winter.

    Edit: Ah, missed it was already mentioned by Venchka
    Last edited by Crossbar; 01-28-2020 at 23:23. Reason: Already mentioned

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    @zelph:
    My problem is that I just hate canister stoves <G>
    BTW, love your videos!

    @Crossbar:
    Unfortunately, the Svea doesn't burn car gas.

    It seems to be zeroing in to some MSR, maybe the International.

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    I burned car gas in My Svea123. Maybe thats why it exploded after several years.

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    Guess the issue with car gas is sot or deposits inside the system.

    How did it "explode"? Isn't there a pressure release valve?

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    The SVEA will handle reg gas just fine you just dont want to do it all the time. It has a built in needle that will clean the jet when you operate the valve. I’ve used gasoline in mine numerous times in a pinch.

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    Hello Leo,

    Take a second look at the Primus Omni Fuel. I've owned one for a couple years. It comes with three orifices that burn a variety of liquid fuels, except alcohol. Its fuel line is quite flexible, allowing it to fold compactly into the burner's legs. I like the way it shuts off by flipping the fuel bottle over; the fuel bottle is depressurized and the fuel line is purged. It may be an added convenience for you that its a European product.

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    Thank you John.
    Sounds reasonable.

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    On a friends advice I took the stove apart and cleaned it. It was never the same afterwards. After it exploded in flame I never trusted it again and at some point later sold it. Up until I cleaned it it worked great and I loved that simple little stove. Now I use an MSR stove in the winter and a Snow peak canister stove for 3 season use. Occasionally I will use my Bushbuddy wood burning stove for the simplicity and pure pleasure from it.

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    I used unleaded gas in my SVEA for my first AT hike. Never had any problems, just cleaned the orifice after every use. I switched to a Coleman Apex witch I still use when I go winter hiking. The Coleman is a multi fuel stove.
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    I have an MSR Universal, and it does burn motor gas. And I most often use it with an inverted canister instead, because it's so very finicky to prime. Maybe I need lessons.

    In warmer weather, I bring a popcan stove and denatured alcohol. I switch to the Universal only when it looks as if I might have to melt snow, which goes through an unbelievable amount of fuel. You can kill 12 ounces of gasoline just melting 4 liters of water a day for drinking - and I'll go through that much water if I'm on snowshoes, which is hard work.
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    car gas isnt really good. it stinks, it has chemical addatives that are still in the exhaust.

    white gas is my prefered fuel n it works at almost any temperature. in very cold environments, preheat the generator tube before lighting.. tjats the trick besides priming as manufacture recomendations.

    i use anold whisperlight international.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camper10469 View Post
    car gas isnt really good. it stinks, it has chemical addatives that are still in the exhaust.

    white gas is my prefered fuel n it works at almost any temperature. in very cold environments, preheat the generator tube before lighting.. tjats the trick besides priming as manufacture recomendations.

    i use anold whisperlight international.
    Yep, I don't think there is any argument there. But nonetheless, there are places in the world where white gas is not available, hence the need to use regular "car gasoline".

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    Quote Originally Posted by colorado_rob View Post
    Yep, I don't think there is any argument there. But nonetheless, there are places in the world where white gas is not available, hence the need to use regular "car gasoline".
    Kerosene can be used in most of the European Expedition multi-fuel stoves with the right nozzle. I can’t speak for MSR stoves. However, there was or is an International model which used to indicate multi-fuel capability.
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    Why no love for the Optimus Polaris? It is pretty nice and burns a wide variety of fuels including pump gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo L. View Post
    Sorry, my English is not good enough to understand your talk in the video completely.
    So, does this setup burn car gas?
    Born and raised here and I've been watching shuggs videos for years and I still can't understand him sometimes.
    Man really knows his stoves and hammocks and........
    Very entertaining and informative he's not doing very many videos these days, I'll miss him.....

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    Just a thought but why the gasoline ? I would think in cold regions anyplace you could buy gasoline would also have "Heet" or a similar automotive gas line antifreeze additive sitting on the shelf. Basically straight methanol which works in lots of stoves and wont cause the fouling issues.

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    I've never heard of running a traditional liquid fuel stove on alcohol like that. A true alcohol stove, of course.

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    Fancee Feest stove will burn gasoline. I never recommend it because of the smell and difficulties in handling it. Use no more than 1 ounce fuel

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelph View Post
    Fancee Feest stove will burn gasoline. I never recommend it because of the smell and difficulties in handling it. Use no more than 1 ounce fuel
    Are you sure about that?...
    Specifically from a safety point of view.
    Sure, gasoline will burn, but these types of stoves are generally designed to burn alcohol, which is a lot less volatile than gasoline.

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