Gear list

[wrongway_08]

Just posting so I can keep track of everything, if you have any ideas, let me know.
Leave date, March 1st, 2008 - Springer Mtn.

- Pack, The North Face Skareb 55 - 3 lb 9 oz
- Platypus 3 liter drink bladder - 3.75 oz
- Sleeping Bag/stuff sack, Mont-Bell, 40 degree 800 fill - 1 lb 2.85 oz
- Sleeping Pad/stuff sack, Big Anges, inflate-insulated, modified (see post under gear talk) - 12.20 oz
- Tent, MSR Microzoid/Foot Print, stuff sack - 2 lb 14.90 oz
- Stove/pot/fuel Boil.(fuel,spoon,fork,lighter also) - 1 lb 5.75 oz total
- Water Filter, Katadyn Hiker Pro - 12.70 oz
- Leki Poles - 1 lb 4.80 oz
- light, Petzl Tikka plus - 2.70 oz
- Gloves - Burton 2 in 1 - 10.90 oz
- Bear Bag, 20 feet string (not for just bear bag) - 2.70 oz
- Boots with gel insoles - 2 lbs 12.50 oz

* Clothes: - 5 lb 12.20 oz total
.- Smart Wool Merino, Long top & bottom - 12.50 oz
.- Under Armour, under wear (2) - 5.90 oz
.- REI, pants/short combo - 13.15 oz
.- REI, Light Rain Pants - 9.75 oz
.- REI, Light Rain Jacket - 14.80 oz
.- Exoffico long sleeve roll up shirt - 7.90 oz
.- Under Armour T-shirts (2) - 10.10 oz
.- Wool socks (3)and liner socks (2) - 13.95 oz
.- Clothes stuff sack, water proof, sleeping bag holder also - 4.05 oz


* Medical pack: - 5.55 oz
- Band-aids, 8 real small (to make stiches if needed) 2 large
- cutters
- 6 small eye wash tubes
- Small size Campho-Phenigue Antiseptic
- 25 Q-Tips
- 3 needles
- Tweezers
- 4 Alcohol wipes
- small mirror

*Health pack: - 9.80 oz
- Suntan lotion
- Tooth Paste
- Tooth Brush
- small soap
- body wipes



Gear Total - 23 lb 10.25 oz
Pack total - 19 lb 6.95 oz (total gear weight, minus the clothes/boots I will be wearing and the poles)

Water weight would be
3 liter, 100 oz = 6 lb 4 oz
2 liter, 70 oz = 4 lb 6 oz
1 liter, 34 oz = 2 lb 2 oz
Hopefully will not have to carry 6 lbs of water while hiking but its nice to have the ability just in case. Water is one of the few items I dont mind having too much of, just in case.

Two items I am thinking of replacing
1) Skareb with a Go-lite Jam 2, - 1 lb 6 oz (saves me 2 lb 3 oz)
2) MSR Microzoid with the Traptent Contrail, 1 lb 8.25 oz (saves me 1 lb 5.75 oz) The tarp tent would save room due to not having poles and its lighter material so it will compact to a smaller size.
Not sure on these yet, still need to try them out.




Bought a better scale, was able to weigh each item seperate but looks like the old scale lied! Will be redoing a few items later, gloves and such later to kill some weight. Looks like I might miss my 25 lb goal weight when I add food/water to the numbers - looks more like a touch under 30 lbs, 17% of my body weight .

[hopefulhiker]

I like the BA stuff, The MSR is a good tent, You could get a lighter pack, I would look at frog toggs, instead of goretex stuff( it is heavy) you need a light, bear bag, and rope....

[wrongway_08]

I was looking at a lot of packs but this one fits so well, I will be doing a trip this weekend, hope it still feels as comfy after wearing it for 2 days.
The Frog Toggs seem good, have you worn them? There is a Bass Pro shop down the road from my work, I will check them out Thursday.
I do have a headlamp (led style) I will be bringing, just forgot to add it in.
Bear bag is now on the list - meant to buy it - forgot to.
Thanks for the help.

