Jetboil Stash Stove

[zelph]

It's coming soon in March, weighs 7oz.:

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https://www.crossville-chronicle.com...78a21f2bf.html

https://jetboil.johnsonoutdoors.com/...730.1611801275



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[blackmagic]

Very competitive weight. The closest apples-to-apples comparison would be the MSR Titan Kettle (0.85L) at 4.2 oz and a PocketRocket 2 at 2.6 oz, which is only 0.3 oz lighter than this stove (with 50 mL more capacity).

So the Stash only needs to save about 0.3 oz ~= 8 g of fuel from a single 4oz canister to break even, or just one or two extra burns per canister.

But the Stash's design might make it worth it regardless. Having a tight-fitting snap-on lid might save the weight of a rubber cross band or a stove stuff sack.

[Starchild]

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So the Stash only needs to save about 0.3 oz ~= 8 g of fuel from a single 4oz canister to break even, or just one or two extra burns per canister.....

Thinking on this it is not that simple, and may be backwards. Any savings will happen only if its higher efficiency means you can bring 1 less canister, or a smaller canister, or a partly used canister. But assuming starting with one full canister, it will be heavier to bring a high efficiency stove than a regular one because you will be going through the fuel slower, thus carrying fuel it longer. Also high efficiency pots typically weight more.

[QiWiz]

Thinking on this it is not that simple, and may be backwards. Any savings will happen only if its higher efficiency means you can bring 1 less canister, or a smaller canister, or a partly used canister. But assuming starting with one full canister, it will be heavier to bring a high efficiency stove than a regular one because you will be going through the fuel slower, thus carrying fuel it longer. Also high efficiency pots typically weight more.

This to me is a very interesting and wise perspective on canister stove efficiency and its pros and cons.

[cmoulder]

This to me is a very interesting and wise perspective on canister stove efficiency and its pros and cons.

And all of the theoretical arguments assume that you'll use up your last gram of fuel just as you're finishing up breakfast on the last day.

I've done that a few times. With Esbit. Never with alcohol or canister.

Hey, I think I'm inadvertently making a case for wood!

[perrymk]

I still have my old Jetboil TiSol that I use, plus a backup TiSol still in the package. A quick glance suggests the specs are very similar. I'll have to spend more time comparing the two later.

[colorado_rob]

I still have my old Jetboil TiSol that I use, plus a backup TiSol still in the package. A quick glance suggests the specs are very similar. I'll have to spend more time comparing the two later.

I have two Sol Ti's as well, but after many years of hard long trail use, one of the burners is nearly toast (broken plastic, still works, but shaky) and I'm nervous about the other one eventually suffering the same fate. So, it's nice having a UL Jetboil back.

I'll definitely buy one, there is no question. I'm a very heavy stove user, liking a full 2 cups of coffee in the AM, plus hot tea in the PM, so hopefully the fuel efficiency is the same or better than the old Sol models (Ti or AL).

One difference is the 0.8 liter capacity, while the Sol is 0.9. doesn't sound like much difference, but when my wife is with me on the trail, the 0.9 barely works to make two proper cups of Joe, or two FD dinners. Losing that 0.1 liter will not work when I'm with her, but solo, the 0.8 is plenty.

[CalebJ]

One difference is the 0.8 liter capacity, while the Sol is 0.9. doesn't sound like much difference, but when my wife is with me on the trail, the 0.9 barely works to make two proper cups of Joe, or two FD dinners. Losing that 0.1 liter will not work when I'm with her, but solo, the 0.8 is plenty.

I've stayed off the Jetboil train for a long time now, but the last two trips have really pushed me in that direction as I've watched them function remarkably well in wind and temperatures that were outside what I'd always considered reasonable for a canister stove. The micromo really appeals to me for personal use when I want a stove (most of the time by myself I just leave it at home except for the winter), but it's too small for snow melting or group use. It's a real shame that there's not a convenient way to order the Sumo with the Micromo pot as an accessory or vice versa.

[Starchild]

One difference is the 0.8 liter capacity, while the Sol is 0.9. doesn't sound like much difference, but when my wife is with me on the trail, the 0.9 barely works to make two proper cups of Joe, or two FD dinners. Losing that 0.1 liter will not work when I'm with her, but solo, the 0.8 is plenty.

