Collapsible / Soft titanium or stainless water bottle?
Is there such a thing as a soft bottle made of titanium or stainless? I don't want to taste plastic anymore.
I belive there are several, a quick Google search brought up this one:
https://keego.at/products/the-bottle?lang=de
You can squeeze that one, but not collapse it.Originally Posted by Leo L.
You can have a metal bottle (stainless/titanium), or a collapsible bottle, but not both in the same bottle.
Only 90 grams and wide mouth! Excellent. But I was hoping for something collapsible. I only want to have one container with a large volume: a pot. Vargo makes a titanium bottle pot. But specifically am looking for a bladder like these, only instead of plastic, made of thin titanium or stainless sheets:
platy_softbottle_2020_group.jpg
I guess even aluminum would be fine: https://www.physicsforums.com/thread...oes-not.638911
This might work, but it's kind of silly to add a filter to filter out the plastic taste, when the bladder could just not be plastic.
https://www.katadyn.com/us/us/268-80...bottle-adaptor
Carbon can filter out plastic, so if there is a BeFree filter bottle that contains carbon, I'm in.
Here ya go.....Rubber Canteen
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A very good example of the rubber canteen that was introduced in 1944, after the Japanese Army had decreed that any of its equipment that was made from aluminum (such as canteens) could thereafter be temporarily made from other suitable materials, such as rubber, porcelain, or leather. The rubber Army canteen was the result of this effort to conserve the precious aluminum for the war effort. The canteen is complete with its original rubber stopper and the full carrying harness. The canteen shows the typical collapsed shape for this piece of equipment, a condition that always developed as a result of the poor quality of rubber that the military was forced to use at that point in the war.
https://griffinmilitaria.com/product/japanese-army-last-ditch-rubber-canteen/
https://griffinmilitaria.com/product...ubber-canteen/
https://www.gear-illustration.com/20...ed-cover-1967/
Leather Flask Rubber Bladder Hiking Travel Canteen Authentic Spain Not Used NICE
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Leather-Flask-Rubber-Bladder-Hiking-Travel-Canteen-Authentic-Spain-Not-Used-NICE-/254500784811
I've owned one of these many years ago, it had a plastic bag inside to make it waterproof and as its impossible to clean it inside properly, it got moldy pretty quick.
This item is a fake reproduction of the original model made from leather and (swine?) bladder, something nobody would like nowadays.
I wonder if they make ultralight versions of these!
I just can’t imagine how a metal container could both collapse and hold water.
Maybe a waterproof fabric bag? Dynmea perhaps? Body seems like it would be easy enough. Opening tricky
MSR makes cloth/rubber bladders in many different sizes, as long as i clean them out at the end of the hike I have never had any bad taste from them. Wide mouthed and my goto water container, can fill at the end of the day, have enough for evening meal and breakfast the next morning and fill the water bottle for the day. Carry it empty unless I need to haul water over a dry stretch. Has lasted almost 15 years with out a leak and it has been used as a pillow a couple of times. Wide mouth attaches to the filter for easy use. a little more wieght than some of the plastic ones but unlike the plastic ones I have tried it has never failed me.
What I find at the MSR site now is their Dromedary Bags. They are made of PU (polyurethane).
It was fun searching for a soft metal container :-)
The closest and very viable option I can think of is those Mylar bags that holds the wind in box wine. It does a good job of not flavoring the liquid inside. And, it's really cheap, after you're done drinking the wine. I used to use these all the time before Platypus and the like came out with ready-made light-weight collapsible containers with easier to use caps and nozzles. They were much better for backpacking than those (2 gallon?) LDPE camping cubes that are still sold today.
I'm not lost. I'm exploring.
Are these lined with plastic in the interior?liquid-juice-spout-pouch-500x500.jpg
As I understand it, Mylar is metal coated plastic with the plastic being there to provide structure to the micro-thin metal layer. In the case of the wine box liners, I would think the metal layer is likely on the inside to prevent any plastic taste from leaching into the wine.
On a completely alternative note, Specialized Bicycles manufactures a series of water bottles that are called Purist(TM). These are a flexible LDPE plastic bottle with a micro-think layer of glass deposited onto the inside to prevent the plastic taste from getting to the water. It also reduces staining and bacterial build-up on the inside of the bottle.
So, as long as the lining is thin enough (a couple molecules thick?) and you don't mind using plastic as the primary structural material, it seems you can potentially get both collapsible glass and collapsible metal containers.
Good luck.
I'm not lost. I'm exploring.
Cool thanks!
I didn't like the taste of the water when I used my water bladder, tube, and suction valve. I replaced the bladder with one that is not supposed to give an aftertaste, but realized the valve itself was giving off the bad taste. I switched to bottles, first wide-mouth, now smart water bottles. The only time water tastes like plastic is when I try to use a cap with a snap-open valve. As long as the cap screws off, the water tastes fine. The valve I drank thru caused the bad taste. Look at your set-up. If you are drinking thru a valve, try a screw-on cap instead. It's more of a hassle, but gives you cleaner-tasting water. I also use some aluminum bottles that are shaped like smart water bottles. You can order a case of those from Mountain Valley Water. They do not collapse.
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