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    Default Supported section hike - March 2007 (open invitation)

    Terry and I will be doing the section hike described below. We will be day hiking using our cargo van to carry our food/gear. We will hike regardless of weather conditions following the schedule diligently. We plan to camp near the road crossings, only going into town once for dinner/resupply (Hiawassee)*.
    Both thru- and section-hikers interested in this type of hiking are invited to come along. Class of 2007 thru-hikers would have to have day packs (the van would carry your backpacks) which we would then mail back to your home when we leave around the Tellico Gap/Wesser area**.
    There would be no expected payments for this service. No alcohol, smoking, illegal drugs, pets or blue-blazing allowed.
    Contact me through my e-mail below (not this website) if you are interested.

    Section-Hike - Springer-Tellico Gap/Wesser March 9-16, 2007

    Day/date Destination Miles

    Friday 3/9 (meet at USFS#42 parking lot at 6am)Springer to Woody Gap 20.8

    Saturday 3/10 Woody Gap to Hog Pen Gap 17.0

    Sunday 3/11 Hog Pen Gap to Unicoi Gap 13.6

    Monday 3/12 Unicoi Gap to Dicks Creek Gap* 16.1

    Tuesday 3/13 Dicks Creek Gap to Deep Gap 15.6

    Wednesday 3/14 Deep Gap to Rock Gap 20.7

    Thursday 3/15 Rock Gap to Wayah Bald 13.8

    Fruiday 3/16 Wayah Bald to Wesser** 17.2

    Happy trails!
    Warren Doyle PhD
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    "No alcohol, smoking, illegal drugs, pets or blue-blazing allowed"..??
    ...Sounds like fun......lol.....

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    At that rate, you could finish the trail in about 72-75 days. Not bad.

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    Default Issue here...

    No blue-blazing allowed

    That's not really the proper business of anyone but the hiker in question. As long as a hiker is being polite, pays what is appropriate, doesn't cause problems, is on time for dropoff and pickup, etc., I can't see that you'd be entitled to a publicly-expressed opinion as to which exact trail route a hiker followed on a given day. HYOH.

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    Aw, c'mon MS. It's his offer. He can phrase the conditions any way he likes. Those not interested could simply not take him up on his offer. Everybody stays happy.
    That's my dog, Echo. He's a fine young dog.

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    It sounds like Warren is offering to do this for free.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Doyle
    There would be no expected payments for this service.
    Unless he means for mailing the backpacks back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Blazer View Post
    At that rate, you could finish the trail in about 72-75 days. Not bad.
    A 20-mile per day pace finishes in about 109 days. The pace of this hike is considerably slower than 20 miles per day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston View Post
    Well if the pace posted by warren is what you do "starting out of the gate", presumably you'll get faster as you go along, and there are some easy sections where you could do more miles...

    It's a good pace but it's slackpacking. Nice light day packs!

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    Default Yes, he's free to do that, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by ed bell View Post
    Aw, c'mon MS. It's his offer. He can phrase the conditions any way he likes. Those not interested could simply not take him up on his offer. Everybody stays happy.
    What happens if someone along for the day decides on the spot for whatever reason to blueblaze part of the day, say to check out a view, or BC they pulled a muscle and want an easier walk the rest of the day? Does Warren say "F you, you're not really a hiker", and refuse to give them a ride back? This just smells IMO.

    BTW, I did my thru pretty darned pure WRT following the white blazes. I just respect the right of other hikers to H their OHs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston View Post
    Warren is inviting you on a trip/hike of his. If you don't like his conditions, don't hike with him. If you want to hike your own hike, then don't participate in this hike. It's simple.
    Boston is right on. J. Tarlin will log on later and give his professional opinion I'm sure. He's a staunch Warren supporter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L. Wolf View Post
    Boston is right on. J. Tarlin will log on later and give his professional opinion I'm sure. He's a staunch Warren supporter.
    Blow an ankle or get blisters, take an easier route to the pickup point, and get left behind?? That's just not reasonable IMO.

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    Especially if it's free and his van.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnesotasmith View Post
    Blow an ankle or get blisters, take an easier route to the pickup point, and get left behind?? That's just not reasonable IMO.
    i highly doubt warren is going to refuse a person a ride due to injury/illness.

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    Default When someone has promised to pick you up at the end of the day...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alligator View Post
    Especially if it's free and his van.
    It should be possible to rely upon him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnesotasmith View Post
    It should be possible to rely upon him.
    I was posting while you were and mine came in after. I agree with LW about injuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnesotasmith View Post
    It should be possible to rely upon him.
    Did Warren actually say he would leave someone stranded in the woods if he or she blue-blazed? Don't think so, and don't think he would.

    But as the organizer he has a right to fashion this event the way he sees fit, and maybe he would be less than enthusiastic about taking a blue blazer out the NEXT day. Since he's made his position on blue blazing clear in advance, that seems a reasonable outcome...perhaps putting a blue-blazer on his way to the nearest town. Come to think of it, that would be a reasonable solution for someone who got injured, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOWGLI16 View Post
    A 20-mile per day pace finishes in about 109 days. The pace of this hike is considerably slower than 20 miles per day.
    My math musta been messed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Blazer View Post
    My math musta been messed up.
    Yeah, if you go about 30.something a day you could do it in 72 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston View Post
    Warren is inviting you on a trip/hike of his. If you don't like his conditions, don't hike with him. If you want to hike your own hike, then don't participate in this hike. It's simple.

    I agree. Sounds like a nice offer. Why gripe about it if you're not even planning to participate?
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    Default Clarifications and comments

    1) I don't swear.

    2) The schedule is basically the first week of the circle expedition's schedule. We do the whole trail in 126-127 days.

    3) This thread is definitely exposing some interesting comments. One of these posters even went so far to suggest (on another thread) that I should be banished from the trail.

    4) There might be some people out there who would want to hike like this.
    It is not for everyone. This invitation is to those few, not the others.
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