It does not take long to boil an extra 0.1 or 0.2l of water in the Jetboil, which is what I do with 2 people. Start the food rehydrating on the first boil, top it off very shortly after.

[Coffee]

This is very interesting. I was just thinking about how to cut weight from my cook system which, for the past eight years, has been a JetBoil Sol Aluminum. Super reliable, fast, efficient, but not ultralight. Every time I considered other options, I came back to fuel efficiency and performance in wind as limiting factors. So will have to look at this one closely.

[zelph]

A little visual action for your morning brew time.

[Venchka]

This is very interesting. I was just thinking about how to cut weight from my cook system which, for the past eight years, has been a JetBoil Sol Aluminum. Super reliable, fast, efficient, but not ultralight. Every time I considered other options, I came back to fuel efficiency and performance in wind as limiting factors. So will have to look at this one closely.

I also have the Sol Aluminum which I rescued from Gander Mountain as they were closing.
It is by far the best system in my cooking cabinet.
Wayne

[zelph]

My winter stove for melting snow with a 2.5 litre pot and an adaptor support for smaller pot and fry pan. "Reactor" extraordinaire

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[Kaptainkriz]

That makes me feel all warm inside...it's hard to resist bazinga

My winter stove for melting snow with a 2.5 litre pot and an adaptor support for smaller pot and fry pan. "Reactor" extraordinaire

[JNI64]

I have the original jetboil, yes not small,not light weight but super fast, efficient and reliable.

This msr reactor looks interesting ?

Hey zelph, where did you get the adapter support ?
I think you said this stove is good down to-25 ?
Do you have to use propane or mix and does it have to be inverted?
What wind screen do you use with this stove?
And this stove isn't cheap about $100 more than the white gas/combo stoves, so what are the advantages to this stove?

I'm asking because I'm going to be looking something similar for deep winter, snow melt, fry pan combo, dependable stoves.

[zelph]

I have the original jetboil, yes not small,not light weight but super fast, efficient and reliable.

This msr reactor looks interesting ?

Hey zelph, where did you get the adapter support ?
I think you said this stove is good down to-25 ?
Do you have to use propane or mix and does it have to be inverted?
What wind screen do you use with this stove?
And this stove isn't cheap about $100 more than the white gas/combo stoves, so what are the advantages to this stove?

I'm asking because I'm going to be looking something similar for deep winter, snow melt, fry pan combo, dependable stoves.

The 2.5 litre pot was purchased used here on WB. The Reactor and Brunton stove stand were purchased used on Backpackinglight.com.

I use a doityourself titanium windscreen and modified DIY pot support for use with fry pan and other pots, very versatile. With the DIY pot support I can see the volume(redness) of heat being used when I want to simmer, visual control if you will. The Brunton stand allows for stability when melting snow with the 2.5 litre pot.
The Reactor stove is fuel efficient when used with the pot that has the heat exchanger fins. I use 70% BOSS propane torch fuel good down to -35 degrees, something I discovered last year during a research period due to having to stay indoors during the global situation Use the canister in the upright position. The uniqueness of the stove is worth it's high cost, to me anyway.

The advantages of the stove are.........bazinga

[hikermiker]

$130? No thank you.

[CalebJ]

Holy smokes! -35 degrees? Impressive. Are you doing your own refills to get that mixture? Any concerns with the integrity of the canister using that much propane?

[zelph]

Holy smokes! -35 degrees? Impressive. Are you doing your own refills to get that mixture? Any concerns with the integrity of the canister using that much propane?

The canisters are available from the manufacture. The canisters have a Lindal valve.

https://www.es-refrigerants.com/prod...435a&Trying=ON

Link to ebay has been deleted due to incorrect photo at ebay.

[COMEBACK JACK]

I still have my original jet boil. It might be heavy on some scale yet it has been my go to for so long, it is reliable as all get out; besides, since i make my own backpacking meals i have portioned them to be the perfect serving size according to the volume i have. Now that being said it seems this year i will be pairing up a lot on adventures and will highly suggest this new model to her. Thanks for the heads up. Good informative thread.