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    Quote Originally Posted by sofaking View Post
    explain to me how you legally carry on the trail.
    get a CCW permit

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    show me where a state issued ccw gives you the right to carry on park service controlled lands. or that you can carry wherever you want, just because you have a permit. in va, for example, you can't enter any establishment that serves alcohol if your carrying...feel free to post links with any information that you have to prove me wrong, i'd like to get this as clear as possible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofaking View Post
    show me where a state issued ccw gives you the right to carry on park service controlled lands. or that you can carry wherever you want, just because you have a permit. in va, for example, you can't enter any establishment that serves alcohol if your carrying...feel free to post links with any information that you have to prove me wrong, i'd like to get this as clear as possible...
    I just sent you a link, maybe you should read it

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    Quote Originally Posted by taildragger View Post
    The way that I understand it is that it is legal to carry firearms in certain sections of the trail.

    From www.appalachiantrail.org

    "ATC strongly discourages hikers from carrying firearms. In areas of the Trail corridor where hunting is legal, hikers may see hunters carrying firearms. On National Park Service lands outside national recreation areas, possession of firearms by private citizens is illegal. The prohibition applies on many other public lands as well. Where firearms are allowed, state laws on licenses, registration, and related matters govern."
    you're allowed to carry guns to hunt THROUGH parts of the trail here in md, but they can't be loaded and it's only to access the hunting lands around the trail. none of which still has anything to do with hikers packing heat.

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    Is there a moderator in the house????????????????????????????????

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    http://www.aldha.org/companyn/intro07.pdf

    Still states that there are parts that its legal to carry a firearm

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    Alright, I'm done, sorry for the thread drift.

    So, is this only at the shelters themselves or are the stealth campers getting hit at all?

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    i see nowhere in any link you've posted where it says it's okay for a hiker to carry concealed. there is mention of hunters, in certain areas. you need to re-read all of your supporting evidence and find anything that permits you to carry while hiking the trail, also, if you're so convinced that it's okay to carry on certain parts, explain to me how you transport your gun around the parts where there is no confusion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofaking View Post
    just wait for a hiker carrying a concealed weapon to take matters into their own hands...the general consensus among the gun carrying population seems to be that law enforcement(of any kind) can't be relied upon to 'protect the population from the big scary world' and that it's their 'right' to preempt the law and to dispense 'cowboy justice' as they see fit. there won't be too many problem animals left in gsmnp...at least not 4 legged ones.
    You can't be that stupid. "Take matters into their own hands",? Some of us call that DEFENDING ourselfs. If one of the two he killed in 1981 had a gun this guy wouldn't be around to "try" it again nor would we have paid 50k per year times 15 to keep him up and healthy so he could do it again. Theres just no nice word for stupid I'll tell ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudDuck View Post
    You can't be that stupid. "Take matters into their own hands",? Some of us call that DEFENDING ourselfs. If one of the two he killed in 1981 had a gun this guy wouldn't be around to "try" it again nor would we have paid 50k per year times 15 to keep him up and healthy so he could do it again. Theres just no nice word for stupid I'll tell ya.
    defending 'OURSELVES'- sometimes there's no nice way of pointing out stupid, i'll tell you.

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    "Rely on LEO's out in the wild? I guess they'll take the same road up trail the Ambulance will to the where you fell and busted your leg. Go ahead and call 911 and tell them you heard a "strange noise" outside the shelter vs hearing a strange noise outside your back door. Hmmm

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    Are there any moderators on this thread? The obsessive gun lovers have once again taken over an original thread which had no mention of guns, just about bears and relocation of bears, etc. The testosterone thrill of handling a gun hypnotizes these post responders to threads concerning outdoor threats and so they spew forth their constant 'what-ifs' couched in 'personal security and defense' but yawn it grows tiresome and off-point. Way off-point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudDuck View Post
    "Rely on LEO's out in the wild? I guess they'll take the same road up trail the Ambulance will to the where you fell and busted your leg. Go ahead and call 911 and tell them you heard a "strange noise" outside the shelter vs hearing a strange noise outside your back door. Hmmm
    they just went a got some lard-a$$ last week because he was tired...i'm guessing your idea of 'wilderness' is somewhat smaller than mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofaking View Post
    defending 'OURSELVES'- sometimes there's no nice way of pointing out stupid, i'll tell you.
    Not necessarily, I think you are doing a fine job without our help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofaking View Post
    defending 'OURSELVES'- sometimes there's no nice way of pointing out stupid, (?) i'll (?) tell you.
    That makes your point? Thats all you got?
    I don't think anyone or everyone should carry a weapon and no the "gun lovers" haven't taken over the thread. Don't remark "against" them and then cry foul when someone comes back "for". I'm not wasting anymore time on someone arguing "their" agenda point of view vs a factual situation. No mods needed on my account. Just don't flame someone the minute they mention "gun".

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    i'm glad you're feeling better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofaking View Post
    i see nowhere in any link you've posted where it says it's okay for a hiker to carry concealed. there is mention of hunters, in certain areas. you need to re-read all of your supporting evidence and find anything that permits you to carry while hiking the trail, also, if you're so convinced that it's okay to carry on certain parts, explain to me how you transport your gun around the parts where there is no confusion...
    you're not supposed to carry concealed pot or other drugs but lotsa hikers do

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    I love my gun, I often sleep with it under my pillow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wolf View Post
    you're not supposed to carry concealed pot or other drugs but lotsa hikers do
    yeah, hippies will do that...but they're pretty easy to ignore. except when they get together in groups, then those stupid bongos appear and it smells like a rainbow gathering...

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    I also believe it is illegal to litter in a national forest.......where was the LEO that you are depending on to protect you when this jerk emptied his trash bag behind I log I sat down on last week? If we are to expect LE to protect us in the backcountry we should also expect them to be there to cite that jerk should we not?

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