A-Hole Hikers in Hiawassee

[warren doyle]

A fact:
Whenever I hike without van support, which is at least half the time I spend hiking, I don't stay overnight in town or inside hostels.
And my stuff does not include alcohol, cigarettes, illegal drugs, towels and portable showers.

[Alligator]

Or only hike on the weekends and spend the weeks at work.

That's a good method except for the work part.

[Alligator]

A fact:
Whenever I hike without van support, which is at least half the time I spend hiking, I don't stay overnight in town or inside hostels.
And my stuff does not include alcohol, cigarettes, illegal drugs, towels and portable showers.

But you've got to admit, it's nice to have someone at the trailhead with a new supply of Little Debbies.

And if someone was smoking in your non-smoking van, you'd be pissed too.

[warren doyle]

"And if someone was smoking in your non-smoking van, you'd be pissed too."

In the seven expeditions I've organized (approximately 90 people), we have had no smokers mainly because the purpose and task of the expedition would not draw people who have the need to smoke.

[Alligator]

"And if someone was smoking in your non-smoking van, you'd be pissed too."

In the seven expeditions I've organized (approximately 90 people), we have had no smokers mainly because the purpose and task of the expedition would not draw people who have the need to smoke.

Then it's fairly obvious you'd be pissed. Way to duck the statement.

[Appalachian Tater]

I hope somebody's writing all this down.

[DesertMTB]

[quote=warren doyle;591270In the seven expeditions I've organized (approximately 90 people), we have had no smokers mainly because the purpose and task of the expedition would not draw people who have the need to smoke.[/quote]


BS. Some of the strongest hikers out there smoke.

[Sly]

BS. Some of the strongest hikers out there smoke.

10,000 miles and counting (not really, but I can add). Cough, cough.

[emerald]

But you've got to admit, it's nice to have someone at the trailhead with a new supply of Little Debbies.

I'd much rather hear of hikers sending support vehicle drivers to fetch Little Debbies than listen to someone whine because someone offerred them Tastykakes on the AT pulled out of a hat.

[Freeleo]

BS. Some of the strongest hikers out there smoke.

and isnt the 101 year old man running the marathon a smoker and drinker...jsut sayin

[A-Train]

I'm sure those of you who do nice things for hikers and spend your money on them are dissapointed by the recent events this year, showing that several people are ungrateful of the magic bestowed. It can be frustrating. You want to "give back" to what you've received and allow others to feel the magic you did out there.

But, is it really worth it to keep enabling folks who can't handle their priveledge? These are mostly middle to upper class people who are carrying over a thousand bucks in gear on them. Maybe it's time to start putting charity into more worthwhile causes.

Just sayin'.

(That being said, I'll still probably drop a bunch of cash on magic out west in 2 weeks)

[Sly]

(That being said, I'll still probably drop a bunch of cash on magic out west in 2 weeks)

Maybe I can adjust my "schedule".

[Frosty]

Some of the strongest hikers out there smoke.

There are hikers out there who smoke, true, but I never heard that smoking made you a stronger hiker. I've read that your aerobic strength is better if you do not smoke, and if you do smoke, stopping will actually improve you lung capacity. That seems to be validated by those lilke myself who quit smoking and found exercise to be easier. Try quitting for just a year and see if it makes a difference. You can always go back to smoking again if it doesn't.

[Appalachian Tater]

Smoking is bad for you.

[Frosty]

Smoking is bad for you.

My health and aerobic capacity certainly picked up when I stopped smoking. The only issue I have with quitting is that I was smoking a pack and a half a day at the time I quit. With all cigarettes I didn't buy over the last 25+ years. I should have a zillion dollars in the bank. I don't

[CrumbSnatcher]

i was never in hiawassee!

[10-K]

No. It's because they keep surrendering to the caretaker on Springer.

Classic!

[Sly]

My health and aerobic capacity certainly picked up when I stopped smoking. The only issue I have with quitting is that I was smoking a pack and a half a day at the time I quit. With all cigarettes I didn't buy over the last 25+ years. I should have a zillion dollars in the bank. I don't

I may try to quit again this year since I'll be on the west coast and butts cost about $5 or more per pack. I'll nearly be able to hike for free!

[Jack Tarlin]

Final footnote to Post #412 above:

The folks in question talked to Ron Haven, apologized, and everything's totally cool.

These are perfectly good kids, everybody makes a mistake, all they were trying to do was help out some Trail friends.

Can't begin to tell you people what a cool guy Ronnie Haven is......very sorry to be leaving Franklin tomorrow, and not merely cuz there's snow on the way!!

[Ron Haven]

Final footnote to Post #412 above:

The folks in question talked to Ron Haven, apologized, and everything's totally cool.

These are perfectly good kids, everybody makes a mistake, all they were trying to do was help out some Trail friends.

Can't begin to tell you people what a cool guy Ronnie Haven is......very sorry to be leaving Franklin tomorrow, and not merely cuz there's snow on the way!!

PS,I got to hike a little bit with Jack today and we dug ramps yesterday.