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    Hope the eruptions are mellow and not much ash accumulates. Just checked out CNN.com and found it blew steam/ash this afternoon. What is the geography up there like anyway? Does anyone actually live near the area?

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    I just love volcanos, they product so much CO2 and there is nothing the stupid kyoto treaty can do about it.

    something like 90+% of CO2 producted each year is "natural". I'm sure someone will want to fine the countries with the most active volcanos in hopes they figure out some means to put a "scrubber" on one.
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    Isn't yellow stone due to go "soon". I believe it is the most active super volcano on the planet.
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    Now I don't know
    I don't know
    I don't know where I'm a gonna go
    When the volcano blow


    Ground she's movin' under me
    Tidal waves out on the sea
    Sulphur smoke up in the sky
    Pretty soon we learn to fly

    Chorus:
    Let me hear ya now I don't know
    I don't know
    I don't know where I'm a gonna go
    When the volcano blow

    Now my girl quickly say to me
    Mon you better watch your feet
    Lava come down soft and hot
    You better lava me now or lava me not

    Chorus:
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    I don't know
    I don't know where I'm a gonna go
    When the volcano blow

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    No time to count what I'm worth
    'Cause I just left the planet earth
    Where I go I hope there's rum
    Not to worry mon soon come

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    One more now I don't know (ah he don't know)
    I don't know (he don't know, mon)
    I don't know where I'm a gonna go
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    But I don't want to land in New York City
    Don't want to land in Mexico (no no no)
    Don't want to land on no Three Mile Island
    Don't want to see my skin aglow (no no no)

    Don't want to land in Commanche Sky park
    Or in Nashville, Tennessee (no no no)
    Don't want to land in no San Juan airport
    Or the Yukon Territory (no no no)

    Don't want to land no San Diego
    Don't want to land in no Buzzards Bay (no no no)
    Don't want to land on no Ayotollah
    I got nothing more to say

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    I don't know
    I don't know where I'm a gonna go
    When the volcano blow

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    Just a one more, I don't know (he don't know)
    I don't know (I don't know, man)
    I don't know where I'm a gonna go
    When the volcano blow
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlbj6142
    I just love volcanos, they product so much CO2 and there is nothing the stupid kyoto treaty can do about it.
    The Kyoto Treaty addresses anthropogenic (man made) carbon dioxide. Maybe you should Google it and see for yourself, it may change your opinion or at least the basis for such.

    Of St Helens, I hope whatever happens gives the scientists a better understanding of volcanos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pencil Pusher
    The Kyoto Treaty addresses anthropogenic (man made) carbon dioxide.
    That was my point. Nothing the treaty can do about it. It is actaully quite funny.
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    Yep, a real kneeslapper!

    Volcanoes kill people episodically. Smog does it every day. Why can't nature keep up with humans?

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    I always thought Smog (aka "Bad Ozone") was caused by Nitrogen mixed with other yucky stuff in the emissions. Not, CO2.

    CO2 is just tied to global warming.
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    I think the point is that the amount of CO2 humans produce is insignificant to what nature does. The amount of CO2 needed for global warming can't be produced by humans. The treaty does try to reduce CO2 can't get nature to sign on.

    Global warming has been hapening since the last Ice Age ended. It ain't nothing new. I wonder if Cro Magnon man tried to get a treaty with felow tribes to reduce fire burning at the end of the last ice age because he thought he was the cause of the global warming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGT Rock
    I think the point is that the amount of CO2 humans produce is insignificant to what nature does. The amount of CO2 needed for global warming can't be produced by humans. The treaty does try to reduce CO2 can't get nature to sign on.
    maybe some of us disagree more than we think?
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    If Mount Saint Hellens gets interesting, I might try to head up there for Columbus Day weekend.

    A bank account that only earns 5% interest will double in value if you give it enough time. The Mauna Loa, Hawaii co2 graph shows quite an impressive trend.

    As far as volcanoes versus humans, see what the USGS has to say about it:

    http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/Hazards/Wh...as/volgas.html

    Comparison of CO2 emissions from volcanoes vs. human activities.

    Scientists have calculated that volcanoes emit between about 130-230 million tonnes (145-255 million tons) of CO2 into the atmosphere every year (Gerlach, 1999, 1992). This estimate includes both subaerial and submarine volcanoes, about in equal amounts. Emissions of CO2 by human activities, including fossil fuel burning, cement production, and gas flaring, amount to about 22 billion tonnes per year (24 billion tons). Human activities release more than 150 times the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes--the equivalent of nearly 17,000 additional volcanoes like Kilauea (Kilauea emits about 13.2 million tonnes/year)!

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    For anyone interested in the actual eruption, this link gets you to the cam of the volcano.

    http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/

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    I live about 100 miles or so from St. Helens. No one seems to care much around here, although a lot of people went down last weekend to see the steam. I went to the Olympics to go climbing, and came back to find an erruption imminent. No one is predicting disaster, but my winter climb of St. Helens is appparently going to be derailed by the forest service. Maybe we can pass a treaty that says people can get onto their lands, even if it might kill them. Then, all of you can debate its merits or demerits, and whether or not more hiking takes place because of nature or nuturing.

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