Well, all I can say is WOW. I just picked up a scale the other day at Staples. I took it home to measure some stuff that I was courious about and I was in for a big shock. The lantern I was carrying was heavy and I knew it, but it came in at 2.45 pounds!!!! I'm swapping for a flashlight/lantern this week thats 2.5oz's. Same goes for the 3oz stuff sack and many other things that were exremely heavy that I was carrying. The biggest one was my bag. I put it on the scale (5lb limit) and it maxed it out! Im just happy that Im realizing this stuff so I can start upgrading to smaller/lighter gear.