[hopefulhiker]

Yeah I wore them on a whole thru hike.. Just the tops though.. I take back the gortex thing.. In colder weather I used the Marmot full zip rain pants. In warm weather just took two pair of shorts..The full zip on the rain pants helped for venitlation. Frog Toggs are really light.. They looked pretty raggedy at the end of the trip...

[Egads]

Wrongway_08

I presume that you plan to thru in 08. You do not give your anticipated departure date.

Just my opinion, but you should use a 15-20 deg bag from Springer into Virginia. There was a freak cold front Easter 2007 with temps in low teens & hard winds in the Smokies. A 40* bag is not enough even with your clothes on. You would not survive the night in that bag and those conditions if you were hypothermic and needed to warm up.

Also, I'd replace the filter for Aquamira or another treatment. Filters are heavy & they fail. Another consideration is the Steripen; but I'd have a chemical backup to either system (filter or Steripen).

No insulation? You may need gloves, fleece/wool hat, vest / jacket.

Definately add a camera w/ extra batteries & memory cards to your list.

Spare platypus? I usually carry 2.

Good shopping & great hiking.

Egads

[hopefulhiker]

Also consider a silk liner for your sleeping bag...

[Panzer1]

Here's a couple of things:

note book + pen/pencil
guide book - in zip lock
AT Trail map
compass
25 feet of 4mm cord
flash camera - in zip lock
hiking wallet
Swiss Army knife
Petzl Tikka headlamp - in ziplock
small backup LED light (approx 1 oz)
gallon zip lock bag for trash
trekking poles
1 Cigarette Lighter
hat
watch
camp shoes
FOOD


Panzer - good hiking

[wrongway_08]

I was undecided about a warmer bag, I sleep hot - even in the winter time I leave one bed room window half open. I do have another 20 degree bag, does not weigh much more then the 40 degree bag, I was thinking of bringing that one also.
Also thinking that with the small tent, my clothes on, I would be warm.
May as well bring the other bag also, worse case I mail it home.
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Thanks for the gear list, I will try to post the items that i have off the list on Tuesday.
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Oh yea, I am leaving from Springer on March 1st 2008.
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Can we edit our post, or do I have to keep redoing the list everytime, or is there another post area where we can edit post?
Thanks for the help

[Panzer1]

Can we edit our post, or do I have to keep redoing the list everytime, or is there another post area where we can edit post?

You can only edit your post if you are a contributing member. Meaning you first have to make a cash donation to get the privledge.
Otherwise you just have to create another seperate post.

Panzer

[bulldog49]

I was undecided about a warmer bag, I sleep hot - even in the winter time I leave one bed room window half open. I do have another 20 degree bag, does not weigh much more then the 40 degree bag, I was thinking of bringing that one also.
Also thinking that with the small tent, my clothes on, I would be warm.
May as well bring the other bag also, worse case I mail it home.
.
Thanks for the gear list, I will try to post the items that i have off the list on Tuesday.
.
Oh yea, I am leaving from Springer on March 1st 2008.
.
Can we edit our post, or do I have to keep redoing the list everytime, or is there another post area where we can edit post?
Thanks for the help

I would start out with the 20 deg bag only, not both. Switch bags in late April or May.

[Panzer1]

Add something for blisters to your med kit, just in case.

IE:
1" surgical tape
1/2" paper surgical tape
moleskin foam / thick
moleskin plus / regular
duck tape for blisters
2nd skin (spenco medical)

Also hand soap, to wash hands before eating so you don't get sick.

Panzer

[Kirby]

You do not need two sleeping bags at once, bring the colder one to start, take it atleast through the Smokies, then you might be able to safely ditch it for the warmer one.

Kirby

[wrongway_08]

After camping this weekend, I will be bringing the warmer one for winter. The 40 degree bag was perfect, took about 15 minutes to heat up, then stayed at a comfy temp. Being in the bag is like not even having it on, soooo comfy.

