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    Default Loaded guns allowed in national parks under bill

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Democratic-controlled Congress is moving to restore a Bush administration policy that allowed loaded guns in national parks.


    The Senate voted Tuesday to allow guns in national parks and wildlife refuges, and the House could follow suit as soon as Wednesday.


    The measure is included in a popular bill imposing new restrictions on credit card companies. Democratic leaders have said they hope to send a final version to the White House for the president's signature by week's end


    The Senate vote is a stark reversal from what many gun-control advocates expected when a federal judge blocked the Bush policy in March. The Obama administration accepted the ruling, saying that the Interior Department would conduct a full environmental review.



    The review is expected to take several months at least. In the meantime, restrictions that had been in place since the Reagan administration remain in effect. The rules severely restrict guns in the national parks, generally requiring them to be locked or stored.


    That timetable changed quickly last week after Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn inserted an amendment to the credit bard that would allow concealed, loaded guns in parks and refuges.


    To the surprise of many, the amendment easily passed, winning support from 67 senators - including 27 Democrats. Among those who voted "yes" was Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who had blocked Coburn's amendment from coming to the Senate floor for more than a year. Seven other Western Democrats voted with Reid to support the Republican senator's amendment, which allows a range of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges as long as they are allowed by federal, state and local law.


    Spokesman Jim Manley said Reid is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, adding that the guns in parks issue was a major concern for many Nevadans.


    "The rules that apply to our federal lands are felt acutely in Nevada, where 87 percent of the state's land is managed by federal agencies," Manley said.
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    though it looks like your name must be bill and it must be under you.
    up over the hills, theres nothing to fear
    theres a pub across the way with whisky and beer
    its a lengthy journey on the way up to the top
    but it ain't so bad if you have a great big bottle o'scotch

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    Well I am truly surprised and happy to see that the 2nd amendment is being up held.

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    So here's a fun game: how many posts before this thread devolves into a discussion of gun rights?

    I bet 3 more after this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halibut15 View Post
    So here's a fun game: how many posts before this thread devolves into a discussion of gun rights?

    I bet 3 more after this.
    I will take that bet and raise you that it will get shut down before the 50th post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halibut15 View Post
    So here's a fun game: how many posts before this thread devolves into a discussion of gun rights?

    I bet 3 more after this.
    I think that it's my right to carry a firearm in a national park!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by halibut15 View Post
    So here's a fun game: how many posts before this thread devolves into a discussion of gun rights?

    I bet 3 more after this.

    Im the 3rd ONE more and you loose...

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    I have always carried a pistol when hiking...have never fired it in 8 years. But feels
    good to have it, just in case.

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    gun's are great!

    I wish my state was like Tenessee and allowed me:

    1) to carry
    2) and to do so in state and local parks to go along with the now legal federal ones.

    http://www.wrcbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10384168

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    A little discounting before the brat crowd starts posting.

    "An immature, irresponsible, irrational man or woman should never be allowed to touch, much less carry any type of weapon anywhere."
    First things first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowhoe View Post
    I will take that bet and raise you that it will get shut down before the 50th post.
    Umm, it is the Second Amendment. It's not politics, it's Constitutional Law. And thank goodness for the First Amendment, so we can post here and wear teabags if we want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rifleman View Post
    A little discounting before the brat crowd starts posting.

    "An immature, irresponsible, irrational man or woman should never be allowed to touch, much less carry any type of weapon anywhere."
    But I'm sometimes all of those...darn it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rifleman View Post
    A little discounting before the brat crowd starts posting.

    "An immature, irresponsible, irrational man or woman should never be allowed to touch, much less carry any type of weapon anywhere."

    I think I originally said that. If it makes me a brat. I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homer&Marje View Post
    I think I originally said that. If it makes me a brat. I don't know.
    You aint never gonna learn

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    Hahahhaha. I can one up that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMEFcYij2uY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homer&Marje View Post
    Hahahhaha. I can one up that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMEFcYij2uY
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    I tried to post but one of the mod's must have disliked what I said and deleted it. Oh well, I guess you have to be politically correct on WB. Doesn't matter that you are a donating member, not a registered member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanati View Post

    I tried to post but one of the mod's must have disliked what I said and deleted it. Oh well, I guess you have to be politically correct on WB. Doesn't matter that you are a donating member, not a registered member.
    It sure doesn't, I've had a few of mine disappear on occasion. In defense of the moderators, a few of mine probably needed to go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engine View Post
    It sure doesn't, I've had a few of mine disappear on occasion. In defense of the moderators, a few of mine probably needed to go away.
    I will second amendment that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanati View Post

    I tried to post but one of the mod's must have disliked what I said and deleted it. Oh well, I guess you have to be politically correct on WB. Doesn't matter that you are a donating member, not a registered member.
    Having read the post that was deleted, it's obvious that you don't think that rules/laws apply to you. Get over it.
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