Cold On The At

[slow]

Is so overrated it's not funny.A -10 WM BAG that is dry and your change in camp will keep you safe in a nobo...even DEC.

[Egads]

Don't get your point.

[Frosty]

Is so overrated it's not funny.A -10 WM BAG that is dry and your change in camp will keep you safe in a nobo...even DEC.

Two-three years ago in early March I was shivering in my -25* bag just off N. Kinsman.

Anyway, it isn't sleeping in the cold that's the worst, it's doing camp chores like cooking, eating, going to the bathroom, etc.

[bigcranky]

Anyway, it isn't sleeping in the cold that's the worst, it's doing camp chores like cooking, eating, going to the bathroom, etc.

I dunno Frosty, lying in the bag shivering at midnight, knowing it's only going to get colder, is pretty bad. All kinds of unwelcome thoughts start to intrude. ("Who's idea was this?" and "Maybe they'll find my body before spring" are two.)

But, yeah, camp chores in really cold weather suck, too.

Who's idea was this?

[slow]

IF you cant live in a -10 bag and due work,eat,drink on the AT ...WELL.?

[slow]

Two-three years ago in early March I was shivering in my -25* bag just off N. Kinsman.

Anyway, it isn't sleeping in the cold that's the worst, it's doing camp chores like cooking, eating, going to the bathroom, etc.

Did you shiver in a WM PUMA?

[thestin]

Kind of hard to crawl in a sleeping bag when you're in the pouring rain, it's in the 30s, the wind is howling and you're not in an area to set up camp to get out of the weather.

[KG4FAM]

IF you cant live in a -10 bag and due work,eat,drink on the AT ...WELL.?

Its kind of hard to take a dump inside your sleeping bag. Maybe they should start making bags with a back flap.

[slow]

Kind of hard to crawl in a sleeping bag when you're in the pouring rain, it's in the 30s, the wind is howling and you're not in an area to set up camp to get out of the weather.

But YOU made the call to walk...or..sit.

[slow]

Its kind of hard to take a dump inside your sleeping bag. Maybe they should start making bags with a back flap.

With just rain gear inside ...you can go 5days easy...no food or water.

[smokymtnsteve]

Its kind of hard to take a dump inside your sleeping bag. Maybe they should start making bags with a back flap.

it wouldn't be hard to take a dump in your sleeping bag..the aftermath could be undesireable..

but I routinely use an outhouse at -40 F so what is the big deal?

[slow]

-40 a puma with proper under is easy with a good tent.

[Tipi Walter]

Is so overrated it's not funny.A -10 WM BAG that is dry and your change in camp will keep you safe in a nobo...even DEC.

IF you cant live in a -10 bag and due work,eat,drink on the AT ...WELL.?

Did you shiver in a WM PUMA?

But YOU made the call to walk...or..sit.

With just rain gear inside ...you can go 5days easy...no food or water.

-40 a puma with proper under is easy with a good tent.

Man, it must be too early in the morning for me to put some sense into this thread. It sounds like Phil Hendrie interviewing Bud Dickman.

If I understand your question(and I don't), I'd say a WM Puma will, with the proper "under", keep you warm in all conditions. How do I know? Cuz I replaced my old Marmot Couloir zero bag with a Puma last year just to stay warm in 10 degrees and below. The Marmot stopped working at around 10 degrees and anything near zero was a struggle. The Puma of course is a furnace and the microfiber is light years ahead of the Marmot's shell.

[Frosty]

Man, it must be too early in the morning for me to put some sense into this thread.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Sounds like a guy from Florida who never winter camped wondering what the big deal is.

Anyone who has tried it would not be talking like backpacking on the Norhtern New England AT in the winter is not a big deal as long as you have a -10* bag.

[dessertrat]

Kind of hard to crawl in a sleeping bag when you're in the pouring rain, it's in the 30s, the wind is howling and you're not in an area to set up camp to get out of the weather.

That's why everyone should carry a bivy bag or "survival bag" when it's cold enough to make hypothermia a real risk.

[IceAge]

Is so overrated it's not funny.A -10 WM BAG that is dry and your change in camp will keep you safe in a nobo...even DEC.

Ok, I went and bought the -10 WM bag, now I just need to know how much change to have in camp. Is 80 cents enough? Does it matter how many nickels there are?

[WAYSEEKER]

I have no clue on the subject of the thread..... Is it just me ?

[Gray Blazer]

Ok, I went and bought the -10 WM bag, now I just need to know how much change to have in camp. Is 80 cents enough? Does it matter how many nickels there are?

Change is good.

[Frosty]

Change is good.

Be the change you want to see in the world.
- Mahatma Gandhi

[KG4FAM]

Ok, I went and bought the -10 WM bag, now I just need to know how much change to have in camp. Is 80 cents enough? Does it matter how many nickels there are?

Does anybody got a dime? Somebody's got to go back and get a ****load of dimes.