[wrongway_08]

Just posting so I can keep track of everything, if you have any ideas, let me know.
Leave date, March 1st, 2008 - Springer Mtn.

- Pack, Go-Lite Jam 2, - 1 lb 5.20 oz
- Platypus 3 liter drink bladder - 3.75 oz
- Sleeping Bag/stuff sack, Mont-Bell, 40 degree 800 fill - 1 lb 2.85 oz
- Sleeping Pad/stuff sack, Big Anges, inflate-insulated, modified (see post under gear talk) - 12.20 oz
- Tent, MSR Microzoid/Foot Print, stuff sack - 2 lb 14.90 oz
- Stove/pot/fuel Boil.(fuel,spoon,fork,lighter also) - 1 lb 5.75 oz total
- Water Filter, Katadyn Hiker Pro - 12.70 oz
- Leki Poles - 1 lb 4.80 oz
- light, Petzl Tikka plus - 2.70 oz
- Bear Bag, 20 feet string (not for just bear bag) - 2.70 oz
- Trail runners with gel insoles - 1 lbs 8.8 oz

* Clothes: - 5 lb 12.20 oz total
.- Smart Wool Merino, Long top & bottom - 12.50 oz
.- Under Armour, under wear (2) - 5.90 oz
.- REI, pants/short combo - 13.15 oz
.- REI, Light Rain Pants - 9.75 oz
.- REI, Light Rain Jacket - 14.80 oz
.- Exoffico long sleeve roll up shirt - 7.90 oz
.- Under Armour T-shirts (2) - 10.10 oz
.- Wool socks (3)and liner socks (2) - 13.95 oz
.- Clothes stuff sack, water proof, sleeping bag holder also - 4.05 oz


* Medical pack: - 5.55 oz
- Band-aids, 8 real small (to make stiches if needed) 2 large
- cutters
- 6 small eye wash tubes
- Small size Campho-Phenigue Antiseptic
- 25 Q-Tips
- 3 needles
- Tweezers
- 4 Alcohol wipes
- small mirror

*Health pack: - 9.80 oz
- Suntan lotion
- Tooth Paste
- Tooth Brush
- small soap
- body wipes



Gear Total - 20 lb 2.75 oz
Pack total - 16 lb 8.25 oz (total gear weight and pack, minus the clothes/boots I will be wearing and the poles)

WINTER GEAR: Should add 2lbs 10oz to my pack weight - if I go with the brands I am thinking about. Then the 14oz for the boot weight.
- Down, Down Top & Bottom
- Head cover
- Gloves
- 20 Degree Bag
- Boots 14oz

Water weight would be
3 liter, 100 oz = 6 lb 4 oz
2 liter, 70 oz = 4 lb 6 oz
1 liter, 34 oz = 2 lb 2 oz
Hopefully will not have to carry 6 lbs of water while hiking but its nice to have the ability just in case. Water is one of the few items I dont mind having too much of, just in case.

items I am thinking of replacing:
1) replacing the Microzoid with a Tarptent Contrail, saves 1 lb 5.70 oz and packs smaller. I did look at hammocks but decided against it - used them before while hiking but during the thru-hike I will be happier with the tent.
2) I have decided to go with trail runners, still looking around on these, my current pair would save me 1 lb 8.8o oz.
3) Filter, I am looking around at different options, not sure of changing this item yet.
4) silk liner, I need to go buy some material, the ones they have out are way too big for me.
5) foot powder will be added, also I am looking for powdered toothpaste now to kill weight and to not make such a mess.
6) I have another sleeping bag for winter, 20 degree Mountain Hardwear - more like a 15 degree, I slept hot in it over last winter.


Bought a better scale was able to weigh each item seperate but looks like the old scale lied! Will be redoing a few items later, gloves and such later to kill some weight. Looks like I might miss my 25 lb goal weight when I add food/water to the numbers - looks more like a touch under 27 lbs, less then 17% of my body weight .

