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    Default Majorly disappointed with alcohol stove

    Last week when I did my hammocking trip on the FT another thing I did was carry my esbit gram cracker stove and caldera cone and a "popular alcohol stove" so I could compare them.

    There was no wind but I still used a windscreen and the alcohol stove took 2 oz's of alcohol and around 9 minutes to boil 2 cups of water.

    The esbit/caldera combo boiled 2 cups of water in just a little over 4 minutes.

    Granted, the caldera cone setup is pretty efficient but as that was my first experience with alcohol it'll probably be my last. Too slow and uses too much fuel.
    Last edited by 10-K; 03-10-2010 at 16:23. Reason: edited to add: Fuel was denatured alcohol purchased from hardware store

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    Sorry it didn't work out for ya. But glad you figured it out before you were out in the woods for weeks with it being your only way to cook.

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    The Caldera Cone/SP 1.4L fitted combo I had boiled 2 cups in a little over 3 minutes using denatured alcohol. I used about 20ml to start and had some left when I finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayBan View Post
    The Caldera Cone/SP 1.4L fitted combo I had boiled 2 cups in a little over 3 minutes using denatured alcohol. I used about 20ml to start and had some left when I finished.
    We'll see... we'll see..

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    Did you ever wonder why "majorly" is more emphatic than "generally"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmac_in View Post
    Did you ever wonder why "majorly" is more emphatic than "generally"?

    I could have said, "Alcohol stoves are gay." but I didn't.
    Last edited by 10-K; 03-10-2010 at 16:35. Reason: "Gay" as in the way kids are using it now.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10-K View Post
    I could have said, "Alcohol stoves are gay." but I didn't.

    As in alcohol stoves are happy or as in alcohol stoves that like similarly built other alcohol stoves?
    Love people and use things; never the reverse.

    Mt. Katahdin would be a lot quicker to climb if its darn access trail didn't start all the way down in Georgia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmac_in View Post
    Did you ever wonder why "majorly" is more emphatic than "generally"?
    I use "admirally" myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmac_in View Post
    Did you ever wonder why "majorly" is more emphatic than "generally"?
    I have wondered that...but "privately".
    Love people and use things; never the reverse.

    Mt. Katahdin would be a lot quicker to climb if its darn access trail didn't start all the way down in Georgia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissful View Post
    Pocket rocket rocks!
    I agree! I LOVE my Pocket Rocket! Turn it on, boil water for coffee and oatmeal, turn it off. Turn it back on to reheat my cup of coffee it it's getting cold too fast......so fast and easy. Just a flick of a bic...........
    "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."

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    I agree! I LOVE my Pocket Rocket! Turn it on, boil water for coffee and oatmeal, turn it off. Turn it back on to reheat my cup of coffee it it's getting cold too fast......so fast and easy. Just a flick of a bic...........
    So.......so........American!
    The hiker has the option to be utilitarian or "cool".
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    Esbit: Summer "Stoopitlite" trips (short duration - for masochists only).
    They all have their place.
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    I can usually boil 2 cups of water using my minibull bongo in 3 season conditions in about 5-6 minutes using less than an ounce.

    Winter it is about 8 minutes and using about an ounce maybe a bit more.

    What alcohol stove did you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raul Perez View Post
    I can usually boil 2 cups of water using my minibull bongo in 3 season conditions in about 5-6 minutes using less than an ounce.

    Winter it is about 8 minutes and using about an ounce maybe a bit more.

    What alcohol stove did you use?
    The Bud Light alum-in-em bottle stove. It was ~50* I would guess.

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    I don't know what you used, but imagine if your first car was a Toyota and ran you into a wall, would you infer all cars do that?

    Just sayin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGT Rock View Post
    I don't know what you used, but imagine if your first car was a Toyota and ran you into a wall, would you infer all cars do that?

    Just sayin.
    Say, that's a pretty good point Sarge...

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    Esbit is good too, but expensive. There is supposed to be a stove that goes with a Caldera cone which I've watched do a great job. Find out what that one is and try it with your cone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGT Rock View Post
    Esbit is good too, but expensive. There is supposed to be a stove that goes with a Caldera cone which I've watched do a great job. Find out what that one is and try it with your cone.
    My Caldera Cone System for Snow Peak Trek 700 came with a 12-10 Alcohol Stove which they say is tuned specifically for use with the Caldera Cone.
    Purchased from Anti Gravity Gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGT Rock View Post
    Esbit is good too, but expensive. There is supposed to be a stove that goes with a Caldera cone which I've watched do a great job. Find out what that one is and try it with your cone.
    Huh? $5 I must be missing something here.

    http://www.rei.com/product/653344

    10-K did you do any practice at home in the kitchen? and did you use a heat bottle of alcohol? sounds like you got the wrong stuff.
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