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    Be constructive not destructive folks, no need for the name-calling.
    "Sleepy alligator in the noonday sun
    Sleepin by the river just like he usually done
    Call for his whisky
    He can call for his tea
    Call all he wanta but he can't call me..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by TD55 View Post
    Sorry, I forgot strobe light, barking dog and lots of batteries.
    I used to actually carry small strobe lights that were left overs from ShandsCair's (a local aeromedical helo) LZ kits. They weighed like 3/4 pound a piece and I even had my kids carry them "in case". I think we had spare D cell batteries as well. Those were the days, nothing like an 80 pound pack to enjoy a hiking trip.
    “He is richest who is content with the least, for content is the wealth of nature.” –Socrates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engine View Post
    I used to actually carry small strobe lights that were left overs from ShandsCair's (a local aeromedical helo) LZ kits. They weighed like 3/4 pound a piece and I even had my kids carry them "in case". I think we had spare D cell batteries as well. Those were the days, nothing like an 80 pound pack to enjoy a hiking trip.
    Was this back in the Disco days?
    I love the smell of esbit in the morning!

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    We used to carry an 8-track and lots of batteries.
    "Sleepy alligator in the noonday sun
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    Call for his whisky
    He can call for his tea
    Call all he wanta but he can't call me..."
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    Lighting up a big White Birch makes a very good signal fire. Something the old timers used to do, but I always wondered if they ever got out of control. I imagine they did from time to time. A good trick to keep in mind though. Also, if ever you do **** up, don't be too shy. Get your ass found.

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    If I remember right, the 8-track player took 4 six-volts.
    "Sleepy alligator in the noonday sun
    Sleepin by the river just like he usually done
    Call for his whisky
    He can call for his tea
    Call all he wanta but he can't call me..."
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    Should'a hiked with a dog.

    Lassie used to rescue her owners all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alligator View Post
    If I remember right, the 8-track player took 4 six-volts.
    Unless you were one of the blessed few that had one in your Gremlin. . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lugnut View Post
    Was this back in the Disco days?
    Not long after...more like big hair band time.

    My last post on this thread, I promise.

    Ken, I'm glad you are okay!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engine View Post
    I used to actually carry small strobe lights that were left overs from ShandsCair's (a local aeromedical helo) LZ kits. They weighed like 3/4 pound a piece and I even had my kids carry them "in case". I think we had spare D cell batteries as well. Those were the days, nothing like an 80 pound pack to enjoy a hiking trip.
    I found a cool kid's toy recently. It's an LED glow light, like a glow stick. It glows, has a separate flashlight, it strobes, and the one downer is it has a whistle on the end (+/-). It was $5 at Dicks Sporting Goods. (That's actually where I found it, don't anyone read into it.)
    "Sleepy alligator in the noonday sun
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    Call for his whisky
    He can call for his tea
    Call all he wanta but he can't call me..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoidfu View Post
    Jerk doesn't know limitations,
    jerk is an ******* to friends who are trying to prevent exactly what happens to jerk,
    jerk sets wildfire out of desperation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alligator View Post
    Be constructive not destructive folks, no need for the name-calling.
    i guess we all need a kindergarden reminder from time to time, thanks gator
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    THREE CHEERS FOR KEN


    FREEDOMS JUST ANOTHER WORD
    NOTHING LEFT TO LOOSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alligator View Post
    it has a whistle on the end (+/-). It was $5 at Dicks Sporting Goods. (That's actually where I found it, don't anyone read into it.)
    Oh, we won't.
    I love the smell of esbit in the morning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lugnut View Post
    Oh, we won't.
    They sell Platypus 2L Hosers there also for $10.
    "Sleepy alligator in the noonday sun
    Sleepin by the river just like he usually done
    Call for his whisky
    He can call for his tea
    Call all he wanta but he can't call me..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaiter View Post
    i guess we all need a kindergarden reminder from time to time, thanks gator
    Like I keep sayin, its the same lot everytime!

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    The drift here turned into a complete overhaul here. Now we've combined "Ken Missing on AT" with "Guns on the trail" with "Newbie Hiking Blunders"

    I know someone else has carried one of those steel fire grates that opens and is hinged together....fits so well on the back of your pack...left it at a shelter. 60 lbs to 59 1/2

    Guns are heavy. But you can start a signal fire with one.

    If they try and charge you with arson Ken...just tell them Survivorman taught you how to do it. And if that doesn't work...blame rap music

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siler View Post
    I encourage everyone to think “how does this apply to me? And what can I do better as a result of this shared experience?” We can all do some reflecting upon what it means to be a hike leader, a group participant, and a member of the hiking community.

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    I hope you and other hike leaders will limit the number of hikers in your groups.

    Leading 12 or more hikers into a section just brings a dozen or more different problems onto the scene. They can over load shelters and campsites, over burden resources, and compound user errors. All of these problems caused by having too large a group can limit the leaders effectiveness at solving issues and keeping consensus among participants.

    The trail can be crowded during hiking season and adding more than 5-6 hikers in a group is enough to over burden popular AT sections. I take hikers out on the trail, but only in small numbers like 3-4. Everyone get's along and is like minded at making decisions which virtually equals zero hike ending user errors.

    Do you charge money to lead groups onto the AT?
    All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
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    We should be able to discuss this situation and learn from it. I'm not insensitive to visual impairment; retinitus pigmentosa is a hereditary eye disease that runs in my family. My father is legally blind. He started losing his sight in his 50's and he's 84 now and can barely see. Two of my sisters have it, and many of my close relatives, some of whom have gone totally blind.

    I hope Ken will post here, but since he's an editor of a publication that might be doubtful.

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    I think it's time for the ATC to require hikers to hire a Caddy / Sherpa / Escort. It's a new jobs program.

    Imagine not having to carry gear anymore, or having insight on the difficulty and perils of the next section you will hike, and having assurance you won't get lost.
    The trail was here before we arrived, and it will still be here when we are gone...enjoy it now, and preserve it for others that come after us

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    Quote Originally Posted by vamelungeon View Post
    I hope Ken will post here, but since he's an editor of a publication that might be doubtful.
    Just what we need, another angry whiteblazer! If he knows better, he wont jump on a website with a bunch of cyber-hikers and packsniffers

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