Sorry had to pull this down from the top, wouldnt let me edit the first one anymore. Just changed out the pack to a Go-Lite, not sure if it will stay this way but walking around the house it feels pretty good. saved 2 lb 3.80 oz doing this.

[SteveJ]

I think you may be going light on your sleeping bag. I hiked north of Springer the second week of April this year, and temps were down into the low 20's. Several thru-hikers who stayed in the shelter at Hawk Mtn were definitely not prepared for the temps, and were miserable all night. Even wearing all of your clothes and jacket, you may be a little/lot chilly if temps are normal for the first of March.

A matter of personal opinion, of course, but I'd lose the filter and go with aqua mira if there's plenty of water (as you know, others will probably tell you to lose the filter and not worry about it....). If it's dry next spring (like now), you may want to bring the filter to pump....

I'd consider a small container of Gold Bond powder to add to your Med pack......

What kind of boots / shoes are you planning on wearing? Your pack weight should be light enough to go with trail runners / shoes of some sort....

I agree on the water...I left out of Neel's Gap a month or so ago with almost 6 litres for my son and I - but I was also carrying for him.....

Of course if you lost the tent and replaced it with a hammock, you'd be more comfortable!

What fun! Have a ball planning!

Steve

Just posting so I can keep track of everything, if you have any ideas, let me know.
Leave date, March 1st, 2008 - Springer Mtn.

- Pack, Go-Lite Jam 2, - 1 lb 5.20 oz
- Platypus 3 liter drink bladder - 3.75 oz
- Sleeping Bag/stuff sack, Mont-Bell, 40 degree 800 fill - 1 lb 2.85 oz
- Sleeping Pad/stuff sack, Big Anges, inflate-insulated, modified (see post under gear talk) - 12.20 oz
- Tent, MSR Microzoid/Foot Print, stuff sack - 2 lb 14.90 oz
- Stove/pot/fuel Boil.(fuel,spoon,fork,lighter also) - 1 lb 5.75 oz total
- Water Filter, Katadyn Hiker Pro - 12.70 oz
- Leki Poles - 1 lb 4.80 oz
- light, Petzl Tikka plus - 2.70 oz
- Gloves - Burton 2 in 1 - 10.90 oz
- Bear Bag, 20 feet string (not for just bear bag) - 2.70 oz
- Boots with gel insoles - 2 lbs 12.50 oz

* Clothes: - 5 lb 12.20 oz total
.- Smart Wool Merino, Long top & bottom - 12.50 oz
.- Under Armour, under wear (2) - 5.90 oz
.- REI, pants/short combo - 13.15 oz
.- REI, Light Rain Pants - 9.75 oz
.- REI, Light Rain Jacket - 14.80 oz
.- Exoffico long sleeve roll up shirt - 7.90 oz
.- Under Armour T-shirts (2) - 10.10 oz
.- Wool socks (3)and liner socks (2) - 13.95 oz
.- Clothes stuff sack, water proof, sleeping bag holder also - 4.05 oz


* Medical pack: - 5.55 oz
- Band-aids, 8 real small (to make stiches if needed) 2 large
- cutters
- 6 small eye wash tubes
- Small size Campho-Phenigue Antiseptic
- 25 Q-Tips
- 3 needles
- Tweezers
- 4 Alcohol wipes
- small mirror

*Health pack: - 9.80 oz
- Suntan lotion
- Tooth Paste
- Tooth Brush
- small soap
- body wipes



Gear Total - 21 lb 6.45 oz
Pack total - 17 lb 3.15 oz (total gear weight and pack, minus the clothes/boots I will be wearing and the poles)

Water weight would be
3 liter, 100 oz = 6 lb 4 oz
2 liter, 70 oz = 4 lb 6 oz
1 liter, 34 oz = 2 lb 2 oz
Hopefully will not have to carry 6 lbs of water while hiking but its nice to have the ability just in case. Water is one of the few items I dont mind having too much of, just in case.

