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    Default BPL Cocoon Insulated Hoody

    Does anyone have experience with this jacket? I'm considering getting it instead of the Patagonia Nanopuff pullover. Its the same weight, but I'm just wondering how well it compresses. I'm starting a late Feb thru-hike so I think a hoody would be a better choice. And what is CLO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luddite View Post
    And what is CLO?
    1 CLO equals the warmth provided by a men's business suit.

    Also, 1 R-value = 1.137 CLO
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    I only have the pants, but I like them a lot.

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    I have had the hoody and pants for several years and really like them. They are not quite as compressible as down, but they provide a lightweight insulating layer.
    Backpacking light, feels so right.

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    I have the previous generation hoody. I LOVE it. My favorite piece of gear and I even use it as part of my sleep system with a quilt.

    NOT for bushwacking....; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luddite View Post
    Does anyone have experience with this jacket? I'm considering getting it instead of the Patagonia Nanopuff pullover. Its the same weight, but I'm just wondering how well it compresses. I'm starting a late Feb thru-hike so I think a hoody would be a better choice. And what is CLO?

    http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-...oon_hoody.html
    I know this is not the best comparison but I have the Patagonia Nanopuff pullover (not very warm to me) and the BPL Cocoon Insulated pants, which I find to be surprisingly warm for their weight. I have been considering getting a BPL Cocoon Insulated Hoody to replace my Nanopuff but cannot afford it right now. I love the feel of the Nanopuff but simply don't find that it gives me much warmth.

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    For a late Feb. start you might want a warmer puffy jacket than these, especially for sitting around in camp after dark. People with more experience in Southern mountain winters may chime in here. You could look for posts by TipiWalter for the opinions of someone with LOTS of winter experience down there.

    The insulations in the BPL coccoon and Patagonia nanopuff are similar. The Coccoon has 68 gram/square meter and the nanopuff 60g/sq m., so the Coccoon should be slightly warmer. I like the idea of a hooded pullover, but you can get the nanopuff a lot cheaper.
    The Patagonia Nanopuff is on sale for $97.50. http://www.landfallnavigation.com/patagonia84020.html
    Because of this sale, I thought of getting something like the nanopuff. My tentative conclusion is that it is not enough of a gain over using a medium weight fleece jacket. These insulated puffy jackets are lighter and more compressible than fleece.

    For people that can sew, the kits at http://thru-hiker.com/kits/, especially the Kinsman and Kennebec pullovers are comparable and cheaper.

    Two links at BPL that discuss insulation, especially the posts by Richard Nisley:
    http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-...e_pagination=1
    http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-...hread_id=18950

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    Really like mine. Once I got and tried it, sold my NanoPuff. Significantly warmer than NanoPuff without a weight penalty. Only down would be warmer for weight IMO.
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    FYI...the BPL Cocoon insulated hoody is currently undergoing a 'gamblers sale", i.e., the price drops 10% each day until its out of stock (or something close to that). The Cocoon pants are doing the same.

    I just picked up one for $124.99 (non-member price). It'll be cheaper tomorrow if they're still around...

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    Quote Originally Posted by couscous View Post
    I have had the hoody and pants for several years and really like them. They are not quite as compressible as down, but they provide a lightweight insulating layer.
    Couscous is right again. Very compressible for synthetic. Lighter and warmer than MicroPuff IMO.
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    Oh, and definitely warmer than NanoPuff. No pockets, but can deal with that.
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