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    Good post Sly, The Whiteblaze followers only know one way to get there. The Maps give the Blue Blazers lots of options.
    A toast to the ones that don't fit in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike! View Post
    just as a question.. in conneticut and mass the AT club's produce free vague maps, do any other states provide these maps at various trail heads etc along the trail?
    thanks!
    mike!

    If you are going through a state park, PA and NJ publish park maps that demark the AT, but only to the extent that it is in the park. You can access them online, download and print, or order from the park office, or pick em up at the trailhead.

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    hey... just curious.. do you guys think i can get away with the mapdanas and the companion for a thru hike? seems like i could save 100$ or so, while saving a little weight, but still having nearly all the info except i'd be missing the elevation profile, but i could get a vague idea with the elevations of the popular landmarks (mtn tops, shelters etc) right? anything else im not seeing in this win win solution?
    thanks!
    mike!

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    Very good point jack, theres nothing more annoying than someone trying to look at your map when u want to get moving in the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike! View Post
    hey... just curious.. do you guys think i can get away with the mapdanas and the companion for a thru hike? seems like i could save 100$ or so, while saving a little weight, but still having nearly all the info except i'd be missing the elevation profile, but i could get a vague idea with the elevations of the popular landmarks (mtn tops, shelters etc) right? anything else im not seeing in this win win solution?
    thanks!
    mike!
    Map scale isn't adequate IMHO. I recommend buying the maps.

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    So, now I'm even more confused on what to get and the time is running out on the discounts. I don't have 200.00 to spend on maps, but if people really think you need them then I guess I should get them. Has anyone started a poll on this? If not, someone should.
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    The maps could save your life or someone else's.

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    Get the maps, screw the guidebooks!!!
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    The Famous Map and Book Bundle ends 12/22/06 at the AT Store.

    Beware when checking out on the shipping. It seems like a bargain –

    Standard Shipping $15.00
    FEDX 2-DAY $10.00
    And something else…

    Drop down selection, 3 choices. Hell what a bargain, must be a special, I picked the 2-Day for $10. When you hit the checkout, after the order is processed, you find out it is $15 plus $10. You can call and they are very nice about fixing it.
    The heaviest thing I carried was my attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Tarlin View Post
    There are any number of good reasons to carry maps, and only one poor reason NOT to, and that's to save money.

    *Maps will tell you where you are in the world, what lies ahead of you, what
    is behind, and what is to either side.

    *Maps will reveal geographic features and knowledge that may prove very
    useful: They will tell you where roads are, and where roads and side paths
    lead. They'll tell you whether or not one will be going up or down hill, or
    where there is likely to be reliable water that isn't listed in your guidebooks.

    *The elevation profiles will greatly assist your daily trip planning: They'll tell
    you where you can likely do a big-mileage day, and likewise, they'll tell you
    where it'd be foolish to attempt one. They'll help give you an idea of how
    many hours a particular stretch will take to hike, which will greatly lessen
    the chances of you falling short of a shelter or road, or running out of
    daylight because a stretch took longer than you'd anticipated.

    *The maps and elevation profiles will be essential during the planning stages
    of your hike, when you're trying to figure out how much food to carry for
    particular stretches of Trail. For example 70 miles of Southern Maine is
    VERY different from 70 miles of Central Virginia, and a study of the profiles
    can help give you a better idea of what one's daily mileage is likely to be
    in each section.

    *If you like to get your big climbs out of the way early, before it gets too hot,
    the maps will provide this information. Likewise, if you don't want to deal
    with a big uphill late in the day when you're worn out, the maps will also tell
    you about this, so you can plan the end of your day accordingly. With
    maps, you have a lot fewer surprises, and you have the option of saving a
    bad climb for the next morning if you wish. Without maps, you're blind, and
    have only a very rought idea of what the Trail in front of you is like.

    *If you want to find a good place to see a beautiful sunrise, sunset, or
    meteor shower, the maps will help tell you.

    *In an emergency situation, the maps will tell you how you can get out of
    the woods or mountains with minimal effort....they will tell you if side trails,
    roads, or streams will lead you in the right direction....or the wrong one!
    They'll tell you if that jeep track actually leads somewhere, peters out, or
    makes a circle. Without a map and the ability to read one, you have no idea
    what lies to either side of you, and in an emergency situation, your choices
    are basically limited to retreating back down the Trail to a known road
    crossing; hiking ahead to the next one; or waiting for rescue. Having a
    map in an emergency gives you all sorts of options, and will help you make
    an informed, intelligent decsion on how to handle the emergency.

    *You'll always know where the "bail out" points are, which is very useful if
    you or a friend is hiking ill or injured, and the possibility exists that you might
    need to get off the Trail in an unanticipated spot. Likewise, if you have an
    emergency situation at home (expectant partner, sick relative, etc). it can
    be VERY useful to know where the roads/towns/phones are located if you
    have to leave the Trail in a hurry.

    *If you are dealing with a sick or injured hiker, the maps will tell you where
    the likeliest "extraction" point will be, where the nearest road/car access is,
    where stretcher carriers are likliest to come in, etc.

    *If you have to leave an injured hiker, you'll have an exact idea of where
    he is, rather than an approximate one.

    *If you are forced to leave the established Trail for any reason and bush-
    whack, the maps will help you with your navigation, and will be invaluable
    if you find yourself lost. This can happen often when a section of Trail
    is washed out, or one discovers that a stream or river is impassable.
    In these situations, without maps, you have a very high possibility of
    getting lost or mis-directed. Maps will also tell you if you'll be heading up-
    hill or down, which will help give you a better idea of how long it might take
    you to cover a certain distance.

    *If you are taking part in a search and rescue, especially a search for a
    missing person, the maps will help tell you where you are, will help identify
    local landmarks, and will help prevent YOU from getting lost while you are
    helping others.

    *And the main reason....if you or anyone with you should lose the Trail or
    become lost, the maps will help you make intelligent decisions as to getting
    back to the Trail, finding an alternate route, etc.

    *In short, you'll find maps useful every single day of your trip, and they'll
    prove themselves invaluable in an emergency situation. Without them, you
    are extremely limited in how you can help yourself, or help others, without
    making the situation worse for yourself, the injured or lost hiker, or the folks
    who'll be out there looking for you. When you have maps, you have a rough
    idea what lies ahead of you, or on either side if you must leave the Trail for
    any reason. Without maps, you're purely guessing, and are essentially hiking
    blind.
    The AT is so well-marked I have not carried them but your points are certainly valid. You may have convinced me to change.

    While most posts are border upon opinionated garbage, your's was quite informative. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by icemanboston View Post
    The Famous Map and Book Bundle ends 12/22/06 at the AT Store.

    Beware when checking out on the shipping. It seems like a bargain –

    Standard Shipping $15.00
    FEDX 2-DAY $10.00
    And something else…

    Drop down selection, 3 choices. Hell what a bargain, must be a special, I picked the 2-Day for $10. When you hit the checkout, after the order is processed, you find out it is $15 plus $10. You can call and they are very nice about fixing it.
    Yeah, I got hit on that as well with other items... I let it go, hopefully it's for a good cause...
    "Be good and you will be lonesome" M. Twain

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    Between the dawn and the dark of night,
    And if you go no one may follow,
    That path is for your steps alone

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