Two items I am thinking of replacing
1) Skareb with a Go-lite Jam 2, - 1 lb 6 oz (saves me 2 lb 3 oz)
2) MSR Microzoid with the Traptent Contrail, 1 lb 8.25 oz (saves me 1 lb 5.75 oz) The tarp tent would save room due to not having poles and its lighter material so it will compact to a smaller size.
Not sure on these yet, still need to try them out.




Bought a better scale, was able to weigh each item seperate but looks like the old scale lied! Will be redoing a few items later, gloves and such later to kill some weight. Looks like I might miss my 25 lb goal weight when I add food/water to the numbers - looks more like a touch under 27 lbs, less then 17% of my body weight .

Sorry had to pull this down from the top, wouldnt let me edit the first one anymore. Just changed out the pack to a Go-Lite, not sure if it will stay this way but walking around the house it feels pretty good. saved 2 lb 3.80 oz doing this.

[hopefulhiker]

Still think you ought to carry a spare water container. Also consider a silk liner..

[CoyoteWhips]

How are folks on the idea of keeping an emergency space blanket? I've used mine a couple of times when the nights were unexpectedly colder than my sleeping gear allowed. I have the less noisy orange version. Weighs 2.1 ounces in its ziplock.

[wrongway_08]

Thanks for all the ideas, there are a few things I will be changing, I just have not done them yet. In the works:
1) replacing the Microzoid with a Tarptent Contrail, saves 1 lb 5.70 oz and packs smaller. I did look at hammocks but decided against it - used them before while hiking but during the thru-hike I will be happier with the tent.
2) I have decided to go with trail runners, still looking around on these, my current pair would save me 1 lb 8.8o oz.
3) Filter, I am looking around at different options, not sure of changing this item yet.
4) silk liner, I need to go buy some material, the ones they have out are way too big for me.
5) foot powder will be added, also I am looking for powdered toothpaste now to kill weight and to not make such a mess.
6) I have another sleeping bag for winter, 20 degree Mountain Hardwear - more like a 15 degree, I slept hot in it over last winter.

Again, thanks for all the input!

[mweinstone]

wrongway your family to me. and i should never go against the family, but ,........you need to loose all the medical stuff and understand that its cool to be all bloody and cut up but not cool to walk around all band aided up. just lookin out for your image bro. me and stonewall is a commin to the pre gath. see ya!

[Nest]

Thanks for all the ideas, there are a few things I will be changing, I just have not done them yet. In the works:
1) replacing the Microzoid with a Tarptent Contrail, saves 1 lb 5.70 oz and packs smaller. I did look at hammocks but decided against it - used them before while hiking but during the thru-hike I will be happier with the tent.
2) I have decided to go with trail runners, still looking around on these, my current pair would save me 1 lb 8.8o oz.
3) Filter, I am looking around at different options, not sure of changing this item yet.
4) silk liner, I need to go buy some material, the ones they have out are way too big for me.
5) foot powder will be added, also I am looking for powdered toothpaste now to kill weight and to not make such a mess.
6) I have another sleeping bag for winter, 20 degree Mountain Hardwear - more like a 15 degree, I slept hot in it over last winter.

Again, thanks for all the input!

Here's my opinion

I tried Aqua Mira, and can't stand the taste. I am willing to carry a filter to have water that I enjoy drinking. I will be carrying the Hiker Pro next year. You could always start your thru hike with a filter, and if you don't think it is worth the weight, just send it home and get aqua mira. Aqua Mira is cheap and light. You can always carry both and see which you like most, and send the other one home or in a hiker box or something.

For powdered tooth paste, I carry baking soda. It worked for my great grandmother, and she never had a cavity in her live. Plus it doesn't leave a bad taste in your mouth, and can double as a scrubbing powder incase your cook pot won't come clean. Also, leave no trace require that you walk a good distance form your campsite before using toothpaste. Baking soda doesn't require that.

For the trailrunners, I am very pleased with my Salomon XA Pro 3D
http://www.rei.com/product/719709. The quick laces are nice.